Mitch Daniels and Daylights Savings Time

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Before Daniels was Governor, only part of Indiana participated in the annoying and idiotic nuisance that is Daylights Savings Time. In 2006 it changed to all of it doing so, and he signed the bill. (This is probably his most notable accomplishment by the way making me wonder why so many are crazy about him.)

Could this negatively affect him in running?

[Guderian]

Why would it affect him negatively? Almost entire civilized world observes DST.

[Oakvale]

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[Bull Moose Base]

The early good night he should worry about is for his campaign.  I don't see Daniels faring well in IA or SC because of the social issues truce and the independents-inclusive NH electorate that he might have more appeal with supports Romney in what is more likely than not going to be a stable way.  Unless I'm missing something, if Daniels did run, I'd bet on it being a short campaign.  Though he's a pundit and maybe Bush family favorite, I don't get why he's higher on intrade than Thune, Pawlenty and especially Huckabee who seems as ambivalent about a run as Daniels but would have a relatively easy nomination path as far as I can see.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Why would it affect him negatively? Almost entire civilized world observes DST.

Consider the person asking.

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

The fact that he's so short will hurt him more.

[Badlands17]

Before Daniels was Governor, only part of Indiana participated in the annoying and idiotic nuisance that is Daylights Savings Time. In 2006 it changed to all of it doing so, and he signed the bill. (This is probably his most notable accomplishment by the way making me wonder why so many are crazy about him.)

Could this negatively affect him in running?

It is annoying, but that probably has more to do with the fact that solar noon happens at almost 2pm during DST here, and it can be totally dark getting ready in the morning in early October. The whole state should be on Central Time (82' 30" W, the "ideal" dividing line between Central and Eastern time, runs east of Columbus, Ohio). I remember the DST controversy, and it used to be really strange for everyone because part of the year we'd be on the same time zone as Central folks and the other we'd be sharing the same time as Eastern. I understand why it was done, but it seems the reason they never adopted DST was because solar noon was already happening so late with Eastern time. I imagine this won't hurt him in the primaries; no one here is bitter about it.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Why would it affect him negatively? Almost entire civilized world observes DST.

I really hate DST, it's annoying, stupid and unnecessary. If I were elected to Congress I'd sponsor a bill banning all recognition of DST in the US.

Most of South America has done away with this abomination thankfully:

[SvenssonRS]

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I second that.

[Mr. Morden]

Why would it affect him negatively? Almost entire civilized world observes DST.

I really hate DST, it's annoying, stupid and unnecessary. If I were elected to Congress I'd sponsor a bill banning all recognition of DST in the US.

Most of South America has done away with this abomination thankfully:

Isn't Arizona a wonderful state? 

And what are the countries in red?  Places where they haven't invented time?  Places where observing DST is punishable by death?

[Gustaf]

It's countries that have never observed it, while the orange ones have at some point in the past.

It's pretty obvious that it's a better idea the closer you are to the poles. For equatorial countries it doesn't make much sense.

[Insula Dei]

What's up with North-East BC?

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Yet another "brilliant" BRTD thread.

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

And why does the fascist police state of Arizona not follow it?

[minionofmidas]

It's countries that have never observed it, while the orange ones have at some point in the past.

It's pretty obvious that it's a better idea the closer you are to the poles. For equatorial countries it doesn't make much sense.

More that the idea's stupidity becomes ever more obvious the closer you get to the Equator.

As to the question: No, duh. For some bizarre reason majorities - though not large majorities - approve of the practice. It is also my experience that late rising people are more likely to approve than early rising people - and they of course have the power.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

And why does the fascist police state of Arizona not follow it?

They did for one year, 1966 or whereabouts. One of the most powerful figures in the state legislature owned a drive-in theater that almost went out of business as a result because movies couldn't start until very late in the summer and couldn't get much business. So the next year he got the legislature to opt out.

No I'm not kidding, that's what really happened. Of course there was also major opposition to it because it was increasing peoples' air conditioning bills and that's the main reason there has never been any movement to reinstate it.

What's mindboggling is why Alaska bothers to follow it considering the day/night cycles up there. Hawaii had the good sense at least.

It's countries that have never observed it, while the orange ones have at some point in the past.

It's pretty obvious that it's a better idea the closer you are to the poles. For equatorial countries it doesn't make much sense.

More that the idea's stupidity becomes ever more obvious the closer you get to the Equator.

As to the question: No, duh. For some bizarre reason majorities - though not large majorities - approve of the practice. It is also my experience that late rising people are more likely to approve than early rising people - and they of course have the power.

Funny, I am a late riser. But yeah it wasn't uncommon to have to drive to school in pitch blackness in North Dakota. And of course farmers are always the most opposed, they tend to ignore it in terms of their own work schedule. North Dakota has actually considered opting out a few times (or at least the Central Time part), but never got around to it.

One thing I never understood is how things like police reports are handled when the same time happens twice. Or how places with overnight shift employees deal with it. Does everyone working at 2AM just get stuck with having to work an extra hour that day? I imagine it messes up payrolls a bunch too.

[minionofmidas]

Night trains tend to idle at a station for an hour.

[Gustaf]

It's countries that have never observed it, while the orange ones have at some point in the past.

It's pretty obvious that it's a better idea the closer you are to the poles. For equatorial countries it doesn't make much sense.

More that the idea's stupidity becomes ever more obvious the closer you get to the Equator.

As to the question: No, duh. For some bizarre reason majorities - though not large majorities - approve of the practice. It is also my experience that late rising people are more likely to approve than early rising people - and they of course have the power.

Well, I like it. It gives me less darkness in the winter morning and the beautiful light nights in the summer. 

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

This awful awful awful practice needs to be abolished ASAP.

[RIP Robert H Bork]

*facepalm* Of course not; it isn't an issue. DST is a good thing, anyway.

[courts]

This awful awful awful practice needs to be abolished ASAP.

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

I opposed Gov. Daniels on this one. Based on the fact that the latitude longitude  lines show that Indiana should be in the Central Timezone (so should the western half of Ohio).

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

didn't Daniels just make it the same throughout the state? to me that makes sense at least. as much as i think DST is an awful idea, it's doesn't rise to the level of who to support for president.

[GMantis]

Funny, I am a late riser. But yeah it wasn't uncommon to have to drive to school in pitch blackness in North Dakota. And of course farmers are always the most opposed, they tend to ignore it in terms of their own work schedule. North Dakota has actually considered opting out a few times (or at least the Central Time part), but never got around to it.

If you are a late rise, why do you support a system by which sunrise would be before 6 AM almost half of the year?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

The sun always rises before I get up anyway. My work schedule starts at noon, so 10:30AM is my standard wakeup time.

I don't really care if DST is abolished, or standard time is abolished, or perhaps best of all we just shift standard time ahead a half hour and keep that half the year. Just do away with the silly clock switching.