Future voting patterns....

[DarthKosh]

Supersoulty,

I agree. The first Black or Hispanic President of the United States will come from the Republican Party. Why? Because the Republicans will nominate a minority candidate who is an American first, a Republican second and a minority third. The Democrats will nominuate someone who is a Democrat first, a minority second, a "citizen of the world" third, and an American fourth!!!

Exactly my point.

The counter-argument id of course that a Democratic minority candidate would probably stand a much better chance of winning.

The Dem canidate would be a lot more radical.

Not necessarily.

Yes they would be.  99 percent of all elected black politicans that are Dems are lunatics.  The only one I see that isn't is Harold Ford.

WE're talking about a distant future, and it doesn't have to be a black. It could be a Hispanic, or even a Jew, as long as it can be considered an ethnical minority.

Anybody can be an ethnic minority.

[Gustaf]

Supersoulty,

I agree. The first Black or Hispanic President of the United States will come from the Republican Party. Why? Because the Republicans will nominate a minority candidate who is an American first, a Republican second and a minority third. The Democrats will nominuate someone who is a Democrat first, a minority second, a "citizen of the world" third, and an American fourth!!!

Exactly my point.

The counter-argument id of course that a Democratic minority candidate would probably stand a much better chance of winning.

The Dem canidate would be a lot more radical.

Not necessarily.

Yes they would be.  99 percent of all elected black politicans that are Dems are lunatics.  The only one I see that isn't is Harold Ford.

WE're talking about a distant future, and it doesn't have to be a black. It could be a Hispanic, or even a Jew, as long as it can be considered an ethnical minority.

Anybody can be an ethnic minority.

Many can, but not so many actually are considered as such.

[CTguy]

Supersoulty,

I agree. The first Black or Hispanic President of the United States will come from the Republican Party. Why? Because the Republicans will nominate a minority candidate who is an American first, a Republican second and a minority third. The Democrats will nominuate someone who is a Democrat first, a minority second, a "citizen of the world" third, and an American fourth!!!

Exactly my point.

The counter-argument id of course that a Democratic minority candidate would probably stand a much better chance of winning.

The Dem canidate would be a lot more radical.

Not necessarily.

Yes they would be.  99 percent of all elected black politicans that are Dems are lunatics.  The only one I see that isn't is Harold Ford.

WE're talking about a distant future, and it doesn't have to be a black. It could be a Hispanic, or even a Jew, as long as it can be considered an ethnical minority.

Anybody can be an ethnic minority.

As a brown haired blue eyed waspy white person who is also a democrat aren't I an ethnic minority?

[DarthKosh]

Supersoulty,

I agree. The first Black or Hispanic President of the United States will come from the Republican Party. Why? Because the Republicans will nominate a minority candidate who is an American first, a Republican second and a minority third. The Democrats will nominuate someone who is a Democrat first, a minority second, a "citizen of the world" third, and an American fourth!!!

Exactly my point.

The counter-argument id of course that a Democratic minority candidate would probably stand a much better chance of winning.

The Dem canidate would be a lot more radical.

Not necessarily.

Yes they would be.  99 percent of all elected black politicans that are Dems are lunatics.  The only one I see that isn't is Harold Ford.

WE're talking about a distant future, and it doesn't have to be a black. It could be a Hispanic, or even a Jew, as long as it can be considered an ethnical minority.

Anybody can be an ethnic minority.

As a brown haired blue eyed waspy white person who is also a democrat aren't I an ethnic minority?

What's your ethnic backround?  I am part russian so I am an ethnic minority.

[CTguy]

Irish (1/4) German (1/2) and Spanish (1/4)

[DarthKosh]

Irish (1/4) German (1/2) and Spanish (1/4)

Have a hard time getting along with yourself?

[CTguy]

Sometimes...  I think there might even be a little french in the german...

though I'm sure most everyone in this country has ancestors that went to war with eachother at one point... heh.

[angus]

Supersoulty,

the Republicans will nominate a minority candidate who is an American first, a Republican second and a minority third.

And that's the truth.  See, for example, even though none of my grandparents were born in this country, and even though I had folks on both sides of World War II, I am one-hundred percent American.  If you can get past calling yourself a quarter of this, or two tablespoons of that, then you can be a republican too.

[12th Doctor]

Miguel Estrada 2016!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[angus]

I think his legal expertease recommends him much better to the judiciary rather than the executive branch, but then I'm not a lawyer.  He is a well-respected man, but unfortunately he hasn't passed muster with certain members of the senate judiciary committee.

[12th Doctor]

I think his legal expertease recommends him much better to the judiciary rather than the executive branch, but then I'm not a lawyer.  He is a well-respected man, but unfortunately he hasn't passed muster with certain members of the senate judiciary committee.

i think that he will be on the Supreme Court someday, that was more of a joke than anything.  He can't run anyway, being born in Venuzuela(sp) and all.

[angus]

Orrin Hatch has introduced a bill addressing that.  

[12th Doctor]

Orrin Hatch has introduced a bill addressing that.  

Which part?

[angus]

Oh, let me see if I can dig up a link.  Basically I was referring to his newfound fondness for Gov. Schwarzennegger.  So he wants to amend the US Constitution so that foreign-born citizens of the USA can be elected President.  I don't know whether it has any realistic chance of getting through the pipeline, though.

[12th Doctor]

Oh, let me see if I can dig up a link.  Basically I was referring to his newfound fondness for Gov. Schwarzennegger.  So he wants to amend the US Constitution so that foreign-born citizens of the USA can be elected President.  I don't know whether it has any realistic chance of getting through the pipeline, though.

Oh, yeah, I remember now, we talked about this.  I would be in favor of a clause that would make the requirement 30 years living in the United States and you have to have come here and become a citizen before the age of 18.

[dunn]

Miguel Estrada 2016!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Supersoulty 2036!!!!

[classical liberal]

supersoulty-
I agree with your EV values except SC and TN.

[Frozen Sky Ever Why]

Supersoulty,

I agree. The first Black or Hispanic President of the United States will come from the Republican Party. Why? Because the Republicans will nominate a minority candidate who is an American first, a Republican second and a minority third. The Democrats will nominuate someone who is a Democrat first, a minority second, a "citizen of the world" third, and an American fourth!!!

Wrong

[tmthforu94]

lol...
Republicans had a better chance at putting up a Republican than Democrats, looking back at 2004. Most people didn't know much about BO, and those who did probably didn't think he would run due to lack of experience. Republicans had Rice and Powell up there, and both were, and still are, very electable.
This is my thought by 2028...
The south won't be as heavy Republican, although most states will still vote Republican comfortably. Democrats will take Arizona and Colorado away from us, and all together, just dominate in the west and southwest, including making Texas competitive. Republicans will make huge strides in the North. Ohio, Michigan, and Wisconsin will all be Republican, while Illinois, Missouri, and Iowa will be toss-ups, along with Pennyslvania. Just like how Democrat's make the south competitve, the Republicans will make the Northeast competitve. Republican will continue their dominance in the midwest.

Republican >30%- Barely Republican
Republican >50%- Lean Republican
Republican >70%-Strong Republican
Democrat >30%-Barely Democrat
Democrat >50%-Lean Democrat
Democrat >70%-Strong Democrat

My map...

North Carolina is the tossup state. That's just me choosing the state I would think to be the closest in that election. The electoral count gives Republicans a 261-262 lead.

[Antonio the Sixth]

lol...
Republicans had a better chance at putting up a Republican than Democrats, looking back at 2004. Most people didn't know much about BO, and those who did probably didn't think he would run due to lack of experience. Republicans had Rice and Powell up there, and both were, and still are, very electable.
This is my thought by 2028...
The south won't be as heavy Republican, although most states will still vote Republican comfortably. Democrats will take Arizona and Colorado away from us, and all together, just dominate in the west and southwest, including making Texas competitive. Republicans will make huge strides in the North. Ohio, Michigan, and Wisconsin will all be Republican, while Illinois, Missouri, and Iowa will be toss-ups, along with Pennyslvania. Just like how Democrat's make the south competitve, the Republicans will make the Northeast competitve. Republican will continue their dominance in the midwest.

Republican >30%- Barely Republican
Republican >50%- Lean Republican
Republican >70%-Strong Republican
Democrat >30%-Barely Democrat
Democrat >50%-Lean Democrat
Democrat >70%-Strong Democrat

My map...

North Carolina is the tossup state. That's just me choosing the state I would think to be the closest in that election. The electoral count gives Republicans a 261-262 lead.

LOL The northern Midwest becoming solid GOP...

[tmthforu94]

lol...
Republicans had a better chance at putting up a Republican than Democrats, looking back at 2004. Most people didn't know much about BO, and those who did probably didn't think he would run due to lack of experience. Republicans had Rice and Powell up there, and both were, and still are, very electable.
This is my thought by 2028...
The south won't be as heavy Republican, although most states will still vote Republican comfortably. Democrats will take Arizona and Colorado away from us, and all together, just dominate in the west and southwest, including making Texas competitive. Republicans will make huge strides in the North. Ohio, Michigan, and Wisconsin will all be Republican, while Illinois, Missouri, and Iowa will be toss-ups, along with Pennyslvania. Just like how Democrat's make the south competitve, the Republicans will make the Northeast competitve. Republican will continue their dominance in the midwest.

Republican >30%- Barely Republican
Republican >50%- Lean Republican
Republican >70%-Strong Republican
Democrat >30%-Barely Democrat
Democrat >50%-Lean Democrat
Democrat >70%-Strong Democrat

My map...

North Carolina is the tossup state. That's just me choosing the state I would think to be the closest in that election. The electoral count gives Republicans a 261-262 lead.

LOL The northern Midwest becoming solid GOP...

This is 20 years away. For all you or I know, a third party could emerge and dominate. I'm just making a guess based on trends and such.

[Antonio the Sixth]

lol...
Republicans had a better chance at putting up a Republican than Democrats, looking back at 2004. Most people didn't know much about BO, and those who did probably didn't think he would run due to lack of experience. Republicans had Rice and Powell up there, and both were, and still are, very electable.
This is my thought by 2028...
The south won't be as heavy Republican, although most states will still vote Republican comfortably. Democrats will take Arizona and Colorado away from us, and all together, just dominate in the west and southwest, including making Texas competitive. Republicans will make huge strides in the North. Ohio, Michigan, and Wisconsin will all be Republican, while Illinois, Missouri, and Iowa will be toss-ups, along with Pennyslvania. Just like how Democrat's make the south competitve, the Republicans will make the Northeast competitve. Republican will continue their dominance in the midwest.

Republican >30%- Barely Republican
Republican >50%- Lean Republican
Republican >70%-Strong Republican
Democrat >30%-Barely Democrat
Democrat >50%-Lean Democrat
Democrat >70%-Strong Democrat

My map...

North Carolina is the tossup state. That's just me choosing the state I would think to be the closest in that election. The electoral count gives Republicans a 261-262 lead.

LOL The northern Midwest becoming solid GOP...

This is 20 years away. For all you or I know, a third party could emerge and dominate. I'm just making a guess based on trends and such.

Just a question : what does it give in electoral votes ?

[tmthforu94]

lol...
Republicans had a better chance at putting up a Republican than Democrats, looking back at 2004. Most people didn't know much about BO, and those who did probably didn't think he would run due to lack of experience. Republicans had Rice and Powell up there, and both were, and still are, very electable.
This is my thought by 2028...
The south won't be as heavy Republican, although most states will still vote Republican comfortably. Democrats will take Arizona and Colorado away from us, and all together, just dominate in the west and southwest, including making Texas competitive. Republicans will make huge strides in the North. Ohio, Michigan, and Wisconsin will all be Republican, while Illinois, Missouri, and Iowa will be toss-ups, along with Pennyslvania. Just like how Democrat's make the south competitve, the Republicans will make the Northeast competitve. Republican will continue their dominance in the midwest.

Republican >30%- Barely Republican
Republican >50%- Lean Republican
Republican >70%-Strong Republican
Democrat >30%-Barely Democrat
Democrat >50%-Lean Democrat
Democrat >70%-Strong Democrat

My map...

North Carolina is the tossup state. That's just me choosing the state I would think to be the closest in that election. The electoral count gives Republicans a 261-262 lead.

LOL The northern Midwest becoming solid GOP...

This is 20 years away. For all you or I know, a third party could emerge and dominate. I'm just making a guess based on trends and such.

Just a question : what does it give in electoral votes ?

I believe I stated that underneath the map. The Republican has a 261-262 lead.

[Frodo]

lol...
Republicans had a better chance at putting up a Republican than Democrats, looking back at 2004. Most people didn't know much about BO, and those who did probably didn't think he would run due to lack of experience. Republicans had Rice and Powell up there, and both were, and still are, very electable.
This is my thought by 2028...
The south won't be as heavy Republican, although most states will still vote Republican comfortably. Democrats will take Arizona and Colorado away from us, and all together, just dominate in the west and southwest, including making Texas competitive. Republicans will make huge strides in the North. Ohio, Michigan, and Wisconsin will all be Republican, while Illinois, Missouri, and Iowa will be toss-ups, along with Pennyslvania. Just like how Democrat's make the south competitve, the Republicans will make the Northeast competitve. Republican will continue their dominance in the midwest.

Republican >30%- Barely Republican
Republican >50%- Lean Republican
Republican >70%-Strong Republican
Democrat >30%-Barely Democrat
Democrat >50%-Lean Democrat
Democrat >70%-Strong Democrat

My map...

North Carolina is the tossup state. That's just me choosing the state I would think to be the closest in that election. The electoral count gives Republicans a 261-262 lead.

Explain Illinois, Connecticut, New Hampshire, and Maine going Republican. 

[tmthforu94]

It's just an educated guess. My thoughts are, that while Latino's start breaking hard Democrat, African-Americans will start trending Republican. Now, we won't win the black vote, but it won't be a landslide. Maybe, 65-35. Therefore, we won't lose by as much in cites such as Chicago or New York. As states around it start trending Republican, I suspect it will too! It's the only state in that area that is a solid Democrat. Something has to give.
The Republican party will become much more moderate, appealing to whites in places such as Connecticut. The Democrat party will be dominated by older liberals and Latino's. Connecticut is a stretch, but once again, this is only a guess. Utah could be voting Democrat in 20 years...