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« Reply #100 on: January 04, 2012, 04:27:48 AM »

BUMP!
I want to see Bentsen's Second Term!
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« Reply #101 on: February 01, 2012, 09:26:59 PM »

Bentsen would focus primarily on trade and inter-American activities during his second term. Free trade, a long standing tradition of the Democratic Party since the days of its founding (though not always agreed upon), would become a big issue for the Texan's second term. In order to "advance America into a post-Cold War world" and at the same time build America's diplomacy and global strength, Bentsen engineered a trade pact with the quickly reforming Russia. At the same time, he, with several other American leaders, crafted IATP, the Inter-American Trade Pact, which declared trade between all countries of the Americas to be completely tariff free. Bentsen saw it as a great moment to expand America's economy by creating lower prices domestically. "Republicans, as usual, will argue for protectionism. What they don't see is that lower prices here, by means of purchasing goods manufactured elsewhere, creates a better economy at home, making it easier to open up markets here and all around a better business environment." His opponents, however, didn't see it that way, and even Vice-President Casey voiced some concern. However, the Pact was ratified.

1992
With twelve years of Democratic rule coming to a close, the so-called Kennedy-Bentsen era, the country was all in all satisfied. However, they were looking for new leadership and a new Progressive spirit took hold of the country. With a drive for progress being affordable in good economic times, ironically, the Democrats were hurt. In the Republican field, the aging Tom Bradley, by far the favorite, was beaten out in the primaries by the campaign of the young, energetic, and favorite of labor Congresswoman Hillary Rodham of Illinois. Rodham came from a working class Chicago family and had decided to join with the Republicans in 1964 and 1968. She had worked for the Mondale campaign in 1976 and in 1978 had been elected to the State Senate. By 1982 she had been elected to the U.S. Congress. Despite charges of not being experienced enough, the savvy Rodham had been able to outdo the financially unstoppable Bradley campaign. Rodham chose Senator Tom Daschle of South Dakota to please the Western wing of the party. For the Democrats, Vice-President Bob Casey just barely survived a challenge by Senator Paul Tsongas of Massachusetts of the libertarian/liberal wing of the party. In order to unite the party, and also in an effort to beat out Rodham in her strongest spot--the industrial mid-west and north-east, Casey chose Tsongas for Vice-President.

Congresswoman Hillary Rodham (R-IL)/Senator Tom Daschle (R-SD) 299 electoral votes, 49.7% of the popular vote
Vice-President Robert P. Casey (D-PA)/Senator Paul Tsongas (D-MA) 239 electoral votes

The first Republican elected in sixteen years, the first labor backed Republican to be elected since 1968, and of course the first female President, "Hillary" as she was called, went straight to business. Moderate on economics but at the same time a favorite of labor, she increased the top federal income tax brackets, lowered middle and lower class taxes, and went about trying to re-instate protectionism. However, the IATP was a monster to repeal and would severely damage inter-American relations, and the trade pact with Russia was crucial to U.S. plans to eventually completely surround China with enemies and break it. However, on the matters of trade to Indo-China and Africa, Hillary was firmly against. "The Democrats would love to see their billionaire friends mass produce toys that say "Made in Vietnam" on them. Heck, they'll even bill it as vital to national security that through this selling out of American manufacturing, we're somehow strengthening Vietnam against China. Well I'll tell you, we can strengthen South-East Asia against China without compromising America's industry, the industry which was the dream of every Republican since this party was formed nearly 140 years ago."

1996
Hillary was as popular as ever come 1996 and she faced no challenge. Meanwhile, however, the Democrats were in chaos. Among the candidates running were Senator Paul Tsongas of Massachusetts, Governor John F. Kerry of Massacusetts, Bentsen protege Senator Bill Clinton of Arkansas--who had made his reputation as Senate Minority Whip and a chief opponent of Rodham's economic agenda, and former White House Communications Director Patrick J. Buchanan--who had worked under the Jackson, Kennedy, and Bentsen administrations as an advisor and assistant. In Iowa, Clinton's rural appeal him the Western and Southern caucuses, assuring him the nomination, whereas Tsongas came in second with New England. With that, Bill Clinton became the Democratic nominee, choosing Nevada Governor Bob Miller for Vice-President.

President Hillary Rodham (R-IL)/Vice-President Tom Daschle (R-SD) 388 electoral votes, 54.7% of the popular vote
Senator William J. "Bill" Clinton (D-AR)/Governor Robert Miller (D-NV) 150 electoral votes, 44.9% of the popular vote

Strangely enough, despite Republican gains in Appalachia, and taking Industrial states by huge margins and the re-taking of New England, Democrats were the ones to make gains in the West, taking Arizona, Nevada, and Montana. Soon and very soon, America was up for a geographical and political re-alignment, reminiscent much more of the 1890's than that of recent decades.
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« Reply #102 on: February 01, 2012, 11:42:50 PM »

In this timeline, are the Democrats or the Republicans the 'left' party?
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« Reply #103 on: February 02, 2012, 12:48:49 AM »

Holy sh^t!  Hilldawg vs. Slick Willy Surprise
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« Reply #104 on: February 02, 2012, 06:57:26 PM »

In this timeline, are the Democrats or the Republicans the 'left' party?

Guess. Wink Which side has raised up progressive icons & which has raised up conservative ones?

Holy sh^t!  Hilldawg vs. Slick Willy Surprise

Ya. I didn't decide to do that 'til I got to 1996 & thought "hey..." Not all of the ironies are intentional. A lot of the time I get lucky.

I may update tonight.
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« Reply #105 on: February 02, 2012, 07:46:46 PM »

Hillary's second term would be marked by foreign policy. Having won re-election with labor's support and support for a good economy, her focus was nevertheless soon turned away by larger, more pressing issues. Iraq, a long-time rival of the neighboring Iran and a Chinese ally, commenced with the invasion of Iran and the beginning of the Iran-Iraq War in December, 1996. Iran and its royal family had long been allies of the United States and the world soon found itself drawing in on a proxy-war. Iraq drew its allies from heavily anti-Western quarters that, despite not being supporters of communism, saw the West as a greater threat. Meanwhile, Iran received monetary and weapon support from the reforming Russia, from India, and the United States. Rodham was determined to turn the proxy-war into the war that defeated Communist China. With Chinese tanks rolling into the fight, America itself soon mobilized. While no formal declaration of war was granted, to the American public, the government, and the world, the country was clearly in a state of war. By the summer of 1997, the United States was embroiled in what would become one of the greatest foreign policy achievements of the century. With American and Chinese forces continually upping the ante between the two countries, it was clearly obvious that it was a matter of who had the most money and men to lose. Sadly for China, it was not them. With Russia coming in on the side of the West and India also backing Iran, Iraq was beaten back by August and on September 11th, the Iraq-Iran peace accords were signed by both nations. At the signing, President Rodham spoke, claiming "these two countries, and the entire world, will forever remember the historic date of September 11th." However, the conflict did not end there. Instead, it wound its way into a series of negotiations between the United States and China. While Hillary hadn't expected to be a foreign policy President, aided by State Secretary William E. Cohen, she found herself surprisingly adept at it. Rodham's approvals sat in the sixties for the rest of 1997 and 1998. "It's a shame this didn't happen before the election", she whispered to Chief of Staff Barack Obama, "We would've crushed that adultering bastard Clinton in one of the biggest landslides in this nation's history."

2000
With a good economy and foreign policy success, the Republicans were expected to win by large margins in 2000. However, a bloody primary between Texas Governor George W. Bush, West Virginia Senator Jay Rockefeller, and Vice-President Tom Daschle badly split the party. Despite difficulties, Daschle emerged the winner, choosing Bush for Vice-President to try to help in the West. Meanwhile, the Republicans nominated former Governor Bob Miller of Nevada for President and Congressman Newton L. Gingrich of George for Vice-President. Despite some moderation on social issues by the head of the ticket, the economic platform was staunchly conservative. Meanwhile, from the middle of the nation's political spectrum came a cry. Admiral John McCain III, a naval hero of the country's most recent conflicts, tracing back to the 1960's, announced an independent bid. McCain, a former moderate Democrat who had supported them in 1992 and previously, focused mostly on the issues of the gap between the rich and poor, campaign finance reform, and foreign policy. Attracting a large following, McCain was proving to be a spoiler for what seemed a pretty straightforward election. McCain chose former Governor John F. Kerry of Massachusetts for Vice-President. Kerry, a member of the more labor friendly populist wing of the Democratic party that had twice been denied the nomination in 1996 and 2000, agreed to split from what he saw as the rise of the "Radical Republicans and Business Democrats".

Vice-President Tom Daschle (R-SD)/Governor George W. Bush (R-TX) 278 electoral votes, 36.7% of the popular vote
Former Governor Robert Miller (D-NV)/Congressman Newton L. Gingrich (D-GA) 178 electoral votes31.3% of the popular vote
Admiral John S. McCain III (I-VA)/Former Governor John F. Kerry (I-MA) 82 electoral votes, 21.3% of the popular vote
Others: .7% of the popular vote

With that, Republicans were able to win a third term, but just barely, and the election would be filled with controversy from bitter Democrats for decades, who pointed out that the majority of McCain's support came from the Scots-Irish of Appalachia--a Democratic voting block, from the West where Democrats were gaining ground, and from Industrial workers which in the election were previously split fifty/fifty. And so began the twenty-first century, the first decade of which would be referred to as the "era of weakness" by historians from the Right and Left.
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« Reply #106 on: February 03, 2012, 04:27:58 PM »

Daschle took office with his party holding a good majority in both Houses of Congress. With this, many Progressives expected that it would be an era of reform and progressive triumphs. "We have spent the last eight years securing this country for middle and working America", stated the new President in his inaugural address, "Now we have come to the second step, ensuring that what we have secured is little less than the best." With this he set forth with a vastly liberal agenda that inflamed Democratic passions in Congress but only satisfied the Republicans. It involved ensured healthcare for the entire nation, with a specific focus on families and children. As well, he produced a number of transportation bills. "When we established the inter-state system under Tom Dewey, that was intended to last fifty years. Now has come the time to renew it. However, what Daschle was trying to pass was far more expansive than even some Republicans wanted. It involved billions going towards bridge and road repair, and millions in expanding roads. Despite Daschle's experience haggling with Congress, having risen in Senate ranks by his selection as Vice-President, some of his plans proved too far reaching. "Under President Rodham, we achieved a balanced budget while still championing the causes of the middle and lower classes. It seems that we have abandoned the ideals of a balanced budget and instead have the strategy of leaving that up to the next generation." spoke Republican Senator Max Baucus of Montana. The aging Senator who by many had become seen as only a retreiver of infrastructure spending for his state, had become the leader in the charge by more moderate Republicans against Baucus' plans. Meanwhile, the Democrats were enough to shoot down parts of Daschle's health care plans, making the entire package unpopular.
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« Reply #107 on: February 05, 2012, 09:07:51 AM »

2004
While Daschle was able to quickly secure re-nomination, the Democrats faced a much bloodier battle. Congressman Newt Gingrich, the leader of House Democrats against Daschle and the 2000 Vice-Presidential nominee, found challenges from Senator Brian Schweitzer of Montana and Governor Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania. Schweitzer represented a growing Western wing, Santorum represented the blue collar Casey wing, and Gingrich represented the traditional Southern Democrats. The three contenders duked it out over the course of a number of primaries and caucuses. However, Gingrich's name recognition and visibility since 2000 put him over the top with key primaries in states like Indiana, West Virginia, and California. Gingrich viewed the Casey wing as dying and chose to instead Schweitzer for Vice-President. With the tides turned against Daschle and the Republicans, Gingrich was able to pull off an upset victory.

Congressman Newton L. Gingrich (D-GA)/Senator Brian Schweitzer (D-MT) 317 electoral votes, 49.8% of the popular vote
President Thomas Daschle (R-SD)/Vice-President George W. Bush (R-TX) 221 electoral votes, 49.6% of the popular vote

Gingrich took office proclaiming a return to the balanced budgets of the nineties. However, he too would face his fair share of trials. The first came from new Senator Barack Obama of Illinois. A Clinton protege who had peaked in his power under her as White House Chief of Staff in her second term, he had returned to Illinois to build a political organization based on his mentor's. Come 2004, he had gained enough name recognition and media talk to launch a successful Senate campaign, replacing retiring Republican Senator Carol Mosley Braun. Obama, despite being only days into his first term, gave a stirring speech in defense of many of the unsuccessful items on Daschle's agenda and promised to "defend and keep Middle America, as Presidents Rodham and Daschle attempted to do before me." Gingrich, who had been a thorn in Rodham's side all eight years, was receiving his payback. However, the item to sink his Presidency was unearthed in 2006 with the revelation of not just one but several extra-marital affairs that the President was having inside and outside the Presidency. With Gringrich being known for talking about "family values", the President was ridiculed by the media. Throughout 2007, rumors started to die down until several of the President's mistresses came forward in the summer. With that, many suggested the President resign and allow Vice-President Schweitzer to take over. At last, the President relented, "for the good of the party and the country" and stepped down on September 9th, 2007. With that, President Schweitzer was left to pick up the pieces of the Presidency and the 2008 Democratic campaign.

2008
President Schweitzer faced no challenge for the nomination, leaving him able to put money towards the general election. The Vice-Presidential nominee went to Senator Al Gore of Tennessee. However, the Republicans, much like the Democrats four years earlier, were facing a long and bloody primary. The main contenders were former Vice-President George W. Bush of Texas, Senator Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia, Senator Paul Wellstone of Minnesota, and Governor William Weld of New York. The primaries began with quite a few close victories for all the contenders. However, after a string of victories in the Rural and Industrial Mid-West, Wellstone--also a member of Minnesota's Farmer Labor Party--found himself the nominee. With calls for a cautious foreign policy, and a pro-working class domestic platform, the Republicans set out to win. For Vice-President, Bill Weld was nominated to appease the socially liberal New Englanders.

Senator Paul Wellstone (R-MN)/Governor William Weld (R-NY) 359 electoral votes, 52.3% of the popular vote
President Brian Schweitser (D-MT)/Senator Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN) 179 electoral votes, 47.1% of the popular vote

Wellstone took office with much popularity. Promising an end to the spirit of economic and social de-regulation that had taken place over the last four years, and a much less aggressive foreign policy, he soon went about attempting to finish Daschle's healthcare projects as well as work on new regulations and programs to help what had been his main constituency in Minnesota: Farmers and Laborers. However, all of Wellstone's work came to an end on October 25th, 2009, when the President died in a storm while Air Force One was over the Atlantic Ocean. He, the First Lady, and his daughter Marcia Wellstone where reported missing and never found. After a long period of national mourning and much searching, William Weld took the Oath of Office. However, Weld was no great champion for the working man. Much more socially liberal and much more economically moderate, he focused on compromising with the Democrats in Congress in order to pass some of Wellstone's initiatives. He fast found himself losing the support of his own party and many times he could be seen crossing party lines in order to pass things such as his initiative to clean out inefficiency in the federal government.

2012
President Weld entered the 2012 primaries facing a large challenge in the form of former Vice-President Bush. Bush, unlike his father and grand-father, seemed to have embraced the way the Republican Party was turning. Having adopted pro-family and economically moderate to liberal stances while campaigning in Texas during the nineties, he soon took those to the national stage."This joker wants to be a new Teddy Roosevelt", said the President to Treasury Secretary Mitt Romney as he looked over a picture of his cowboy boot wearing opponent, "well I'll kick this joker's ass." This proved not to be true as "Dubya" went about winning a number of Western, Mid-Western, and Southern primaries. Weld had to suffice with winning states on the two coasts, Wisconsin, and Illinois. However, at the convention, Wellstone quickly used establishment contacts to swing delegates from states like Kansas, South Dakota, Indiana, Ohio, and Pennsylvania his way and was re-nominated narrowly on the first ballot. the convention chose Senator Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia for Vice-President.

The Democrats, however, seemed unified when their candidate emerged. Former President Schweitzer of Montana entered the race after a divided field split the first few primaries. Within weeks, the party was unified and ready to face the belleagured Republicans on the field of battle.

Former President Brian Schweitzer (D-MT)/Governor Robert Casey Jr. (D-PA) 447 electoral votes, 56.2% of the popular vote
President William Weld (R-NY)/Senator John D. Rockefeller IV (R-WV) 91 electoral votes, 43.2% of the popular vote
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« Reply #108 on: February 05, 2012, 09:13:22 AM »

List of Presidents of the United States
27. William Howard Taft (R-OH)/James Sherman (R-NY), Hiram Johnson (R-CA) 1909-1917
28. Hiram Johnson (R-CA)/Charles Evan Hughed (R-NY) 1917-1921

29. Henry Ford (D-MI)/Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY) 1921-1922
30. Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY)/vacant, John W. Davis (D-WV) 1922-1929
31. John W. Davis (D-WV)/Alfred E. Smith (D-NY) 1929-1933

32. William E. Borah (R-ID)/Joseph France (R-MD) 1933-1941
33. Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY)/Cordell Hull (D-TN) 1941-1945
34. James Farley  (D-NY)/Harry S. Truman (D-MO) 1945-1953

35. Thomas Dewey (R-NY)/Wayne Morse (R-OR) 1953-1961
36. Wayne Morse (R-OR)/Jacob Javits (R-NY) 1961-1963
37. Jacob Javits (R-NY)/vacant, George Bush (R-TX) 1963-1969

38. Henry M. Jackson (D-WA)/George Smathers (D-FL) 1969-1977
39. Mark O. Hatfield (R-OR)/Gerald R. Ford (R-MI) 1977-1981
40. Robert F. Kennedy (D-NY)/Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX) 1981-1987
41. Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX)/vacant, Jimmy Carter (D-GA), Robert P. Casey (D-PA) 1987-1993

42. Hillary Rodham (R-IL)/Tom Daschle (R-SD) 1993-2001
43. Tom Daschle (R-SD)/George W. Bush (R-TX) 2001-2005

44. Newton L. Gingrich (D-GA)/Brian Schweitzer (D-MT) 2005-2007
45. Brian Schweitzer (D-MT)/vacant, Al D'Amoto (D-NY) 2007-2009

46. Paul Wellstone (R-MN)/William Weld (R-NY) 2009
47. William Weld (R-NY)/vacant, Howard Dean (R-VT) 2009-2013

48. Brian Schweitzer (D-MT)/Robert P. Casey Jr. (D-PA) 2013-?
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« Reply #109 on: February 06, 2012, 06:16:35 AM »

Interesting that apart from Gingrich, all the post-Hatfield presidents were all Democrats irl.
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« Reply #110 on: February 06, 2012, 06:59:33 AM »

William Weld is a Republican.
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« Reply #111 on: February 29, 2012, 09:23:49 PM »
« Edited: March 02, 2012, 08:03:19 PM by Reactionarycon »

The The Last Seconds of Freedom
"Following the radicalism of the 1910's, America knew it was under seige, and the people responded as would any people realizing that their fiercest enemy was at their doorstep. They turned to the government, and we, well we responded in kind."
-The Last Best Hope, J. Edgar Hoover


Attorney General Alexander Mitchell Palmer (D-PA)/Assistant Secretary of the Navy Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-PA) 273 electoral votes
Senator Warren G. Harding (R-OH)/Senator Irvine Lenroot (R-WI) 258 electoral votes
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« Reply #112 on: February 29, 2012, 11:11:01 PM »

Looking forward to a Palmer Presidency and its aftermath.
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« Reply #113 on: March 01, 2012, 12:27:23 AM »

Looking forward to a Palmer Presidency and its aftermath.

Who? I'd like to see a John Palmer presidency in 1896
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« Reply #114 on: March 02, 2012, 04:11:47 PM »

Looking forward to a Palmer Presidency and its aftermath.

Who? I'd like to see a John Palmer presidency in 1896

ALexander Mitchell Palmer was Wilson's Attorney General in his last few years in office. From what I recall, he led a number of raids on suspected traitors and anarchists and whatnot during his time in office and he was also one of J. Edgar Hoover's mentors.
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« Reply #115 on: March 02, 2012, 04:31:47 PM »


Alexander Mitchell Palmer took office on March 4th, 1921, becoming the 29th President of the United States. Finding the nation still in the post-war recession and one that many people credited to the Democrats--Palmer had only won the electoral, not the popular vote--Palmer soon turned to blaming anarchists and even immigrants for the nation's woes and now used the constitutional amendment instituting prohibition as another tool of law enforcement. One of marks of his Presidency that seemed to have a positive note were his attempts to appeal to organized labor. He refused to use the government against labor strikes and went to great lengths to break up the "McKinley Coalition" that had been in place since 1896.

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Secretary of State: William G. McAdoo
Attorney General: John W. Davis
Secretary of War: Newton D. Baker
Secretary of the Navy: Franklin D. Roosevelt
Secretary of Agriculture: Charles W. Bryan
Secretary of Labor: James Cox
Deputy Head of the Burea of Investigation: J. Edgar Hoover

In 1922, the Republicans made massive gains in the House of Representatives and the  Senate, nearly as much as had been made in 1920. It was obvious that the Palmer Presidency was in danger of ending earlier than the President wanted it. However, it would end sooner even than his opponents expected as an anarchist bomb exploded in the Bureau of Investigation while Palmer was visiting. This resulted in two political elevations as Franklin D. Roosevelt assumed the Presidency, and as J. Edgar Hoover became Director of the Burea of Investigation in 1923.


The young Roosevelt, one of the scions of one of the nation's most prominent political families, quickly went to work attempting to right the economic problems of the country. Like his cousin, he put forth a Deal to the American people, referring to it as a New Deal for them. Working with Progressive Republicans and keeping every member of his party in line, he passed major public works projects. This jolt to the economy was enough to raise his prospects for re-election. However, the assault on America's perceived enemies did continue as he repeatedly would defend them, saying they were "necessary to protect America from radicalism and socialism". His new Attorney General, Joseph V. McKee--an ally from New York--aimed the federal sights on Tammanny Hall, which would win him alies with some of the Progressive Republicans, but alienate him from his own North-Eastern Democrats. Going into mid-1924, the election geared up and the President would find himself in a three-way race for re-election.
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« Reply #116 on: March 02, 2012, 08:46:27 PM »

1924

The Democratic Nomination
From the North-East hailed the Tammanny Opposition as it was called. Lead by former one-term Governor of New York Alfred E. Smith, who, despite his losses in New York in 1920 and 1922, garnered significant support from Catholics, urban Liberals, Lutherans, and oppositions of prohibition. However, this mattered little at the convention.

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Blue-President Franklin D. Roosevelt of New York
Yellow-Secretary of State William G. McAdoo of California
Red-former Governor Alfred E. Smith of New York
Green-Governor Charles W. Bryan of Nebraska

At the convention, Smith's delegates were but a piddling compared to the President's and in fact Roosevelt's only worry was that his own Secretary of State, William McAdoo might rally the delegates in one last "Drop Roosevelt" attempt. However, no such movement occured and the convention was a coronation for the President, a man many Americans had mixed feelings about. The Vice-Presidential nomination surprisingly went to Arizona Governor George W. P. Hunt. A popular figure in Arizona, he was also a progressive on many issues and hopefully could appeal to Progressive Republicans and counter-act any talk among liberals about Roosevelt's Justice Department.


The Republican Nomination
The Republicans faced even more confusion as the primary season led to little signs of a clear front-runner for the nomination. Senators Howard K. Sutherland and John W. Weeks were perceived to be the best shots at capturing the White House, but Sutherland was quickly confined to the Mid-West while Weeks chose to bow out of the nominating process. At last a front-runner emerged on the first day of the convention when Governor Theodore Roosevelt Jr. of New York introduced the name of Governor Leonard Wood of New Hampshire. Wood was a friend of the late and elder Roosevelt and had been a contender for the nomination four years previous. However, after numerous ballots--beginning with Wood's near victory and ending with a sad decline for his hopes--Wood bowed out. At last, the convention chose one-term Governor Joseph P. Kennedy of Massachusetts for President. A recent convert to the party due to the Democrat's opposition to both Wall Street and to Catholics, Kennedy was not at first a popular choice. However, seeing the Democratic convention and the disappointment of urban Catholics, Kennedy was at last seen as a compromise between the business Republicans and their newfound strategy of appealing to those the Palmer and Roosevelt Administrations had alienated. Himself an outspoken opponent of socialism, there was little room to attack him on. For Vice-President, the Mid-West got their way and Howard Sutherland was nominated on the first ballot. The Republicans had their ticket, but not their unity.


The Progressive Nomination
While combining immigrants and business, and including the Mid-West in the deal--what many called an attempt at shocking the McKinley Coalition back to life--one part of the party had been forgotten, the Western Progressives. Whereas Republicans might have otherwise had the ability to shoot for a land-slide, the Progressives hurt the Republicans badly. Nominating Senator Robert LaFollette of Wisconsin and Senator George Norris of Nebraska, many were hoping the run could have a lasting impression or even win, given the choice of candidates the voters were presented with.


The General Election
The election of 1924 can be marked as one of the strangest in history for its forming of new coalitions, its closeness, its inclusion of a third party, and its controversy. Were it not heavily overshadowed by many of its successors, it would mark as one of great historical significance. In the North-East, there was a strange grouping of WASP Republican, pro-business newspapers and Tammany Hall-run, immigrant newspapers that turned into what Democrats labeled the "Kennedy Machine". The Democrats, on the other hand, combined with nativists and labor unions. "Protect the American Country and its Worker" became a common Democratic slogan. Roosevelt himself never engaged in these activities, staying in Washington for the most part. The boost to the economy was still being held up by infrastructure spending--especially in the South-West where Democrats were hoping to hold ground and make gains--and he was choosing to now focus on foreign policy. Meeting with the leaders of England and France, an alliance was made that, on the surface was meant to "keep peace in our time". Trumpeted as a success for FDR, behind closed doors it was a pact to keep both Soviet Russia and the now depressed but still angered Germany in their place. "We've got to make sure we're in charge" the President stated to the French Foreign Minister. On November 4th, 1924, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt was re-elected.


President Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY)/Governor George W. P. Hunt (D-AZ) 281 electoral votes
Governor Joseph P. Kennedy (R-MA)/Senator Howard Sutherland (R-WV) 191 electoral votes
Senator Robert LaFollette (P-WI)/Senator George Norris (P-NE) 59 electoral votes
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« Reply #117 on: March 05, 2012, 02:16:55 AM »

Neato!  Can you do a John Palmer 1896 TL next?
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« Reply #118 on: April 05, 2012, 09:15:05 AM »

Ending the current mini-tl to focus on a different one that's been chugging along in a different thread. Right now I don't feel like seriously updating any of my current timelines, so I may be concentrating just on this. It's an alternate version of my ongoing timeline "Where've you gone, General Washington?"


1789
With Washington stepping out of consideration following ratification of the Constitution, the main amount of support coalesces around John Adams, recently returned from Great Britain. It is agreed upon by the majority of electors that James Madison, one of the principle supporters and authors of the Constitution, will be elected Vice President.

Former Ambassador to Great Britain John Adams (Massachusetts) 62 electoral votes
Former Delegate to the Constitutional Convention James Madison (Virginia) 38 electoral votes
Governor John Hancock (Massachusetts) 11 electoral votes
General George Washington (Virginia) 8 electoral votes
Former Governor John Rutledge (South Carolina) 7 electoral votes
Governor George Clinton (New York) 6 electoral votes
Former Governor Edward Telfair (Georgia) 4 electoral votes
Former President of the Continental Congress Samuel Huntington (Connecticut) 3 electoral votes

1792
Among Adams' cabinet are Secretary of State John Jay, Treasury Secretary John Hancock, and Attorney General John Marshall. During his first term, President Adams presides over the federal bailout of the states in 1791--engineered by freshman Congressman Alexander Hamilton of New York, the creation of the cabinet and federal departments, passing of a number of pieces of legislation, and the establishment of the national capital on a peninsula in Maryland, overlooking the Potomac. In 1792, the Republican party forms, and Vice President James Madison, like Adams a centrist and a nationalist, is assaulted from both the right and the left for the Vice Presidency, but survives easily. Madison himself is a Republican, but not as severe as some of the fringe elements of his party might like him to be. President Adams, on the other hand, faces a minimal challenge to his Presidency, with a small number of electors voting for Senator (since 1791) Thomas Jefferson who himself isn't running.

President John Adams (Massachusetts) 116 electoral votes
Vice President James Madison (Republican-Virginia) 100 electoral votes
Secretary of State John Jay (New York) 22 electoral votes
Senator Thomas Jefferson (Republican-Virginia) 20 electoral votes
Governor George Clinton (Republican-New York) 6 electoral votes
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« Reply #119 on: April 05, 2012, 09:15:44 AM »

1796
Over Adams' second term, a number of things are accomplished, including creating the Department of the Navy, establishing a border with Spain in the South, and making peace with France following a short Quasi-War. In 1793 with the death of Treasury Secretary John Hancock, Adams appoints Congressman Alexander Hamilton of New York to the post. A brilliant mind, he continues the work he started in Congress, trying to build a strong national economy. In 1794, Hamilton is placed in charge of crushing the whiskey rebellion, a revolt against the newly passed excise taxes.

Come 1796, Adams absolutely refuses to run for another term given the past four years of the Senate being filled with debate over whether to go to war with France or with England. Instead, Vice President James Madison runs as a Republican with Massachusetts Governor Samuel Adams. Meanwhile, the Federalist party, begun by Hamilton, runs Hamilton himself as the leader of the party, and Supreme Court Associate Justice John Marshall. With the leading economic and legal minds of the Federalists, it is hoped they will win the first truly two-way Presidential election. However, the Republicans pull off a narrow victory.

Vice President James Madison (Republican-Virginia) 80 electoral votes
Governor Samuel Adams (Republican-Massachusetts) 70 electoral votes
Secretary of the Treasury Alexander Hamilton (Federalist-New York) 66 electoral votes
Associate Justice John Marshall (Federalist-Virginia) 46 electoral votes

Following election in 1796, Madison went about promising "A revolution as important and moving as our first, twenty years ago." In practice, however, he was much more pragmatic. He appointed Senator and mentor Thomas Jefferson to the position of Secretary of State, Pennsylvania Senator Albert Gallatin to Treasury, George Clinton as Attorney General, and in a surprise, John Quincy Adams Secretary of the Navy. Throughout his first year, the major focus would be on slowly down-sizing the army and cutting domestic taxes while at the same time strengthening the Navy, creating the Marine Corps, and keeping Hamilton's tariffs in place. Then, in early 1798, a number of Southern Native American tribes, namely the Creek and Cherokee, backed by the British and in collaboration with Tennessee Senator William Blount, attacked both Spanish and American settlements in the South-West of the country and South Florida. With Vice President Samuel Adams reading a letter written by Blount aloud on the Senate floor explaining the plan, the House and Senate voted to impeach and censure him. Soon, talk of war with the British began and nearly every Republican began calling for such a war, and some nationalist Federalists were beginning to agree. Over the past few years as America had secured peace with France, British attacks on American ships had continually escalated and now tensions seemed at a boiling point. In June of 1798, organized American retaliation against the Cherokee and Creek began. Lead by American military men and veterans of the North-West Indian Wars Andrew Jackson and William Clark, the Americans were effective in practically committing genocide. While historians would judge this as a grave over reaction, not much was thought of it at the time.

Internationally, Spain found itself considering and then going to war with France, and America was readying to come in on Spain's side. With the American Navy, growing stronger by the day, beginning retaliations against British ships on the North-Atlantic coast, war seemed imminent. In Spetember, 1798, American troops crossed from the North-West Territory into Canada. While met with resistance by a number of Indian tribes that had fled there following the North-West Indian Wars, Americans soon found themselves against Canadian troops instead. In October, a formal declaration of war was ratified against Britain and President Madison himself was escorted on one Naval mission and saw the sinking of some British ships firsthand. While in Canada, America seemed to be losing the land war, Madison soon re-strengthened the army and effective military leaders like Clark and Jackson were sent to work there. Thanks to the work of Adams and Madison, the Navy was strong and soon it seemed America was winning the Naval battle and was seeing a draw in the land war in Canada.

1800
With many New England Federalists publicly against war and some even siding with the British, the Federalists were given a bad name and were seen mainly as traitors. Therefore, few even allowed themselves to be drafted to run and in December, 1799, American troops had been forced to put down rebellions against the government in Connecticut and New Hampshire. By 1800, Madison was the hero of the nation and Federalists seen only as traitors and Anglophiles. The Federalists at last nominated two of the few respectable men left in their ranks, Former Secretary of State John Jay and Former Secretary of War Charles Pinckney. Hamilton and Marshall both absolutely refused to run, and Hamilton himself had led some of the military action against New England secessionists. For the Republicans, Madison was re-nominated without question and Senator Aaron Burr of New York was nominated as his running-mate.

President James Madison (Republican-Virginia) 107 electoral votes
Senator Aaron Burr (Republican-New York) 96 electoral votes
Former Secretary of State John Jay (Federalist-New York) 27 electoral votes
Former Secretary of War Charles Cotesworth Pinckney (Federalist-South Carolina) 24 electoral votes
Former Secretary of the Treasury Alexander Hamilton (Federalist-New York) 3 electoral votes

In Madison's second term, American continued the war with Great Britain. Despite fighting off both Indians and the British in Canada, America was able to make headway there, while on the sea, with the aid of the Spanish and utilization of privateers, America was able to hold its own. At last, Britain, Spain, and America came to the bargaining table. Waging a second war along with the war raging in Europe against the French had cost the Empire much, and they agreed to give away portions of Southern Canada in exchange for an end to hostilities. Meanwhile, Spain was left alone in Florida and even gave away portions of the territory Louisiana to America in thanks for their aid. Madison came out of the deal to be seen as one of America's all time greatest Presidents. Meanwhile, at home in places like New York, Pennsylvania, and Delaware, American Industry was expanding thanks to war-time American boycotts of English goods.

1804
The Republicans, surprised to see Madison refuse a third term, much in the tradition of Adams eight years earlier. Instead, Republicans nominated the hero of the negotiations with Britain and author of the Declaration of Independence, Secretary of State Thomas Jefferson. He was paired with incumbent Vice President Aaron Burr of New York. The Federalists, hoping to at least put out a good showing in order to recover from the debacle four years earlier, nominated Alexander Hamilton, who in 1801 was elected Governor of New York, and Ohio Governor Arthur St. Clair who had served as a military leader and Governor of the North-West Territory during what was now being called the Anglo-Indian War by America. St. Clair's record as Governor was questionable, but he was seen as a hero by the nation. Despite hard work by the Federalists, the Republicans secured a third term with ease.

Secretary of State Thomas Jefferson (Republican-Virginia) 98 electoral votes
Vice President Aaron Burr (Republican-New York) 90 electoral votes
Former Governor Alexander Hamilton (Federalist-New York) 78 electoral votes
Governor Arthur St. Clair (Federalist-Ohio) 78 electoral votes
President James Madison (Republican-Virginia) 8 electoral votes
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« Reply #120 on: April 05, 2012, 10:06:49 AM »

1808
Jefferson presided over, for the most part, an era of peacetime and prosperity. With industry bolstered following the Anglo-Canadian War and a feeling of great national pride by a majority of the nation (but for a few sulkers in New England), the time was dubbed an "Era of Good Feelings". During Jefferson's four years, a needed reform to the electoral system was passed, making it so a President and Vice President were elected together as opposed to the Vice Presidency going to the second place finisher in an election. In 1808, Jefferson declined another term and retired from politics. The election came between the Federalist, former New York Governor and war hero Alexander Hamilton, and the Republican, Vice President Aaron Burr.

Former Governor Alexander Hamilton (F-NY)/Former Secretary of War Charles Pinckney (F-SC) 104 electoral votes
Vice President Aaron Burr (R-NY)/Congressman Nathaniel Macon (R-NC) 70 electoral votes

Coming into office, Hamilton was the first President elected from the Federalist Party. The Republicans had held the office for twelve years and the Vice Presidency for twenty. Hamilton's cabinet would be filled with qualified individuals. Former Ambassador Governour Morris would be appointed Secretary of the Treasury while War Secretary and former Senator John Quincy Adams would head the State Department. The bulk of Hamilton's work would be on foreign policy. While Adams went about helping to expand America's landmass using diplomacy, Hamilton's eye would be on the economy. During his first year he chartered the National Bank, expanded infrastructure building, and raised tariffs back to their levels during the Adams Presidency. With the Panic of 1810 came Hamilton's first true test. The result of over-speculation and a contraction from the enormous growth experienced from 1802 to 1809 (the post-war boom), several companies found themselves in danger of going under even as families were evicted from their homes. Passing a bail-out of the companies within the first month following the Panic, Hamilton proceeded to lay out an economic recovery package that included the Federal Government buying up large pieces of failing companies and selling them to investors and better off companies. As well, the National Bank helped to fun the recovery and Hamilton was seen as a hero for it.

1812
The Republicans, for the first time out of the incumbency sine 1796, were unsure of who to nominate. With Hamilton's popularity following the Panic of 1810, people such as Senator James Monroe of Virginia--the likely heir to the Jefferson and Madison legacies, decided to sit the election out. Instead, the already weakened former Vice President Aaron Burr was put forth again, this time with little to no prospect of winning. In order to add some semblance of strength to the ticket, Monroe agreed to be nominated for Vice President. Because of geographical concerns, Hamilton's electoral ceiling had almost been reached four year earlier, and there was little room to expand. He did, however, narrowly take Kentucky thanks to the work of young Federalist, Speaker of the House Henry Clay and the various infrastructure projects Hamilton had sponsored out West.

President Alexander Hamilton (F-NY)/Former Senator John Eager Howard (F-MD) 148 electoral votes
Former Vice President Aaron Burr (R-NY)/Senator James Monroe (R-VA) 70 electoral votes

Hamilton's second term failed to go as smoothly as his first. While the economy did recover and industry was again chugging along, it failed to reach a large majority of Americans. As well, disputes inside D.C. doomed the Federalist party as arguments over funding of internal improvements, tariff levels, and foreign policy prepared to boil over. Hamilton had alienated a number of New England shippers who still seemed to side with the British and liked free trade in order to continue their business with America's former enemy. Despite this, Hamilton was also positioned against the Western Federalists, led by Henry Clay, who argued for more extensive internal improvements that reached the common man. Meanwhile, the Republicans themselves were arguing over whether to continue the Nationalist streak that Madison had started them on, or whether to pursue a more ideological path, one that hadn't helped them in the past. With the election of 1816 coming up, America's first two-party system was about to break up.
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« Reply #121 on: April 05, 2012, 10:37:48 AM »

1816
Despite the obvious, that being that the idealists of the party, under Aaron Burr, had failed to win an election, the party's fringe elements persisted that enough had been ceded to the Federalists, that not only did the National Bank have to go, but tariffs should be drastically lowered and internal improvements be halted. Rebelling against the obvious choice, Senator James Monroe, they instead nominated former Tennessee Governor and war hero Andrew Jackson. Despite his popularity, many of the Nationalists in the party were against the young firebrand. (of note is that Jackson as he aged and into the 1830's would become much more pragmatic and eventually join the emerging National party that emerged in this election). Meanwhile, the Federalists themselves were split three ways. New England elites were touting  Senator James Lloyd of Massachusetts, a state rival of another contender for the nomination, Secretary of State John Quincy Adams. Adams was supported by the center of the party and by Hamilton himself. The third faction was led by Henry Clay. The party finally split and Lloyd became the official nominee of the party. In one of the great re-aligning elections of the nation's history, the National Party was formed. With a ticket headed by James Monroe, completed by John Quincy Adams, and endorsed by Henry Clay, they called for Western expansion, a nationalist foreign policy, and moderation on economics, combining the economic platforms of the Republicans and Federalists.

Senator James Monroe (N-VA)/Secretary of State John Quincy Adams (N-MA) 124 electoral votes
Senator James Lloyd (F-MA)/Senator Rufus King (F-NY) 55 electoral votes
Former Governor Andrew Jackson (R-TN)/Senator William H. Crawford (R-GA) 42 electoral votes
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« Reply #122 on: April 06, 2012, 07:01:19 PM »

Where art thou getting these maps from waaay further back than the evcalc goes....?
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« Reply #123 on: April 06, 2012, 07:20:55 PM »

Where art thou getting these maps from waaay further back than the evcalc goes....?

Whenever you're given a map, you have to post its code for it to show up. You simply change some of the numbers representing color and electoral votes, and you can make makeshift maps. As well, if you edit the year, you can go back as far as 1824, though you have to make the restuls yourself.

I forget the order, but in the map code, the specifications for every state are listed in numbers. One represents color (0=gray, 1=red, 2=blue, 3=green, 4=yellow, 5=orange, 6+=white), one represents the amount of electoral votes the state has, and one represents the popular vote victory (5=>50%, 4=>40%, etc.). I think the order is color, ev's, pv.
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« Reply #124 on: April 21, 2012, 10:40:39 PM »

Monroe's Presidency saw the moderation of America into a much more centrist state. With the victory of the National Party over the Republicans and the Federalists, it seemed as if the nation was finally coming together. No longer would New England be fighting the South or there be a political battle between states rights and the federal government. The Era of Good Feelings was about to occur.

1820
While it seemed obvious to many that the Federalists and Republicans had been destroyed in one fell swoop in 1816, party loyalists were still willing to run candidates. Of note was that John Quincy Adams was being replaced on the bottom of the National ticket in order to take the position of Secretary of State.

President James Monroe (N-VA)/Ambassador Richard Rush (N-PA) 186 electoral votes
Senator Rufus King (F-NY)/Former Senator James Ross (F-PA) 26 electoral votes
Congressman John Floyd (R-VA)/Former Governor Andrew Jackson (R-TN) 23 electoral votes
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