SENATE BILL: Do Not PM List Act (Law'd)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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Sponsor: AHDuke99

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I was favorable till I saw the part about a "stickied" thread.


How about require the SoFE maintain it as part of Post #1 of his office thread?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

There is cause for a law short of punishments, though the point is valid as to "you might as well go ahead while we are at it". 


However, I think the primary purpose is to ensure its maintained and visible in the future and not necessarily for enforcement. I think we should wait and deal with an enforcement issue later if the need shall arise, but refrain from such at the present.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Senator Duke?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Senators have 24 hours to object to the amendment and request a recorded vote.

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A final vote is now open on Senate Amendement 1 to the Do Not PM List Act. Senators, please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Aye

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Senator Rowan, you have already voted. Do you know what happens when a Senator tries to vote twice?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

The vote is currently tied
Ayes (3): Antonio, NC Yankee, Shua
Nays (3): bgwah, Kalwejt and RowanBrandon



Abstain (4): Duke the Happy Oak Guy.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

The amendment has been passed since the 20th.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I will note that my following of the rules regarding amendment votes has been more then lax. In fact the 24 hour thing may not even actually exist for amendments.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Does the sponsor see the amendment as friendly or hostile?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Wow. The more things change, the more they stay the same. I think I proposed this 5 or 6 years ago.

We have actually had one since December by administrative fiat. This is to firmly establish it and ensure it gets maintained and has a stronger process.


SPONSOR??

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

A motion to table has been entered. These things should require a second.

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A vote is now open on the said motion. Senators have 48 hours to vote with 2/3rds voting in the affirmative for the bill to be tabled.
Nay

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Vote on tabling of the Do Not PM List Bill:

Ayes (5): bgwah, Kalwejt, Oakvale, RowanBrandon Snowguy
Nays (3): Antonio V, NC Yankee, Shua
Abstain (0):


Didn't vote (2): Duke's Happy feet


With 2/3rd's of the Senate, duly choosen and sworn, having not voted in the affirmative the motion to table IS NOT adopted.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I have sent private communiques to the sponsor requesting an answer regarding the amendment.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Vote is long over, Duke. The rules call for a strict 48 hours.


Now do you accept the amendment (a page or two back thanks to bgwah's shannigans) as friendly or hostile?

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To end the perpetual confusion machine, this is the amendment to which I was inquiring about its reception from the underlying bill's sponsor.

Senators have 24 hours to object and request a vote.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I'm actually having to agree with Marokai here. We're creating a list of people who don't want to be bothered. Yet there is no sort of enforcement to make sure those people are bothered. All this piece of legislation does is ask Atlasians not to message those people. Consequences? Nada.

The problem with that is that I doubt you'll get many people on your side since that could potentially hurt PMing GOTV efforts. Though yes, if this is going to be done, that's the only way to make it worthwhile.

You insult the professional machine party politicians. I don't know about what RPP candidates have done, but I have always been sure to avoid pming those on the official PM list and I always handle the official RPP GOTV machine.

One more thing to note is that this and the Deregistration nonesense are not a one or the other deal, folks.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Yes, there is not such mandated post in the current text. Just that it be posted in his first post. It can include anything else in that post at his discretion.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I sure would love to know what our friends in the Populares are using. I am pretty sure it is "more then the occasional beer here".

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To end the perpetual confusion machine, this is the amendment to which I was inquiring about its reception from the underlying bill's sponsor.

Senators have 24 hours to object and request a vote.

This has been passed since the first and is thus the current text. Atleast I think so. I think the Registrar should be given some latitude as to where and how exactly it is placed, just so long as he is in fact mandated to place it somewhere in the open.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Sponsor, how do ye receive the amendment from Shua?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Senators a vote is now occuring on the following amendment, please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.

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Nay

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Vote on amendment 13 to the Do Not PM List Act


Aye (1): Shua
Nays (7): AHDuke99, Antonio V, bgwah, Kalwejt, Oakvale, NC Yankee, and Snowguy716
Abstain (0):

Failed to vote (2): HappyWarrior and RowanBrandon

The amendment has failed.


Final passage tonight.