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« on: November 27, 2004, 10:34:06 AM »

I heard on the news last night that Senator John Corzine will be in the running for governor in 2005

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« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2004, 11:27:33 AM »

I heard on the news last night that Senator John Corzine will be in the running for governor in 2005

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That is correct. Sen. Corzine is expected to announce his intentions to run sometime this week. On the GOP side there is going to be a highly contested primary with about seven candidates. Me and NixonNow are starting up a website dedeciated to the NJ Governor's race in a few weeks. It will include news about the race, fundraising totals, and biographys of all candidates. Stay tuned for more.
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« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2004, 11:36:38 AM »

I hope Forrester wins the GOP nomination. He has the best chance of winning though if Corzine is actually running, Forrester's chances aren't good.
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« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2004, 11:41:54 AM »

I heard on the news last night that Senator John Corzine will be in the running for governor in 2005

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That is correct. Sen. Corzine is expected to announce his intentions to run sometime this week. On the GOP side there is going to be a highly contested primary with about seven candidates. Me and NixonNow are starting up a website dedeciated to the NJ Governor's race in a few weeks. It will include news about the race, fundraising totals, and biographys of all candidates. Stay tuned for more.

Do you think Corzine will have a more or less clear run in the Democratic primary?

I check your site out once its up and running

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« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2004, 12:15:46 PM »

I heard on the news last night that Senator John Corzine will be in the running for governor in 2005

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That is correct. Sen. Corzine is expected to announce his intentions to run sometime this week. On the GOP side there is going to be a highly contested primary with about seven candidates. Me and NixonNow are starting up a website dedeciated to the NJ Governor's race in a few weeks. It will include news about the race, fundraising totals, and biographys of all candidates. Stay tuned for more.

Do you think Corzine will have a more or less clear run in the Democratic primary?

I check your site out once its up and running

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I believe that Corzine will win the Democratic primary even if Codey or Andrews runs. He has the money factor, which won him the US Senate seat. Early pollings from politicsnj have shown that Corzine has a 40% lead over Codey in the primary, and a 20% lead over any GOP candidate in the general election. Hawk, I will post a thread when the site is up and running.
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« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2004, 02:41:24 PM »

Then who will take his Senate seat?

I hope Andrews.
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« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2004, 02:46:10 PM »

Is Corzine up for reelection in 2006?
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« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2004, 02:48:20 PM »


Yes he is and if he is elected Governor he will appoint his successor. I say either Andrews or Menendez will take the seat.
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« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2004, 02:57:44 PM »

Then my only problem with Corzine running melts away.  Corzine for Gov', 2006!
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« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2004, 03:02:07 PM »


The election is in 2005.
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« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2004, 03:05:07 PM »

Corzine for Gov', 2005!
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« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2004, 07:54:11 PM »


I hope so. He's our best chance at winning but I'm afraid that Corzine will have this race won.
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« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2004, 10:54:20 PM »

Forrester is a terrible candidate. The Republicans only ran him in 2002 because he had lots of money, not expecting him to win, and then got a chance when all the scandals on Torricelli broke. He has no chance against any half decent candidate.
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« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2004, 10:56:36 PM »

The Republicans only ran him in 2002 because he had lots of money,

Money was the only big reason Corzine won (and barely won actually) the NJ Senate race in 2000.
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« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2004, 10:58:33 PM »

With all this talk of New Jersey supposedly trending Republican, why don't the Republicans have a chance in hell of winning any office?
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« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2004, 11:02:37 PM »

With all this talk of New Jersey supposedly trending Republican, why don't the Republicans have a chance in hell of winning any office?

Republicans don't hold office in NJ?
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« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2004, 11:05:38 PM »

Look at my "complete party control map" I made awhile back. NJ is one of the 3 states (now that it appears Rossi won in WA) that the Democrats control the governor's office, both Senate seats, both houses of the legislature and a majority of Congressmen. And NJ is not trending Republican, quite the opposite. Look at the 1988 results.
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« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2004, 11:08:42 PM »

Look at my "complete party control map" I made awhile back. NJ is one of the 3 states (now that it appears Rossi won in WA) that the Democrats control the governor's office, both Senate seats, both houses of the legislature and a majority of Congressmen. And NJ is not trending Republican, quite the opposite. Look at the 1988 results.

But what about your point concerning Forrester and his money? Corzine became someone big for that same reason.
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« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2004, 11:09:55 PM »

With all this talk of New Jersey supposedly trending Republican, why don't the Republicans have a chance in hell of winning any office?

Republicans don't hold office in NJ?

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« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2004, 11:16:38 PM »

With all this talk of New Jersey supposedly trending Republican, why don't the Republicans have a chance in hell of winning any office?

Republicans don't hold office in NJ?

Statewide

With all this talk of New Jersey supposedly trending Republican, why don't the Republicans have a chance in hell of winning any office?

Republicans don't hold office in NJ?

Statewide

Well to say that they don't have a chance at winning is unfair.
2000 - Bob Franks lost to Corzine by about 3 points. That's not much.

  2002 - Forrester was about to become the next U.S. Senator before the NJ Dems withdrew their candidate.

2006 - If Corzine becomes Governor, his Senate seat opens up. Republicans can take it, though it will be difficult (wouldn't say their chances are zero, though).

2005 Gubernatorial race - If Corzine doesn't run (looks like he will but anything can happen in NJ) I think the GOP candidate not only has a chance but will win the office.
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« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2004, 11:19:50 PM »

With all this talk of New Jersey supposedly trending Republican, why don't the Republicans have a chance in hell of winning any office?

Republicans don't hold office in NJ?

Statewide

With all this talk of New Jersey supposedly trending Republican, why don't the Republicans have a chance in hell of winning any office?

Republicans don't hold office in NJ?

Statewide

Well to say that they don't have a chance at winning is unfair.
2000 - Bob Franks lost to Corzine by about 3 points. That's not much.

  2002 - Forrester was about to become the next U.S. Senator before the NJ Dems withdrew their candidate.

2006 - If Corzine becomes Governor, his Senate seat opens up. Republicans can take it, though it will be difficult (wouldn't say their chances are zero, though).

2005 Gubernatorial race - If Corzine doesn't run (looks like he will but anything can happen in NJ) I think the GOP candidate not only has a chance but will win the office.

Lol ok...I just got the feeling from this thread, even from you, that the Republicans have little if any chance.
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« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2004, 11:21:23 PM »

Look at my "complete party control map" I made awhile back. NJ is one of the 3 states (now that it appears Rossi won in WA) that the Democrats control the governor's office, both Senate seats, both houses of the legislature and a majority of Congressmen. And NJ is not trending Republican, quite the opposite. Look at the 1988 results.

But what about your point concerning Forrester and his money? Corzine became someone big for that same reason.

NJ is a Democratic-leaning state. Just because Corzine can win doesn't mean Forrester can.
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« Reply #22 on: November 27, 2004, 11:22:22 PM »

With all this talk of New Jersey supposedly trending Republican, why don't the Republicans have a chance in hell of winning any office?

Republicans don't hold office in NJ?

Statewide

With all this talk of New Jersey supposedly trending Republican, why don't the Republicans have a chance in hell of winning any office?

Republicans don't hold office in NJ?

Statewide

Well to say that they don't have a chance at winning is unfair.
2000 - Bob Franks lost to Corzine by about 3 points. That's not much.

  2002 - Forrester was about to become the next U.S. Senator before the NJ Dems withdrew their candidate.

2006 - If Corzine becomes Governor, his Senate seat opens up. Republicans can take it, though it will be difficult (wouldn't say their chances are zero, though).

2005 Gubernatorial race - If Corzine doesn't run (looks like he will but anything can happen in NJ) I think the GOP candidate not only has a chance but will win the office.

Lol ok...I just got the feeling from this thread, even from you, that the Republicans have little if any chance.

What are you talking about? Can you argue any of your points? I just gave you a list of likely situations were the GOP can pick up Senate seats/Governor's office. My point here is that saying the GOP has no chance at all is wrong.
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« Reply #23 on: November 27, 2004, 11:23:29 PM »

With all this talk of New Jersey supposedly trending Republican, why don't the Republicans have a chance in hell of winning any office?

Republicans don't hold office in NJ?

Statewide

With all this talk of New Jersey supposedly trending Republican, why don't the Republicans have a chance in hell of winning any office?

Republicans don't hold office in NJ?

Statewide

Well to say that they don't have a chance at winning is unfair.
2000 - Bob Franks lost to Corzine by about 3 points. That's not much.

  2002 - Forrester was about to become the next U.S. Senator before the NJ Dems withdrew their candidate.

2006 - If Corzine becomes Governor, his Senate seat opens up. Republicans can take it, though it will be difficult (wouldn't say their chances are zero, though).

2005 Gubernatorial race - If Corzine doesn't run (looks like he will but anything can happen in NJ) I think the GOP candidate not only has a chance but will win the office.

Lol ok...I just got the feeling from this thread, even from you, that the Republicans have little if any chance.

What are you talking about? Can you argue any of your points? I just gave you a list of likely situations were the GOP can pick up Senate seats/Governor's office. My point here is that saying the GOP has no chance at all is wrong.

Umm, I never claimed to be an expert on NJ politics. I came to this thread as an outsider and got the overwhelming feeling, even from you, that the Republicans dont have much of a chance of picking up any of these seats. Stop being so pompous.
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« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2004, 11:23:46 PM »

Look at my "complete party control map" I made awhile back. NJ is one of the 3 states (now that it appears Rossi won in WA) that the Democrats control the governor's office, both Senate seats, both houses of the legislature and a majority of Congressmen. And NJ is not trending Republican, quite the opposite. Look at the 1988 results.

But what about your point concerning Forrester and his money? Corzine became someone big for that same reason.

NJ is a Democratic-leaning state. Just because Corzine can win doesn't mean Forrester can.

You said the only thing Forrester had going for him was money. Same thing with Corzine, right? If Corzine didn't have the millions that he has during that Senate race, Franks would have been able to overcome the margin and win the seat.
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