Irish Election Results Thread

[Filuwaúrdjan]

But it's never been a defining feature of the party; no one votes Liberal because they want their cut) and both have clear enough ideologies; revisionist socialism (or whatever else anyone feels like calling it) and that oddly mild thing that is Canadian Nationalism.

Has the Liberal Party traditionally stood for revisionism? I know regrettably little of Canadian history, but my impression was that the Trudeau government was the only Liberal government that had clear socialist tendencies.

No, revisionism was a reference to the Social Democrats.

[minionofmidas]

Presenting the recount results now... after the third round, Connolly has narrowed the gap by five votes.

[minionofmidas]

And I need to leave the house. Galway, you have wronged me. I vow eternal vengeance on thee.

[Хahar 🤔]

But it's never been a defining feature of the party; no one votes Liberal because they want their cut) and both have clear enough ideologies; revisionist socialism (or whatever else anyone feels like calling it) and that oddly mild thing that is Canadian Nationalism.

Has the Liberal Party traditionally stood for revisionism? I know regrettably little of Canadian history, but my impression was that the Trudeau government was the only Liberal government that had clear socialist tendencies.

No, revisionism was a reference to the Social Democrats.

Ah, yes, that would make much more sense.

[Јas]

Recount in Galway over - Kyne's 17 vote lead was maintained - so that concludes the counting.
The overall result:

	2011	2007
Fine Gael	76	51
Labour	37	20
Fianna Fáil	20	77
Sinn Féin	14	4
United Left	5
Independents	14	5
Green		6
PD		2

[Antonio the Sixth]

As the counts are now definitive, another update of my seat counts with other voting systems. I'll try to finish PR/constituency as soon as possible.

Party	STV	WTA	SNTV	PR/C	NPR1	NPR2
Fine Gael	76	132	79	64	67	64
Labour	37	27	34	33	36	35
Fianna Fail	20	1	19	37	33	32
Sinn Fein	14	3	16	18	18	18
United Left	5	0	5	4	5	5
Oth/Ind	14	3	13	10	7 (3G)	12 (3G)

STV : Single transferable vote, Ireland's voting system.
WTA : Winner-takes-all by constituency. The party winning a plurality gets every seat (similar to the system used for US presidential elections)
SNTV : Single non-transferable vote : the candidates getting the most votes in each constituency are elected.
PR/C : Proportional representation by constituency, using the Sainte-Lagüe method. Independents are counted separately and United Left candidates are counted together.
Nat PR : Proportional representation at the national level, using the Sainte-Lagüe method. Independent candidates must reach the quota (total vote/165) to be elected (only 2 did). The United Left candidates are counted as if they formed a single list. FF has one seat more than what it would be entitled to, due to the CC not being counted as a party member.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Bumping this because I've eventually finished my PR by constituency figure. I've also made two forms of national PR : one with a threshold of 0.6% (ie 1/165), excluding lists and independents who have got less than around 13,500 votes. The other which is pure St Lagüe. As you see, the only difference is the number of independents.

General note : in every system I've made sure to exclude the CC's seat from the count, so that FF get one seat more than "deserved". For constituency system, I've granted Kirk an immediate election in Louth and shared the 4 remaining seats as if it were a normal election.

[Kevinstat]

It seems like the result in Louth, at least by party, would have been the same if Kirk had not been automatically returned.  That's in definite contrast to the result in Cavan-Monaghan in 2007.

[Antonio the Sixth]

It seems like the result in Louth, at least by party, would have been the same if Kirk had not been automatically returned.  That's in definite contrast to the result in Cavan-Monaghan in 2007.

With STV, it's true indeed (due to epically poor FF transfers). With PR though, FF gets two seats (one elected + the CC).