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Question: Would you quit your job?
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« on: January 23, 2011, 02:49:49 PM »

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Hell yeah, of course I would.  Who wouldn't?
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« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2011, 02:58:32 PM »

Why don't you quit your job and then go and apply for unemployment.  I'll be there with the Polaroid when you get the big decline notice.  Until then, nice try.  Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2011, 03:00:35 PM »

Why don't you quit your job and then go and apply for unemployment.  I'll be there with the Polaroid when you get the big decline notice.  Until then, nice try.  Smiley

Ah, but not only can you not be rejected, it's mandatory:

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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2011, 03:18:25 PM »

Would you look at that, a lazy libertarian!
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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2011, 03:24:26 PM »

If you could get unemployment by voluntarily quitting your job, this thread might make some sense.
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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2011, 03:37:54 PM »

Would you look at that, a lazy libertarian!

I think you've just simultaneously won the Most Useless Post and Most Useless User awards for the year.
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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2011, 03:51:35 PM »

Would you look at that, a lazy libertarian!

I think you've just simultaneously won the Most Useless Post and Most Useless User awards for the year.

Does prize money come with that? Or is it just a title?
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« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2011, 03:57:07 PM »

You can't get on unemployment by quitting your job.

However, I do think unemployment should actually give you close to what your actual salary was. My unemployment gives me a little more than half of my salary, and it only lasts for 6 months. If I wasn't expecting a big tax return this year, I'd be screwed.
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« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2011, 03:58:36 PM »

Why don't you quit your job and then go and apply for unemployment.  I'll be there with the Polaroid when you get the big decline notice.  Until then, nice try.  Smiley

Ah, but not only can you not be rejected, it's mandatory:

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Yes.  And then when you lose your job, you get unemployment benefits... much like the real world.  Just because you have to register with the unemployment administration doesn't mean you can just quit your job and start collecting benefits.
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« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2011, 04:03:21 PM »

Let me think about that for a second and I'll get back with you...

Okay, I'm back and the verdict is NO!!

I've wisened up in the past 6 months!!!
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« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2011, 04:54:45 PM »

wormyguy, are you reminding us that toilers must toil for us so that we may enjoy our leisure?  I think everyone agrees that only from human misery can human pleasure spring, so your observation is hardly newsworthy.
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« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2011, 04:57:47 PM »

so you can't get unemployment if you quit your job? 
you need to get sacked?

what if your employer pressures you to "quit"?
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« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2011, 04:59:17 PM »

so you can't get unemployment if you quit your job? 
you need to get sacked?

what if your employer pressures you to "quit"?

Yes, the key to capitalism is that workers remain powerless, shua.
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« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2011, 05:06:19 PM »

so you can't get unemployment if you quit your job? 
you need to get sacked?

what if your employer pressures you to "quit"?

Yes, the key to capitalism is that workers remain powerless, shua.

the key to state bureaucracy is that it claims to secure your welfare until you get to the fine print.
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« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2011, 05:07:06 PM »

so you can't get unemployment if you quit your job? 
you need to get sacked?

what if your employer pressures you to "quit"?

Yes, the key to capitalism is that workers remain powerless, shua.

the key to state bureaucracy is that it claims to secure your welfare until you get to the fine print.

WHat's that supposed to mean?
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« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2011, 05:20:28 PM »

Even if you could get this by quitting, I have my career to think of.

Everyone's going to know if I quit my job just to collect unemployment while doing nothing worthwhile. Even if it's just one year, how's that going to look on my resume? "Yeah, we hire this guy, who knows when he's going to quit." Unlike some people my job actually requires this thing called skills and it actually requires that you stay abreast of developments in the industry. You can't just drop out for a year (let alone multiple years) and expect to be as valuable as you were before.

I'd lose my contact, the people who could testify to my character. My job requires a security clearance and that is downgraded after 1 year and expires completely after 2 years.

Not to mention my friends and family, I lose respect from them, I can't date any more because who wants to date an unemployed person, even if they're still collecting money? Not goal oriented.

It's not about the money, really. Having a job for middle class people is about social status. It's about having respect from others and being seen as successful and respectable, which is just as important as the money if not even more so for some people.

Now, if I were a poor person, who wasn't respectable anyway, then that might be different. In that case this might be a good deal, because I would have less to lose by not working. But that would only be if I felt I had no hope of real advancement beyond a low class, that is a sad state to be in.
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« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2011, 09:27:01 PM »

Does this count as a strawman?
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« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2011, 10:07:30 PM »

Having been on unemployment for 13 months, skills rotting and not updating, employers putting you under more scrutiny- HELL NO!!!!
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« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2011, 01:33:37 AM »

Quitting your job isn't losing your job.
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« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2011, 04:32:43 AM »

I have no job and even if I did it would not be worthwhile to lose it for the benefits. There is guilt and shame from being a burden to others - a sense of urgency to find a productive outlet. Also, there is the promise of a higher quality of life with employment and the satisfaction of helping to support others. The prospect of eeking by on a small stipend leaves much to be desired as well, so I am not sure who in their right mind would be satisfied with this unless deprived of better options.
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« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2011, 01:13:10 PM »

Not to mention my friends and family, I lose respect from them, I can't date any more because who wants to date an unemployed person, even if they're still collecting money? Not goal oriented.

It's not about the money, really. Having a job for middle class people is about social status. It's about having respect from others and being seen as successful and respectable, which is just as important as the money if not even more so for some people.

Now, if I were a poor person, who wasn't respectable anyway, then that might be different. In that case this might be a good deal, because I would have less to lose by not working. But that would only be if I felt I had no hope of real advancement beyond a low class, that is a sad state to be in.

Actually Beet, the stultifying middle-class cage you describe sounds very sad as well.  (as it should, since 'middle class' is actually also poor in real terms)
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« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2011, 01:17:07 PM »

Thank you Wormguy, how courageous it is to post your pathetic rant against my bill in a board I almost never post in ! Wink

I won't even respond to your silly attacks, because a simple look at my bill is enough to realize that what you say makes no sense.
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