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« on: November 24, 2004, 03:30:40 am »

1 A None of the Above Option shall be included on federal election ballots.

2 Voters choosing to vote for None of The Above will not be able to preference any candidate.

3 If none of the above wins more votes than the candidate with the highest number of first preferences, the election shall be declared null and void, and a special election for that seat shall be held in no less than two weeks and no more than three, where the None of the Above option shall be equally valid, as well as all the provisions in this bill.

4 None of the candidates defeated against none of the above shall be permitted to run in the special election.

5 Presidential elections will be unaffected by this act.
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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2004, 01:18:32 pm »

this is a good idea.  It will really help in elections where there aren't any good candidates, but what happens if no one declares for the special election?
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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2004, 01:22:52 pm »

this is a good idea.  It will really help in elections where there aren't any good candidates, but what happens if no one declares for the special election?

What happens if no one declares for a regular election? There has been no need to legislate on that, so why would there be on this?
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« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2004, 12:23:13 pm »

I ask this be given priority, so to be aplicable on the coming election.
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« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2004, 02:37:38 pm »

this is a good idea. It will really help in elections where there aren't any good candidates, but what happens if no one declares for the special election?

What happens if no one declares for a regular election? There has been no need to legislate on that, so why would there be on this?
good point.  I hope we can quickly be given official debate time and that we can pass this to go in effect before the next election.
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« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2004, 03:25:51 pm »

I hereby open the debate.
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« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2004, 04:20:55 pm »

This is a good idea.  It gives recognition to the fact citizens will think all candidates stink.
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« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2004, 05:16:14 pm »

I really like this idea. I strongly urge all my fellow senators to vote yes on this bill. It would give options to those who didn't prefer to vote for any candidate.
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« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2004, 05:18:33 pm »

I support this bill.

A question, will NOTA be included in a hypothetical run off?
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« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2004, 05:28:58 pm »

I support this bill.

A question, will NOTA be included in a hypothetical run off?

Sure, but that beged clarification, I'll edit the bill to reflect that.
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« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2004, 02:29:43 pm »

I oppose this act and I will veto if it is passed. A "none of the Above" option is quite silly when you can either leave that part of the ballot blank or write in a candidate.

Having an aditional run off is a waste of time as well.
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« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2004, 02:42:54 pm »

I oppose this act and I will veto if it is passed. A "none of the Above" option is quite silly when you can either leave that part of the ballot blank or write in a candidate.

Having an aditional run off is a waste of time as well.

The entire point of a none of the above option IS having a runnof, if it would not be binding it would be stupid to try to implement it.
I will not withdraw this, I will go down with this ship if needed be.
I hope the senate does not cave in to this, and fails to pass a bill that is perfectly consensual and wanted by everyone.
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« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2004, 03:43:31 pm »

I oppose this act and I will veto if it is passed. A "none of the Above" option is quite silly when you can either leave that part of the ballot blank or write in a candidate.

Having an aditional run off is a waste of time as well.

Be careful, Mr. President, or 'None of the Above' could become a formidable opponent in February.
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« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2004, 03:45:14 pm »

I oppose this act and I will veto if it is passed. A "none of the Above" option is quite silly when you can either leave that part of the ballot blank or write in a candidate.

Having an aditional run off is a waste of time as well.

Be careful, Mr. President, or 'None of the Above' could become a formidable opponent in February.

5 Presidential elections will be unaffected by this act.
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« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2004, 03:53:07 pm »

I oppose this act and I will veto if it is passed. A "none of the Above" option is quite silly when you can either leave that part of the ballot blank or write in a candidate.

Having an aditional run off is a waste of time as well.

Be careful, Mr. President, or 'None of the Above' could become a formidable opponent in February.

5 Presidential elections will be unaffected by this act.

He's allways free to propose an ammendment to that. Smiley
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« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2004, 09:05:47 pm »

I oppose this act and I will veto if it is passed. A "none of the Above" option is quite silly when you can either leave that part of the ballot blank or write in a candidate.

Having an aditional run off is a waste of time as well.

Be careful, Mr. President, or 'None of the Above' could become a formidable opponent in February.

5 Presidential elections will be unaffected by this act.

He's allways free to propose an ammendment to that. Smiley

I think I will.  None of the Above should be a viable option in any federal election on the Atlas Forum.

I hereby propose an amendment to strike section 5 from this bill.
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« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2004, 03:01:51 am »

I oppose this act and I will veto if it is passed. A "none of the Above" option is quite silly when you can either leave that part of the ballot blank or write in a candidate.

Having an aditional run off is a waste of time as well.

Be careful, Mr. President, or 'None of the Above' could become a formidable opponent in February.

5 Presidential elections will be unaffected by this act.

He's allways free to propose an ammendment to that. Smiley

I think I will.  None of the Above should be a viable option in any federal election on the Atlas Forum.

I hereby propose an amendment to strike section 5 from this bill.

I'd like to make a motion that this ammendment, and following the whole bill, be put to a vote, since it seems pretty consensual.
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« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2004, 03:40:46 pm »

Bill seems fine to me as is. Good job Senator.

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« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2004, 12:22:36 pm »

I oppose this act and I will veto if it is passed. A "none of the Above" option is quite silly when you can either leave that part of the ballot blank or write in a candidate.

Having an aditional run off is a waste of time as well.

Be careful, Mr. President, or 'None of the Above' could become a formidable opponent in February.

5 Presidential elections will be unaffected by this act.

He's allways free to propose an ammendment to that. Smiley

I think I will.  None of the Above should be a viable option in any federal election on the Atlas Forum.

I hereby propose an amendment to strike section 5 from this bill.

As a week has passed I hereby open the voting on the amendment put forward by Sen. Stevennick to remove section 5.

Please vote Yea, Nay or abstain.
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« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2004, 12:24:37 pm »

Yea. On the ammendment.
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« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2004, 12:27:43 pm »

Yea
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« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2004, 02:42:09 pm »

Yea
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« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2004, 02:42:39 pm »

Yea
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« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2004, 03:33:07 pm »

Yea.
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« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2004, 05:08:21 pm »

Nay
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