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« Reply #175 on: July 19, 2011, 09:35:18 PM »

How's the turnout? VanderLeest is enough of a joke that it seems kind of like that would tell us more than almost anything else at this point.
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« Reply #176 on: July 19, 2011, 10:02:29 PM »

Very little of these races seem to actually be about the collective bargaining bill. At least that's the impression I'm getting from the TV ads.

These must be pretty epic match ups if you're seeing the Wisconsin ads in Washington!

You know, there is a wonderful new thing called the Internets. You should try it sometimes. It's much more practical than waiting for that damn pigeon.

Jokes - I guess they're difficult to appreciate when your country is burning down.

Was Phil's comment intended to be a joke? Was it supposed to be a swipe at me? I'm confused.

Not even sure how it could be seen as a swipe. It was a joke.
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« Reply #177 on: July 19, 2011, 10:07:37 PM »

Was Phil's comment intended to be a joke? Was it supposed to be a swipe at me? I'm confused.

Not even sure how it could be seen as a swipe. It was a joke.

Oh ok. No problem then. Smiley
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« Reply #178 on: July 19, 2011, 10:08:58 PM »

AP called the 12th for Simac.

With one precinct left, Hansen is leading 66 to 34 - his exact '08 margin.
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« Reply #179 on: July 19, 2011, 11:55:44 PM »

Very little of these races seem to actually be about the collective bargaining bill. At least that's the impression I'm getting from the TV ads.

These must be pretty epic match ups if you're seeing the Wisconsin ads in Washington!

You know, there is a wonderful new thing called the Internets. You should try it sometimes. It's much more practical than waiting for that damn pigeon.

Jokes - I guess they're difficult to appreciate when your country is burning down.


I didn't know that you're from Catalunya.
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« Reply #180 on: July 20, 2011, 06:54:46 PM »

Very little of these races seem to actually be about the collective bargaining bill. At least that's the impression I'm getting from the TV ads.

These must be pretty epic match ups if you're seeing the Wisconsin ads in Washington!

You know, there is a wonderful new thing called the Internets. You should try it sometimes. It's much more practical than waiting for that damn pigeon.

Jokes - I guess they're difficult to appreciate when your country is burning down.


I didn't know that you're from Catalunya.

Catalunya isn't a country. and it isn't burning down.
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« Reply #181 on: July 20, 2011, 07:01:08 PM »

Another Dem poll, this one has Fred Clark leading Luther Olsen 45-43 among all voters, 50-44 among likely voters, and 49-46 among "certain" voters.
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« Reply #182 on: July 20, 2011, 09:39:39 PM »

Very little of these races seem to actually be about the collective bargaining bill. At least that's the impression I'm getting from the TV ads.

These must be pretty epic match ups if you're seeing the Wisconsin ads in Washington!

You know, there is a wonderful new thing called the Internets. You should try it sometimes. It's much more practical than waiting for that damn pigeon.

Jokes - I guess they're difficult to appreciate when your country is burning down.


I didn't know that you're from Catalunya.

Catalunya isn't a country. and it isn't burning down.

I was going to point out both but I figured saying that Catalunya isn't a country would cause enough of a firestorm.  Tongue
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« Reply #183 on: July 22, 2011, 01:19:45 PM »

It is, of course, an entirely untrue statement. The country of Catalunya is not an independent country.

Kinda like Sicily, then. Or Hawaii. Or the GDR. Grin

As to the burning down part, I don't get the reference.
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« Reply #184 on: July 22, 2011, 04:03:41 PM »

Catalunya could be called a Nation, but not a country.
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« Reply #185 on: July 22, 2011, 04:15:17 PM »

As to the burning down part, I don't get the reference.


Nah, I saw a news report at a local channel about wildfires near Barcelona but apparently they exaggerated the magnitude of that incident.
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« Reply #186 on: July 23, 2011, 03:32:15 AM »

Catalunya could be called a Nation, but not a country.
Exact same thing.
Unless we'd be talking about a "nation" without clearly defined boundaries, ie an ethnic group. But we aren't.
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« Reply #187 on: July 23, 2011, 04:12:07 AM »

Catalunya could be called a Nation, but not a country.
Exact same thing.
Unless we'd be talking about a "nation" without clearly defined boundaries, ie an ethnic group. But we aren't.

Well, Quebec is a nation, according to a motion the Canadian Parliament voted.
And do you know the four nations of the United Kingdom?
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« Reply #188 on: July 23, 2011, 04:58:36 AM »

And do you know the four nations of the United Kingdom?
I don't think you understood a word of my post. Probably a translation issue.
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« Reply #189 on: July 23, 2011, 05:23:12 AM »

And do you know the four nations of the United Kingdom?
I don't think you understood a word of my post. Probably a translation issue.

From the way I read it, you consider a nation and a country to be exactly the same. So, you think than Catalunya is a non-independant country?
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« Reply #190 on: July 23, 2011, 05:41:30 AM »

And do you know the four nations of the United Kingdom?
I don't think you understood a word of my post. Probably a translation issue.

From the way I read it, you consider a nation and a country to be exactly the same.
As in, the word "country" can be used in that sense, much as the word "nation". Certainly a Castilian thinking "nation" for Catalunya is okay but "country" is not wouldn't happen without translation issues. Other way round makes more sense, actually, "country" being the older word that predates modern nationalism.

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« Reply #191 on: July 23, 2011, 10:21:40 AM »

And do you know the four nations of the United Kingdom?
I don't think you understood a word of my post. Probably a translation issue.

From the way I read it, you consider a nation and a country to be exactly the same.
As in, the word "country" can be used in that sense, much as the word "nation". Certainly a Castilian thinking "nation" for Catalunya is okay but "country" is not wouldn't happen without translation issues. Other way round makes more sense, actually, "country" being the older word that predates modern nationalism.



Hmm?  I've always learned "country" is one with actual borders, while "nation" can transcend country boundaries.
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« Reply #192 on: July 23, 2011, 10:27:38 AM »

Excellent thread hijack Tongue
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« Reply #193 on: July 23, 2011, 12:54:52 PM »

Stop taking about Spain! Wisconsin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOYus1BE7jk
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« Reply #194 on: July 23, 2011, 01:46:39 PM »

"Daily Kos is polling three more Wisconsin recalls this weekend, the seats held by GOP Sens. Olsen, Darling & Cowles."

http://twitter.com/#!/DKElections/status/94808079849357312
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« Reply #195 on: July 25, 2011, 07:55:38 PM »

The polls will be out tomorrow; Kos has teased them thusly:

"Got new Wisc polling. Big picture: Dems up big in one, up narrowly in two, trail by less than 5 in three. It's CLOSE. Need 3 to win"

Kapanke is down by 14, and Hopper is down by 3. I'm guessing Olsen is going to be down by 2-3, Darling is going to be ahead by 2-3, and Cowles is going to be ahead by 4-5.
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« Reply #196 on: July 25, 2011, 09:30:10 PM »

Democrats are better off if Darling wins in SD-08, since that seat is made unwinnable for Democrats in redistricting.  If Pasch wins, she will only be there for 15 months. 
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« Reply #197 on: July 26, 2011, 05:59:31 AM »

They're "better" for winning an unwinnable seat? ugh. Sometimes, you make no sense at all.
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« Reply #198 on: July 26, 2011, 08:02:43 AM »

Hmm?  I've always learned "country" is one with actual borders.
Yes, absolutely. Which is why I excempted that other def. of "nation". They don't need to currently be primary borders.

Of course, here in Germany we call our states "countries", so... Grin
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« Reply #199 on: July 26, 2011, 04:18:17 PM »

    STATE SENATE – WISCONSIN – SD14 (PPP/DKos)
    Fred Clark (D) 49%
    Luther Olsen (R-inc) 47%

    STATE SENATE – WISCONSIN – SD2 (PPP/DKos)
    Rob Cowles (R-inc) 51%
    Nancy Nusbaum (D) 47%

    STATE SENATE – WISCONSIN – SD8 (PPP/DKos)
    Alberta Darling (R-inc) 52%
    Sandy Pasch (D) 47

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/07/26/999005/-Wisconsin-Recall:-New-polling-shows-Democratic-lead-in-one-race,-two-moreracestight?via=blog_1
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