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  If Gore had won Florida, who would be President today?
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« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2011, 10:44:10 am »

Gore narrowly wins in 04
Tea Party rises by 05
Pence becomes speaker in 06
Ron Paul/Sarah Palin or Mike Huckabee/Mitchell Daniels  wins 08 election


How old were you in 05?

Because there was no cause for the TP that early....

No war + No tax code changes = No deficit = No Tea Party?

Instead the 90s anti-Clinton militias probably would've just continued under Gore and shot up the place.


I beg to differ. High taxes+police state enviromentalist laws precipitating gas prices in line with Europe+9/11+worse failure in Afganistan+mandated socialized medicine= Tea Party in 05 with a full Conservative/Libertarian alliance

That is one car crash of a response.

I actually agree with JCL.

Hmmmm... that's more than a little concerning...
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« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2011, 07:23:21 pm »

2 Scenarios seem viable, assuming that the major international events of the past decade still occur as in real life:

1. The mirror-world: Gore wins narrowly in 2004.  There is no War in Iraq.  Gore pushes carbon regulation through congress in 2005.  Conservative backlash makes 2006 a minor Republican wave in Congress (the environment is far less polarizing than health care in a decent economy).  After the stock market crash, a Republican wins in 2008 by about the same margin that Obama won in real life.

2. Gore narrowly loses to a Republican (likely McCain) in 2004.  The War in Iraq starts in 2005.  The 2006 elections are much closer than in real life.  In 2008, the Republican becomes the inverse Carter when the economy crashes and loses to a Democrat (likely H. Clinton or Obama) in a landslide.  With an incumbent president on the ballot, it would be a bigger blowout than 2008, and the Democrat could get FDR numbers in a 2 way race.

Also, if Gore served 8 years, we would have a left-leaning Supreme Court right now.
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« Reply #27 on: May 07, 2011, 07:45:18 pm »

There would be no Iraq War, which means that by 2008 Israel would be gone and Saddam would be in total control of the Middle East. Good job, President Gore Tongue.
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« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2011, 07:52:48 pm »

There would be no Iraq War, which means that by 2008 Israel would be gone and Saddam would be in total control of the Middle East. Good job, President Gore Tongue.

A Republican could make the 2004 campaign about the necessity of military action in Iraq and win if that were the direction the world was going.
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« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2011, 10:29:01 pm »

There would be no Iraq War, which means that by 2008 Israel would be gone and Saddam would be in total control of the Middle East. Good job, President Gore Tongue.

What? do you have any idea of either the politics dynamics of the ME, let alone Saddam's military capacity?

Given that response... you don't.
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« Reply #30 on: May 08, 2011, 06:34:01 pm »

There would be no Iraq War, which means that by 2008 Israel would be gone and Saddam would be in total control of the Middle East. Good job, President Gore Tongue.

What? do you have any idea of either the politics dynamics of the ME, let alone Saddam's military capacity?

Leave him alone. He was an embryo when Iraq war happened, so he don't know that.
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« Reply #31 on: May 14, 2011, 09:29:13 pm »

With 9/11: Gore narrowly reelected in '04. George Allen or Jeb Bush wins in '08. This scenario is probably the most likely.

Without 9/11: Gore loses in '04 to McCain, McCain loses in '08 to Hillary or Mark Warner.

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