Wisconsin Senate Recall-a-palooza: 2012 Edition

[minionofmidas]

If they think they can get the fake Democrats to withdraw by threatening that, then they haven't fully understood the situation.

[minionofmidas]

Where is the 8th district located?

[minionofmidas]

Was Phil's comment intended to be a joke? Was it supposed to be a swipe at me? I'm confused.

I don't think he draws a clear distinction between these two concepts.
More a joke, though.

It's much more practical than waiting for that damn pigeon.

The Mafiosi don't like those pigeons either. It's just that Ghost Dog refuses to communicate with Louie by any other channel.

[minionofmidas]

It is, of course, an entirely untrue statement. The country of Catalunya is not an independent country.

Kinda like Sicily, then. Or Hawaii. Or the GDR.

As to the burning down part, I don't get the reference.

[minionofmidas]

Catalunya could be called a Nation, but not a country.

Exact same thing.
Unless we'd be talking about a "nation" without clearly defined boundaries, ie an ethnic group. But we aren't.

[minionofmidas]

And do you know the four nations of the United Kingdom?

I don't think you understood a word of my post. Probably a translation issue.

[minionofmidas]

And do you know the four nations of the United Kingdom?

I don't think you understood a word of my post. Probably a translation issue.

From the way I read it, you consider a nation and a country to be exactly the same.

As in, the word "country" can be used in that sense, much as the word "nation". Certainly a Castilian thinking "nation" for Catalunya is okay but "country" is not wouldn't happen without translation issues. Other way round makes more sense, actually, "country" being the older word that predates modern nationalism.

[minionofmidas]

Hmm?  I've always learned "country" is one with actual borders.

Yes, absolutely. Which is why I excempted that other def. of "nation". They don't need to currently be primary borders.

Of course, here in Germany we call our states "countries", so...

[minionofmidas]

Kim Simac, Republican challenger to Sen. Holperin, compared public education to the Nazis.

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Indeed, at what point will such idiots as this one stop?

[minionofmidas]

'Kinda changing topics, but if Democrats take both chambers and defeat Walker by 2013, what are the odds of a mid-decade redistricting?

Given that Republicans somewhat threw away their trifecta here... not as high as they might be.

[minionofmidas]

So Dems need to sweep the Hooper-Olsen-Harsdorf races to take control, right (I'm assuming Kapanke is finished and the other Republicans are safe)?

Nope, two plus Kapanke.
Nobody ever talks about Cowles, so I assume he's as safe as the two Democrats are. Darling might be safe, might not, much like Harsdorf.

[minionofmidas]

Two seats flipping was really the over/under here. Losing but one would have been a Republican moral victory, three (obviously) a major victory for Democrats.

Oh yeah, only thing remotely surprising is Harsdorf's margin. About the final results that is, maybe there's more in a county breakdown.

[minionofmidas]

Pretty obvious disconnect between the first three and the last three here.

Real Wisconsin is only in the first three districts, of course.

[minionofmidas]

Wait, is there any difference?

[minionofmidas]

Yeah, having a new set of voters recall someone that a different set of voters elected is pretty obviously not a fair thing.

Having two Senate maps in place at the same time is pretty obviously not a fair thing no matter what. The scenario here just shows off the absurdity a little clearer.