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« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2011, 08:45:54 am »

I still believe Romano Prodi was almost a saint...had to manage a coalition going from demochristians to hardcore communists,did so succesfully for a few years and managed to get us in the Eurozone.
And,of course,beat Berlusconi twice out of two general elections.

He had the potential to be very successful, had the parties (and the voter) given him a true chance to act.


So, everybody nominates their own local left-wing government of the 90s instead? How shocking. But I certainly won't nominate Jospin's government on my part.

I will do it for you. Jospin was great. Cheesy
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« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2011, 01:40:23 pm »

So, everybody nominates their own local left-wing government of the 90s instead? How shocking. But I certainly won't nominate Jospin's government on my part.

You could nominate Chretien Tongue
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« Reply #27 on: January 24, 2011, 02:21:36 pm »

So, everybody nominates their own local left-wing government of the 90s instead? How shocking. But I certainly won't nominate Jospin's government on my part.

You could nominate Chretien Tongue

Chretien was centre-right, and some would argue to the right of Mulroney (at least in economic policy) Smiley
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« Reply #28 on: January 24, 2011, 05:58:39 pm »

No one gonna chime in with "BOB HAWKE!"?
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« Reply #29 on: January 25, 2011, 12:41:30 pm »

No, but Brian Cowen was until a few days ago.
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« Reply #30 on: January 25, 2011, 12:49:44 pm »


I know you like to practice irony but here I really need to bed sure. You... are... joking... right ? Huh
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« Reply #31 on: January 25, 2011, 12:52:22 pm »

No. Though only if the tactical purpose and gauge of success of centre-left governments is to be succeeded by slightly more leftwing governments. Grin
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« Reply #32 on: January 25, 2011, 02:18:09 pm »

So, everybody nominates their own local left-wing government of the 90s instead? How shocking. But I certainly won't nominate Jospin's government on my part.
I am far from saying Prodi's was most succesful center-left gov't in the world...just thought it deserved at least one mention.
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« Reply #33 on: January 25, 2011, 02:56:23 pm »

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« Reply #34 on: January 25, 2011, 04:02:28 pm »

Zapatero really needs to do something about those Devil-like eyebrows. Maybe he can work on them after he loses the next General election.
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« Reply #35 on: January 25, 2011, 04:04:22 pm »

So, everybody nominates their own local left-wing government of the 90s instead? How shocking. But I certainly won't nominate Jospin's government on my part.
I am far from saying Prodi's was most succesful center-left gov't in the world...just thought it deserved at least one mention.
It doesn't. It only appears as if it did when compared to Berlusconi's do nothing (but party and self-protect) administrations.

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« Reply #36 on: January 25, 2011, 08:11:14 pm »

LOL, successful center left governments in the 1990s were a dime a dozen. Show me one today outside of Latin America and I might be impressed.
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« Reply #37 on: January 25, 2011, 08:14:40 pm »

Spain has the busiest coat of arms.  So much going on there.  And they stuck the thing on the flag.  Who puts their coat of arms on the flag?
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« Reply #38 on: January 26, 2011, 03:26:50 am »

So, everybody nominates their own local left-wing government of the 90s instead? How shocking. But I certainly won't nominate Jospin's government on my part.
I am far from saying Prodi's was most succesful center-left gov't in the world...just thought it deserved at least one mention.
It doesn't. It only appears as if it did when compared to Berlusconi's do nothing (but party and self-protect) administrations.


Prodi came to power both times when Italy's conditions were disastrous,so putting things into perspective,I believe he made crucial policies in order to save (temporarily,of course) Italy from complete decline.
Just try to think about us with lire instead of euros...
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« Reply #39 on: January 26, 2011, 03:29:39 am »


Just try to think about us with lire instead of euros...

Ah, yes, a sense of a national identity. Imagine that.  Wink  Way better looking bills, too.
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« Reply #40 on: January 26, 2011, 04:45:04 am »


Just try to think about us with lire instead of euros...

Ah, yes, a sense of a national identity. Imagine that.  Wink  Way better looking bills, too.

The national identity part isn't important. I don't particularly care if my currency is called "Deutsche Mark" or "Euro".

I do care about having to bail out everyone else. And the worst part about the Euro is there really is no alternative. Sad
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« Reply #41 on: January 26, 2011, 05:52:53 am »

I truly believe Sweden's best and brightest electoral moment was "Euro YES; 42,0% NO 55,9%" Sometimes even Sweden manages to make the right decission at the ballot box.

As for successful left-wing goverments today... Stoltenberg in Norway appears to be doing fine despite some of the facist-lite left-wing reforms he's pushed through during his six years in power. But then when you're strongest political opponents are the actual facists...
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« Reply #42 on: January 26, 2011, 08:47:23 am »

Spain has the busiest coat of arms.  So much going on there.  And they stuck the thing on the flag.  Who puts their coat of arms on the flag?

It looks cool. Castila, Leon, Aragon, Navarra, Granada with the Bourbon arms at the middle. It looked even cooler under Franco when there was a huge eagle behind and there was the 'Espana, una, grande y libre' slogan.
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« Reply #43 on: January 27, 2011, 07:33:12 am »


Just try to think about us with lire instead of euros...

Ah, yes, a sense of a national identity. Imagine that.  Wink  Way better looking bills, too.
Yeah,and our economy would have probably collapsed like Argentina's by now Wink
We haven't developed a true sense of national identity in 150 years,it's not like having lire would make much difference.
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« Reply #44 on: January 27, 2011, 03:03:03 pm »

Yeah,and our economy would have probably collapsed like Argentina's by now Wink

You mean it's possible to be any worse?
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« Reply #45 on: January 28, 2011, 03:23:12 am »

Yeah,and our economy would have probably collapsed like Argentina's by now Wink

You mean it's possible to be any worse?

Look at it this way: at least it isn't the DR Congo. ^^
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« Reply #46 on: January 28, 2011, 05:44:03 pm »

Yeah,and our economy would have probably collapsed like Argentina's by now Wink

You mean it's possible to be any worse?
Don't be naive.
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« Reply #47 on: January 29, 2011, 12:59:46 am »

Yeah,and our economy would have probably collapsed like Argentina's by now Wink

You mean it's possible to be any worse?
Don't be naive.

I think you mean "don't be sarcastic."  Wink
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« Reply #48 on: January 29, 2011, 04:23:15 am »

Yeah,and our economy would have probably collapsed like Argentina's by now Wink

You mean it's possible to be any worse?
Don't be naive.

I think you mean "don't be sarcastic."  Wink
I thought you were serious...
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« Reply #49 on: January 29, 2011, 08:48:13 am »

Thinking about this, but was he actually riffing off the Carlsberg adverts?
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