France 2012: the official thread

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

I doubt that someone like Le Pen would ever be able to get anywhere near 23% in the US...

uhm... George Wallace carried the entire south,.....

Not the entire south, only 4 States plus he only got 14% of the vote while doing so.  He might have gotten 23% or more in 1968 if we had a two round system like France, but we don't have such a system and it isn't 1968.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Retaliation is a sin .

See, life is much easier when you aren't a christian.

But the afterlife is not. 0:)

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Imagining that he could flee is just ridiculous.

Sure...

He has money, he can flee if he wants.
Some people just don't want to go in jail.

It would make him definitely guilty and as popular as Hitler - yes, in France too. If he wants a future, he has no choice but staying.

If he is guilty, then he has no future anyway, but fleeing back to France could keep him out of jail.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Imagining that he could flee is just ridiculous.

Sure...

He has money, he can flee if he wants.
Some people just don't want to go in jail.

It would make him definitely guilty and as popular as Hitler - yes, in France too. If he wants a future, he has no choice but staying.

If he is guilty, then he has no future anyway, but fleeing back to France could keep him out of jail.

True, but he probably would still face persecution over the other case?

Maybe, maybe not.  In any event, the other case does not seriously impact whether or not he DSK is a flight risk from New York.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

If he is guilty, then he has no future anyway, but fleeing back to France could keep him out of jail.

How? Can't he be extradited to the States?

I doubt he'd be any more extraditable than Polanski has been these past few decades, and he wasn't merely accused of a sex crime, he was convicted of it.  However if France wants to trade DSK for Polanski, I'd be willing to accept that deal.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Secondly, drugging and then anally raping a 14-year old girl didn't make Roman Polanski unpopular in France. Your government took him in and defended him vigorously. In fact, you're defending DSK right now.

Again, the two affairs have really nothing in common. To the points I've made earlier, let me add being an artist isn't the same thing as being a politician, and if Polanski ever ran for an office he wouldn't get half a vote.

Actually they have everything in common.  Once back in France, DSK would be no more extraditable than Polanski was.  That's the primary consideration here.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Are the polls just assuming DSK is washed up or are they actually polling for him and coming up with him having no support now?

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

The bail is accepted. Common sense has won, eventually.

That he had time to make arrangements for living in NY under house detention and given up his IMF post (along with any possible use of a diplomatic passport) likely helped.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Well let's check the record; the reunified Italy actually won most of its wars (if only because they tended to pick on weak opponents or choose the winning side).

Won:

Austro-Prussian War (on a technicality)
Occupation of the Papal States
Occupation of Eritrea
Boxer Rebellion
Italo-Ottoman War
World War I
Second Italo-Ethiopian War
Occupation of Albania

Lost:

First Italo-Ethiopian War
World War II

LOL! Yeah, come tell me how many wars Italians won. I am very impressed.

For a Greek to chide another country for being militarily inept is amusing.  Have you been to Trebizond, Smyrna, or Constantinople lately?