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« on: March 16, 2011, 06:46:13 PM »

This is basically a place where I can do mini-timelines. I'll use it to do timelines that I'd like to get to but don't think I'd be able to. Also, I'll use it to test future ideas.

The first is going to be the original version of "Nixon 1960" just to kick it off. Sadly for the timeline, I got dragged off into trying to warp the party's ideologies and ended up with both parties nominating what in our timeline would've been Republicans.

This will combine elements of both as good ideas came from the version I put up on this website as well.
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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2011, 06:47:23 PM »

Nixon 1960
1960
In the 1960 Presidential election, Vice-President Nixon chose Congressman Gerald R Ford of Michigan for Vice-President in order to help him in the North-East, Mid-West, and the Great Lakes area. Senator John F Kennedy, the Democratic nominee, chose Senate Henry M Jackson as Vice-President in order to help him in the West and with military hawks.
The election was close, and the unrest among Southern delegates didn't help Kennedy as he was unable to carry all of the Deep South even.


Vice-President Richard M Nixon (R-CA)/Congressman Gerald R Ford (R-MI) 273 electoral votes, 48.6% of the popular vote
Senator John F Kennedy (D-MA)/Senator Henry M Jackson (D-WA) 249 electoral votes, 48.3% of the popular vote
Faithless electors (1 for Senator Barry Goldwater (R-AZ), and 14 for Senator Harry F Byrd) 15 electoral votes, .5% of the popular vote

During President Nixon's first term, his greatest accomplishments were in foreign policy. In Vietnam, a war between North and South Vietnam had been going on since the mid-fifties with President Eisenhower sending military advisers over there. Nixon, realizing that the United States might become more drawn in, chose to end the conflict right there with the nuking of North Vietnam. He had been advised by Secretary of Defense Goldwater, and Secretary of State Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. hadn't objected.

In Cuba, another hotspot, Operation Bay of Pigs proved to be a success. Ousting Castro, an interim government headed by former Treasury Secretary Robert P Anderson was set up and after the last of the communists were rooted out elections were planned for 1963 or 1964.

Nixon was also able to establish what become known as "eldercare", which used the free market to help pay for the the healthcare of the elderly.

1964
By 1964, Nixon's approval ratings were a solid 60%. The Democrats nominated Senate Majoriy Leader Lyndon B Johnson over Senator Henry Jackson, and Johnson chose Senator John F Kennedy for Vice-President in order to keep Northern Democrats in line. On election day "Landslide Lyndon" would lose in a landslide.

President Richard M Nixon (R-CA)/Vice-President Gerald R Ford (R-MI) 417 electoral votes, 59.3% of the popular vote
Senate Majority Leader Lynson B Johnson (D-TX)/Senator John F Kennedy (D-MA) 121 electoral votes, 40.2% of the popular vote

With Nixon's landslide re-election, other victories came too. In Texas, former Nixon Secretary of the Navy George Bush was elected to the Senate defeating Ralph Yarborough. In Ohio Congressman Robert Taft Jr. was elected to the Senate. In California former UN Ambassador Ronald Reagan was elected to the Senate. All in all Republicans were in the majority and in 1965 Hubert H Humphrey was elected Senate Minority Leader.

Only in Nixon's second term would things heat up. In 1965 war in Cambodia was made public. Since 1962 the Nixon Administration, through Director of Central Intelligence E Howard Hunt had been funding an insurgency against the neutral yet communist-leaning government there. However, only in 1966 did it become public. The American people, who had become accustomed to peace time, struck back with large Republican losses in the 1966 mid-terms.

As the war deepened, Nixon made only one serious accomplishment on the domestic front witht the passing of the 1967 Civil Rights Act which was a lot more effective than its 1950's counter-part.

1968
President Nixon's approval ratings were down to 43% in the beginning of 1968, though they picked up as the year went on.
The candidates for the Republican nomination included California Senator Ronald Reagan, Ohio Governor Jim Rhodes, New York Governor Nelson Rockefeller, and Oregon Senator Mark Hatfield. While there had been a calling for former Secretary of Defense Goldwater to run (he had resigned in 1966), he was instead running for Senate from Arizona. Rockefeller easily won the nomination, choosing Jim Rhodes for Vice-President. Vice-President Gerald Ford had declined running, instead choosing to run for Senate in 1970.
For the Democrats, the battle came down to Senator Henry M Jackson, Governor Robert F Kennedy, and Senator Hubert H Humphrey. After Governor Kennedy dropped out, Senator John F Kennedy announced his new endorsement of his former running mate Henry M Jackson. In exchange, Bobby would be placed at the bottom of the ticket.
In bad news for the Democrats, Governor George Wallace of Alabama announced an Independent ticket with General William Westmoreland as his running mate. They would run under the banner of the "American Party".

Senator Henry M "Scoop" Jackson (D-WA)/Governor Robert F Kennedy (D-MA) 302 electoral votes, 52.5% of the popular vote
Governor Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)/Governor James Rhodes (R-OH) 183 electoral votes, 43.2% of the popular vote
Former Governor George Wallace (A-AL)/General William Westmoreland (A-MS) 53 electoral votes, 14.1% of the popular vote

With the election of Henry Jackson, Democrats held the Whitehouse for the first time since January, 1953. He swept into office promising victory in Cambodia, the restoration of Law and Order, and new programs designed to help the poor.

By 1970, after a "troop surge" as well as the shipping over of 50,000 more American soldiers, it appeared that Cambodia would no longer be the quagmire that it had been denounced as by some in 1968.
Meanwhile, on the domestic front, Jackson was popular as well with his clear statement of Law and Order that the hippies had so come to despise. He also had Congress pass The American Infrastructure and Urban Renewal Project, handing over millions (later billions) of dollars to various departments to rebuild America's urban landscape as well as to rebuild and repair the miles of road sprawled throughout America. By 1971, Jackson was just as popular as his predecessor had been eight years ago.

1972
Despite an attempt to primary the President by Senator George McGovern, Jackson was easily re-nominated, as well as Vice-President Robert F Kennedy who at times was more popular than his own boss.
For the Republicans, former Senator and by that point Governor Reagan chose to stay out of the field that year as his friend Senator Barry Goldwater of Arizona ran for the nomination. To carry the banner for the moderates, Governors George Romney and Spiro T Agnew, and Senator Mark Hatfield were also candidates. Finally, representing the Liberal wing was Congressman Pete McCloskey and Senator Jacob Javitts.
Despite the fact that Goldwater had been involved in the US entrance into Cambodia, his record in Cuba and Vietnam, as well as Conservative aspirations won the day at the convention. In order to tie over moderates, former Governor George Romney was selected as his running mate.
In the general, Goldwater did worse than expected. His frequent gaffes, his ties to Nixon's failure in Cambodia, and Jackson's popularity were more than enough to ensure his loss. However, it seemed that Jackson's luck had gone into overkill as not only was victory announced in Cambodia, but in June of 1972 the United States became the first nation to set foot on the moon. That sealed the deal for Goldwater's electoral landslide that year.

President  Henry M "Scoop" Jackson (D-WA)/Vice-President Robert F Kennedy (D-MA) 532 electoral votes, 61.8% of the popular vote
Senator Barry Goldwater (R-AZ)/Former Governor George Romney (R-MI) 6 electoral votes, 37.9% of the popular vote

After Goldwater's devastating loss and President Jackson's monumental victory over him, Democrats beleived that the stage was set for years of victory ahead of them.
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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2011, 07:06:58 PM »

1976
With Jackson's approval ratings having decreased from 70% on election day to 49% by the beginning of 1976, the Democrats weren't the most enthusiastic party that year. However, Vice-President Robert F Kennedy's charisma and optimism was seen by many as a possible hope that could keep the Democrats going long enough to solve inflation. He was challenged by Senator George McGovern, Congressman Jerry Brown, former Governor Jimmy Carter, and Defense Secretary John Connally. However, Kennedy won the nomination, choosing Jimmy Carter to help with the South.
For the Republicans it was a hard fought fight between Governor Ronald Reagan of California, Senator and former Vice-President Gerald Ford of Michigan, and Senator Mark Hatfield of Oregon. However, Ford with the endorsements of Romney, Rockefeller, former Secretary of State Henry Cabot Lodge Jr., Senator Robert Finch of California, Senator George Bush and of Nixon himself, won the nomination. He chose Senator (and former friend in the Nixon Administration) George Bush for Vice-President.

The election eventually came down to one state. Illinois. As a Vice-Presidential candidate, Ford had helped Nixon to carry Illinois against a different Kennedy. Ford had a lot of popularity in Illinois and was especially popular in the more rural areas. However, Kennedy had mayor Richard J Daley working for him up-state in Chicago and that saved the day for Kennedy, winning it, but losing the popular vote.

Vice-President Robert F Kennedy (D-MA)/Former Governor James E Carter (D-GA) 273 electoral votes, 49.4% of the popular vote
Senator Gerald R Ford (R-MI)/Senator George Bush (R-TX) 265 electoral votes, 49.6% of the popular vote
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« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2011, 08:23:34 PM »

From the outset, Robert F Kennedy's tenure as President didn't go "swimmingly". Dealing with inflation and an incredible deficit which was the result of massive amounts of military and domestic spending alike, it was seen as his job to basically reign in government over the next four years. Starting with massive military programs, a large number were cut. In domestic spending, President Kennedy attempted to craft "Welfare Reform" to reform the entitlement system to actually lead to a path out of poverty as opposed to paying people to stay where they were. However, Kennedy was unable to see that dream lived out, for in 1978 he was assassinated by an unknown assailant.

Vice-President Jimmy Carter, upon hearing the final announcement that the President was indeed dead, took the Oath of Office. Not having the vision or charisma of his predecessor, Carter was just barely to push the first part of Welfare Reform through Congress. The only reason the Democrats were able to keep the Senate and House in 1978 was because of the death of President Kennedy and many predicted that had Kennedy not died, he might have faced a Republican controlled Congress in 1979.

The remained of Carter's term was spent attempting to deal with energy problems, the deficit, the economy, and the problem of Iran. Iran, heading OPEC, had decided to draw the reins tight on oil and had increased its prices dramatically. Many  believed it was because of very active and vocal support of Israel the last eighteen years. Failing to push his energy program through Congress was Carter's final failure before the Democratic primaries began.

1980
While some expected Ted Kennedy, who previously had served as Massachusetts Attorney General, Governor, and since 1976 Senator, to run, he declined. From Carter's right came former Defense Secretary John Connally, from the Liberal end came George McGovern, and from a more Libertarian-oriented wing of the party came Governor Jerry Brown, who had been elected in 1978. While Carter eventually won the nomination, the primaries had hurt him badly and put him in a worse position than before. In order to keep the Democratic base together, he selected Senator Ted Kennedy for Vice-President.

For the Republicans, the nomination was a fight between former Governor Reagan of California, Senator Lowell Weicker of Connecticut, Senator George Bush of Texas, and Senator Bob Dole of Kansas. Eventually, however, Reagan won. In order to help in the Mid-West, he selected Senator Donald Rumsfeld of Illinois who had been elected to Congress in 1962 and elected to the Senate in 1974. He was a friend of Senators Hatfield, Bush, Laxalt, and Dole, and had good relations with former Vice-President Ford.

In protest, the Progressive Senator Lowell Weicker announced an Independent candidacy, choosing Senator Charles Matthias Jr. as his running mate. The ticket severely harmed Reagan in the East. However, the Republicans would not be denied their first landslide since 1964.


Former Governor Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Senator Donald Rumsfeld (R-IL) 389 electoral votes, 49.3% of the popular vote
President James E Carter (D-GA)/Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA) 121 electoral votes, 40.2% of the popular vote
Senator Lowell P Weicker (I-CT)/Senator Charles "Mac" Matthias Jr. (I-MD) 28 electoral votes, 10.8% of the popular vote
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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2011, 06:25:21 AM »

Pretty Good so far. keep on going Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2011, 10:35:48 AM »

Pretty Good so far. keep on going Smiley

I agree-I wonder whats going to happen to this third party movement in 1984.
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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2011, 05:25:02 PM »

Despite having been elected in an electoral landslide, Reagan still had not won the popular vote and did not come in with much of a mandate despite Republicans having control of the Senate. He immediately set out working on the economy. One of his most controversial acts as President was the decision to keep Paul Volcker as Chairman of the Federal Reserve and continue the Kennedy-Carter policy of keeping a tight money supply. Many would say that this act saved his Presidency.

For Vice-President Rumsfeld, his assets were his experience on the House and Senate Armed Services Committee, his work on the House Space Committee, and his work on the Senate Energy Committee. In dealing with Iran, he helped draft a new energy plan taking from Carter's own plan as well as other proposals. It involved the opening of a new Alaskan pipeline scheduled to be completed in 1987, the opening up of verious parts of the shoreline for drilling, as well as government investment in new technologies. Despite the perceived failure of nuclear power in the 1970's with a disaster on three-mile island, Rumsfeld's plan would push for further nuclear investment but with even tighter regulations. It would be instrumental in helping to break OPEC's stranglehold on America's economy.

By 1983, many claimed that the economy had bottomed out and that it was from there on out a recovery. These claims proved to be true as the economy shot up in mid-late 1983 and into 1984.

1984
In the 1984 election, President Reagan faced only a weak challenge from Congressman John Anderson of Illinois, an established Liberal Republican who was endorsed by both Weicker and Matthias. However, after a failure to gain traction in North-Eastern primaries, Anderson dropped out.

For the Democrats, not many were willing to be the sacrificial lamb. Many called on Senator Ted Kennedy to run. However, he was unwilling to risk his political career on a year that Democrats would likely lose in. Senate Minority Leader Walter Mondale was the early favorite. However, the two economically moderate Senator Paul Tsongas was able to make headway. Despite having agreed with a large amount of President Reagan's policy proposals, the Democrats were tired of years of nominating economic Liberals such as Jackson and Johnson. Tsongas, who was compared by some to the last President Robert F Kennedy, was able to just barely take the nomination. He chose two-term Governor and former Congressman Jerry Brown for Vice-President who had endorsed him in the primaries for Vice-President.

President Ronald W Reagan (R-CA)/Vice-President Donald Rumsfeld (R-IL) 522 electoral votes, 59.3% of the popular vote
Senator Paul Tsongas (D-MA)/Governor Edmund G "Jerry" Brown Jr. (D-CA) 40.2% of the popular vote

With Reagan's landslide re-election, he felt compelled to finally carry out the rest of his policies. His popularity was only helped with the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1985 and fall of the Soviet Union in 1987.

As the Cold War was winding down, Vice-President Rumsfeld became an important factor in the Reagan Administration's attempts to close the deficit. His good fiscal record in the House and the Senate carried over to his Vice-Presidential duties as he became the head of Reagan's spend cutting team. Working with Senate Majority Leader George Bush and Senator Barry Goldwater, the Goldwater-Nichols Act was passed, not only re-organizing the military but also helping to cut costs. Domestically, not much headway was made. However, a number of government services were handed off to the states.

In space, Reagan found an unlikely ally in Senate Minority Whip Ted Kennedy in starting a program to put man on Mars by 2005. People from both sides of the aisle including former Governor Jerry Brown supported the program and it was voted on and confirmed in the fall of 1987.

1988
The 1988 Republican nomination was a battle between Vice-President Rumsfeld, Senate Majority Leader George Bush, Congressman Jack Kemp and one term Governor Clint Eastwood. Despite Eastwood winning in New Hampshire, Jack Kemp winning in Nevada, and George Bush winning in South Carolina, Rumsfeld carried the day, choosing Governor Eastwood in order to help in the West and with Libertarians who had been turned off by the Reagan deficits.

The Democrats, after their defeat in 1984, weren't in good shape just as the Republicans hadn't been in good shape after 1972. However, they didn't have the advantages of inflation and the deficit had lowered since 1976. The field was comprised of former Senator Gary Hart, Senate Minority Leader Walter Mondale, and the Southern candidate Al Gore of Tennessee. While Gore would carry the South and Hart would do well in the West, Mondale, who was a traditional Liberal, carried most states and the nomination. Ted Kennedy it seemed had resigned himself to a career in the Senate. For Vice-President, Mondale chose Congressman Julian Bond of Georgia to help with the South and with urban voters.

Vice-President Donald Rumsfeld (R-IL)/Governor Clinton Eastwood (R-CA) 343 electoral votes, 53.1% of the popular vote
Senate Minority Leader Walter Mondale (D-MN)/Congressman Julian Bond (D-GA) 195 electoral votes, 46.4% of the popular vote
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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2011, 07:26:34 PM »

Rumsfeld's term as President began uneventfully. His main goal at the beginning was to help close the deficit which had decresed in both 1987 and 1988. However, in late 1989, Under-Secretary of Defense Oliver North ran into a scandal involving the illegal selling of arms to Iraq in the Iran-Iraq war that had taken place from 1981 to 1988. This had happened during the Reagan Administration. However, Reagan as was seen had nothing to do with it. Rumsfeld who had taken an active interest in foreign policy and the Pentagon had been an overseer of many  operations and had been at more than one time referred to as "Actual Secretary of Defense". It turned out that United States funding to that day was going towards Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein who had been known for killing his won civilians, human rights violations, and ethnic cleansing. While in court nothing illegal was proven, it tainted the rest of Rumsfeld's Presidency and resulted in the resignations of Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney, DCI Bob Gates, and Under-Secretary of Defense Oliver North. Secretary of State George Bush, who himself had nothing to do with the scandal, stayed on.

Following the scandal, Vice-President Clint Eastwood who had not been involved in the scandal (most people considered guilty by the public were in the Pentagon or CIA) announced that while he would stay on as Vice-President for the remainder of his term, he would not be seeking re-election with a man who he said had "violated the trust of the American people and taken part in the funding of merciless dictatorships".

1992
For Rumsfeld, he faced a primary challenge from the non-interventionist Congressman Ron Paul who started off the primary season winning in New Hampshire and Nevada. However, his candidacy would not go far as Rumsfeld won South Carolina and all the primaries after that. For Vice-President Rumsfeld chose Senate Minority Leader Bob Dole was chosen.

For the Democrats, there were many willing to challenge the President such as former Governor Bob Kerrey of Nebraska, Senator Al Gore of Tennessee, and Governor Douglas Wilder of Virginia. However, Senator Joe Biden would win the nomination. He had first been elected to the Senate in the landslide year of 1972 and had stayed there since. For Vice-President, Senator Al Gore was chosen in order to bring in Southern states.

Senator Joseph Biden (D-DE)/Senator Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN) 347 electoral votes, 53.9% of the popular vote
President Donald Rumsfeld (R-IL)/Senate Minority Leader Robert Dole (R-KS) 191 electoral votes, 45.6 of the popular vote
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« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2011, 05:54:11 PM »

Joe Biden's first term started off with a "pledge to restore the confidence that the American people should have in government". Biden began with an attempt at a sweeping reform of the Pentagon and national defense related beaureas and departments. The reform included auditing and reviewing of all the functions and activites in the Pentagon and other key areas.

During the end of Rumsfeld's Presidency, the economy had begun veering towards a recession. Biden was determined to stop that, and with an economic stimulus package passed in the fall of 1993, it was believed by many that he had.

In the 1994 Congressional election, Conservatives failed in their attempted "counter-revolution". While Conservative media personalities and talk show hosts were talking about a "comeback bigger thatn 1978 and 1980", that comeback had failed. Biden retained control of both Houses of Congress and was able to continue pushing his agenda.

1996
Biden had the advantage of incumbancy on his side, as well as a reputation of honesty and openness while President. The downside of his re-election campaign was frequent gaffes and "stupid comments" he often made. Some even went as far as to compare his problem to that of Goldwater's. However, Goldwater's gaffes were much more politically harmful and radical-seeming. Biden had popularity and a good economy on his side.

For the Republicans, Vice-President Clint Eastwood, despite having "deserted" Rumsfeld in 1992 and having only six total years in political office (California Governor 1987-1989, Vice-President 1989-1993), was the favorite of the Libertarians, and of some moderates. He was endorsed by the then-California Governor Pete Wilson, Massachusetts Governor William Weld, and the "Texas Twins" of Congressmen Ron Paul and Ross Perot. Representing the more socially Conservative wing of the Republican Party were former NATO Ambassador Pat Buchanan (appointed by Reagan in 1987, left in 1990), and former Senate Minority Leader Bob Dole (who had also been the 1992 Vice-Presidential nominee. Both Dole and Eastwood fought for the "right to the throne" while Buchanan picked away at Dole with victories in the Southern primaries. Eventually, Dole dropped out and Eastwood won the nomination, choosing Texas Congressman Ron Paul as his running mate.

In protests, former Ambassador Buchanan announced a third party bid, with Congressman Bob Dornan as his Vice-Presidential pick. The ticket quickly gobbled up undecided Conservative Republicans in the south and, according to many, doomed Eastwood, though Conservatives would say that Eastwood wouldn't have won anyway.

While Democrats had good momentum going into the race and had strength in the South not felt since 1976, Eastwood quickly out-polled the Democrats in the West. Thus, what the Democrats had hoped for as their first landslide since 1972, ended up being less of an electoral margin of victory than four years before.

President Joseph R Biden (D-DE)/Vice-President Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN) 327 electoral votes, 54.2% of the popular vote
Former Vice-President Clinton Eastwood (R-CA)/Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX) 211 electoral votes, 44.3% of the popular vote
Former Ambassador Patrick J Buchanan (I-MD)/Congressman Robert K Dornan (I-CA), 1.3% of the popular vote
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« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2011, 06:07:52 PM »

I know where this is heading, and I love it! My guess is Ron Paul in 2000!!
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« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2011, 06:30:58 PM »

I know where this is heading, and I love it! My guess is Ron Paul in 2000!!

Sorry to disappoint you. Tongue However, I will admit, there is a certain timeline where Ron Paul will be President, and I may do it after this one.
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« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2011, 06:57:11 PM »

The remainder of Biden's Presidency went well. The only black mark on his Presidency was the resignation of Attorney General Bill Clinton over a sex scandal in 1998. He would be replaced by Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman.

During his last four years, the economy stayed stable. However, in 1998 the Republicans took control of Congress. Congressman and former Vice-Presidential candidate Ron Paul attempted a bid for Speaker. However, he was stopped by Congressman Jack Kemp who promised to serve only two years as Speaker before retirement in 2000.

2000
The Democrats easily nominated Vice-President Al Gore in a small field made up of the Vice-President, Congressman Dennis Kucinich, and Reverend Al Sharpton. For Vice-President, Gore chose Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle of South Dakota.

The Republicans instead had a very long and arduous primary season between former Treasury Secretary Elizabeth Dole (who had served in the Kennedy, Carter, Reagan, and Rumsfeld Administrations), Congressman Ron Paul, Senate Majority Leader John McCain, and Florida Governor Jeb Bush. In the crowded field McCain won the nomination as the major moderate candidate. He selected Illinois Governor Hillary Rodham, who was married but had not changed her last name. This became an issue in the campaign with social Conservatives but did not cause a third party Conservative ticket.

The only major Independent candidate was former Energy Secretary Ralph Nader who had been booted from Biden's administration in 1995 for, in Nader's own words, "working too hard to tell the truth". Biden's own reasons were because of Nader's "radicalism and far too extreme Liberalism". Nader selected Congressman Bernie Sanders of Vermont for Vice-President.


In the general, Nader was able to gain traction because of the moderation of the Democrats the last eight years. He pointed out that in 1996, the Republican ticket had been more socially Libertarian than the Democrats. This was helped with the fact that Al Gore was pro-life and was economically moderate and Biden had been a socially moderate President.

Vice-President Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN)/Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle (D-SD) 273 electoral votes, 49.2% of the popular vote
Senate Majority Leader John S McCain III (R-AZ)/Governor Hillary Rodham (R-IL) 266 electoral votes, 46.5% of the popular vote
Former Energy Secretary Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Congressman Bernard Sanders (G-VT) 3 electoral votes, 3.2% of the popular vote
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« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2011, 08:43:56 PM »

Al Gore's Presidency started off without event, and that's how it continued. The only thing that he would be known for was a failed attempt at a climate change and energy policy package in 2009. Despite slight Democratic gains in Congress in 2000, in 2002 Republicans came back even though hindered by scandals of top ranking Republicans such as former House Majority Leader Newt Gingrich and House Speaker Tom DeLay.

In terms of environmental policy, by 2002 even many Democrats claimed that Al Gore had "gone off the deep end". The focus of his Presidency mostly was on that though few bills made it out of sub-committee and even fewer were successful. What he had ended up promising in early 2001 to be "the main goal of my Presidency" had crashed to a grinding halt by 2004 and many on the Left saw him as a failure for that.

In 2003, the economy which had been very good from 1994 to 2002, took a turn for the worst and many Conservatives claimed that the economy was on "the road to a recession". By mid-2004 it appeared that the claims were true and Al Gore's attempt at a stimulus package fell short of passing Congress.

2004
Al Gore, who many had hoped would have his own legacy and accomplishments by 2004, was challenged for re-election from the Right and the Left of the party. From the Right and the "old school Democrats" came Georgia Senator Zell Miller who was a Conservative Democrat. From the Left came former Energy Secretary Ralph Nader whose Independent ticket had taken Vermont in 2000 and made the election so close. Al Gore won re-nomination, but announced that he would be choosing former Vermont Governor Howard Dean for Vice-President instead of Tom Daschle in order to secure the North-East.

The Republicans would nominate former Illinois Governor Hillary Rodham who was among the most prominent of the North-Eastern Conservatives. She won in a field that included former Florida Governor Jeb Bush, Congressman Ron Paul of Texas, Senator Dan Quayle, and Senator Lincoln Chaffee. For Vice-President she chose Bush to help her in the "Biden/Gore Southern States".

Former Energy Secretary Ralph Nader announced the he would once again run as the Green Party Presidential candidate, choosing his old running mate Bernie Sanders who had helped him win a state.

For the nomination of the American Party, a relatively unknown Conservative third party, Congressman Bob Barr who was called a "true Conservative" by several radio talk show hosts announced he would be seeking the Presidency. Conservative activist and Reagan Administration diplomat Alan Keyes would be the Vice-Presidential nominee.

In the general election, Nader and Barr were not allowed in the debates because neither of them were polling above fifteen percent. However, protests would occur outside of all four debates (three Presidential, one Vice-Presidential) in favor of allowing the extra candidates to enter. Gore would be seen as the loser of the debates, and Jeb Bush would perform well against Howard Dean.

Former Governor Hillary Rodham (R-IL)/Former Governor John E Bush (R-FL) 306 electoral votes, 50.3% of the electoral vote
President Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN)/Former Governor Howard Dean (D-VT) 231 electoral votes, 44.9% of the popular vote
Former Energy Secretary Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Congressman Bernie Sanders (G-VT), 1 electoral vote*, 2.3% of the popular vote
Congressman Robert Barr (A-GA)/Activist Alan Keyes (A-DC), 1.7% of the popular vote

*A faithless elector in California cast his vote for Ralph Nader and Bernie Sanders. This is the most recent instance of a faithless elector in American Presidential elections.

Many Conservatives and Republicans hailed Rodham's victory as "a true defeat of the Progressive Spirit of the nineties". Her term would begin easily enough and she promised "a true economic recovery reminiscient of the Reagan era". In her first one hundred days she signed a large amount of tax cuts to the wealthy and the middle class and worked to gut a large amount of government programs, "putting them through the same scrutiny we put the Pentagon through in 1993", alleging that corruption and waster were to be found.

In defense matters she would considerably strengthen the United States military. However, she would also repeal what was called the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy and allow gays to openly serve in the military. Education Secretary George Bush, who was the Vice-President's brother and had been a successful Texas Governor (1995-2005) as well as a Congressman (1979-1987), proposed the "No Child Left Behind" policy that would supposedly strengthen American education. Despite being passed, the act would come to have a bad legacy and many Presidents would seek to pass a reformed or fixed version of it in later years.

2008
The Democratic field which in 2005 had been full of hopefuls such as Senator John Kerrey, Governor Mark Warner, and Governor Mike Huckabee, came down to:
Former Vermont Governor Howard Dean
Senator John Edwards
Senator Evan Bayh
None were seen as very good candidates. Dean was seen as too Liberal and was of course from Vermon which was seen as one of the most Liberal states in the union. Edwards was seen as too economically Liberal or Populist as well as being a Southerner which the Democrats had long grown tired of. Evan Bayh was seen as far too Centrist and an uncharismatic candidate.
Eventually, Edwards would win the nomination in a crowded field. In order to appease Northerners he would choose Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts for Vice-President.

President Rodham would face zero opposition despite Ron Paul having planned on a third Presidential run that year. She would be easily renominated at the Republican National Convention as would Vice-President Bush.

President Hillary Rodham (R-IL)/Vice-President John E Bush (R-FL) 354 electoral votes, 54.7% of the popular vote
Senator John Edwards (D-NC)/Senator John F Kerry (D-MA) 184 electoral votes, 44.8% of the popular vote

In what was greeted as "a triumph of Conservatism" by Rush Limbauch, President Hillary Rodham was re-elected by the largest electoral and popular vote margin since 1984. It was seen as a mandate to continue her policies.

One of the milestones of Rodham's Presidency was the United States being the first nation to land on the planet of Mars. President Rodham claimed it to be a great leap for the United States to further explore the solar system and the universe.

Over the next four years the economy continued its recovery. There was some disturbance following turmoil and the eventual United States entrance into the Middle East in 2009 and 2010. However, the economy had recovered from that by 2011 and was said to have leveled out at around 2012.

In energy policy, Rodham looked back onto the works of Presidents Gore, Rumsfeld, Reagan, Carter, and Kennedy in order to find a permanent solution. By her second term, the United States was eighty percent on American energy, whether it was oil, nuclear, solar, hydro-electric, or wind. However, that 20% which was mostly made up of Middle Eastern oil, still had an effect on the economy and Rodham worked to make the United States "100% run on American", a goal she never acheived.

2012
For the Republicans in 2012, a year that they were expected to do well in, Vice-President Jeb Bush easily won the nomination against Massachusetts Senator Mitt Romney, Congresswoman Sarah Palin, and Senator Gary Johnson. For Vice-President, Mitt Romney was chosen.

The Democrats had a difficult time finding their candidate. The field was dominated by moderates including Brian Schweitzer, Evan Bayh, and Mark Warner. However, former Governor Bill Richardson of New Mexico won the nomination choosing Mark Warner as his running mate.

Former Governor William Ricahrdson (D-NM)/Senator Mark Warner (D-VA) 277 electoral votes, 52.4% of the popular vote
Vice-President John E Bush (R-FL)/Senator Willard "Mitt" Romney (R-MA) 261 electoral votes, 47.2% of the popular vote

List of Nixon 1960 Presidents
35. Richard M Nixon (R-CA)/Gerald R Ford (R-MI) 1961-1969
Henry M Jackson (D-WA)/Robert F Kennedy (D-MA) 1969-1977
Robert F Kennedy (D-MA)/James E Carter (D-GA) 1977-1978
James E Carter (D-GA)/vacant 1978-1981

Ronald W Reagan (R-CA)/Donald Rumsfeld (R-IL) 1981-1989
Donald Rumsfeld (R-IL)/Clinton Eastwood (R-CA) 1989-1993

Joseph R Biden (D-DE)/Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN) 1993-2001
Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN)/Thomas Daschle (D-SD) 2001-2005

Hillary Rodham (R-IL)/John E Bush (R-FL) 2005-2013
William Richardson (D-NM)/Mark Warner (D-VA) 2013-Present

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« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2011, 08:56:47 PM »

How is this still only on one page?
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« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2011, 08:59:26 PM »

Opinions?

Options for the future:
1. TR in 1912
2. JFK lives
3. George Romney in '68
4. The rise of the Conservative Party
5. The rise of the Libertarian Party
6. Work on your actual timelines, you lazyass!
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« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2011, 09:04:17 PM »

A combination of 4 and 5? The rise of a Goldwaterite Party tl perhaps? I love timelines based on partys.
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« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2011, 09:18:41 PM »

A combination of 4 and 5? The rise of a Goldwaterite Party tl perhaps? I love timelines based on partys.

#4 would begin with the 1964 Presidential election and Goldwater running a 3rd Party ticket after Rocky wins the nomination.

#5 I'm not sure of how to do this one given that the Libertarian party began in 1971 and first ran a ticket in 1972. I'd like them to get a Presidency in 1980, but I suppose I could postpone it to 1984.

Some day I'd like to flesh both of these out into full timelines complete with pictures and stuff. This is like the place where I can cook up the original scenario.
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« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2011, 10:14:03 AM »
« Edited: March 19, 2011, 10:17:40 AM by Working Man »

This'll be a short one that I've been intending to do for a while.

George Romney in '68

In 1968, against Governor Ronald Reagan of California, Governor Jim Rhodes of Ohio and former Vice-President Richard Nixon of New York, Michigan Governor George Romney won the Republican nomination. There were concerns over his Mormon faith as well as the fact his parents weren't born in America. However, that situation was handled with the Supreme Court ruling in August that as long as one's parents were American citizens and one had met all other requirements, one could run for President.

At the Repbulican National Convention, in order to appease Conservatives, Romney chose Arizona Senator Paul Fannin as his running mate. For the Democrats, Vice-President Hubert H Humphrey was only able to win the nomination after several rounds of balloting between himself and Senator Robert F Kennedy of New York. For Vice-President, Humphrey chose Senator George Smathers of Florida.

Former Alabama Governor George Wallace of Alabama ran as an American Independent with General Curtis LeMay as his running mate.


Governor George Romney (R-MI)/Senator Paul Fanninf (R-AZ) 292 electoral votes, 42.6% of the popular vote
Vice-President Hubert H Humphrey (D-MN)/Senator George Smathers (D-FL) 192 electoral votes, 42.4% of the popular vote
Former Governor George Wallace (AI-AL)/General Curtis LeMay (AI-CA) 54 electoral votes, 14.5% of the popular vote

Romeny on election night became the first member of the Jesus Christ Church of Latter Day Saints to be elected President.

Romney filled his cabinet with so-called qualified people. Secretary of State was given to New York Governor Nelson Rockefeller. Secretary of Defense was given to "peace-nik Republican" Mark Hatfield, Martin Luther King Jr. was confirmed Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, Congressman George Bush was made Secretary of the Navy, Sargent Shriver became Ambassador to the United Nations, Professor Henry Kissinger became National Security Adviser, and Senator Howard Baker was made Secretary of the Treasury.

Romney's first term was marked first and foremost by an end to the Vietnam War in 1971. By then a complete withdrawal had been negotiated and he had, according to himself, "saved the lives of millions of our nation's servicemen". South Vietnam fell by 1972.

1972
After a largely successful first term, Romney was challenged only by Conservative Congressman John Ashbrook of Ohio. Romney easily won the nomination and he and Vice-President Fannin went on to face former Senator George Smathers and Senator John Connally.


President George Romney (R-MI)/Vice-President Paul Fannin (R-AZ) 369 electoral votes, 54.6% of the popular vote
Former Senator George Smathers (D-FL)/Senator John Connally (D-TX) 45.2% of the popular vote

The second half of the Romney Presidency would focus on domestic issues as the United States was going through a recession. In order to help alleviate the deficit Romney cut parts of military and domestic programs. However, he also cut taxes for the middle class and for businesses. On the issue of Roe vs. Wade, Romney was against the Supreme Court's decision to say that abortions constitutionally were legal nationwide, even though a number of his own justices had helped write the majority decision. Romney believed in the right to life as sated by his Mormon faith and spoke out against the decision. However, nothing was ever done. On the issue of gay rights, President Romney attempted to pass a bill that allowed homsexuals to serve openly in the army. It was supported by Defense Secretary Hatfield but was never passed due to the perceived homophobia of Congress. Despite not having been able to completely stop the recession, Romney ended his term with good approval ratings, having been able to alleviate certain parts of the recession.

1977
For the Republicans, the major candidates were Vice-President Paul Fannin (endorsed by former Governor Ronald Reagan and Senator Barry Goldwater), Secretary of Defense Mark Hatfield (endorsed by Congressmen Pete McCloskey and John Anderson) and Senator Bob Dole of Kansas (endorsed by Whitehouse Chief of Staff and former Navy Secretary George Bush and Army Secretary John Eisenhower). President Romney refused to endorse any candidate, saying he would endorse whoever the nominee was. Many suggested it was because privately he wanted Mark Hatfield to win but didn't want to betray his Vice-President. Nevertheless, Vice-President Fannin won the nomination choosing Congressman John Ashbrook as his running mate.

The Democrats nominated Senator Henry "Scoop" Jackson out of a crowded field included Jerry Brown, Jimmy Carter, George Wallace, and John Connally. For Vice-President, Congressman Morris K Udall was chosen, the second Mormon to be on a Presidential ticket.

In the debates, both candidates would perform well, citing their strengths and their opponents' weaknesses. However, Jackson won on issue of national security, slamming the Romney Administration for the amount of growth that the Soviet Union had gone through during the last eight years, as well as the slowing in missile production and the multiple arms reductions signed by Secretary of State Rockefeller.
The general election would turn into a battle for the West as Jackson was from Washington, Udall was from Arizona, and Fannin was from Arizona.

Senator Henry M "Scoop" Jackson (D-WA)/Congressman Morris K "Mo" Udall (D-AZ) 280 electoral votes, 51.3% of the popular vote
Vice-President Paul A Fannin (R-AZ)/Congressman John Ashbrook (R-OH) 258 electorla votes, 48.2% of the popular vote
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« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2011, 12:16:47 PM »

Many on both the Right and the Left would look back on Jackson's first term as a failure. Domestically, Jackson greatly expanded Great Society programs that had been shrunk the last eight years. Jackson also stopped forced integrated bussing, much to the pleasing of the Southerners. However, Jackson would also face a bad economy and a rising deficit and debt.

In foreign policy Jackson was far more hawkish than his predecessor. He greatly expanded the military as well, pushing for more funds for missile construction and deployment across the world. More missiles were sent over to Europe and to American allies while the defense budget ballooned.

In 1979, the Shah of Iran who had been an American ally in the Cold War faced revolt. President Jackson sent American troops into Iran to calm down the protesters but to no avail. When diplomats were taken hostage by the Iranian revolutionaries, Operation PEACEFUL RESISTANCE was put into play, killing the hostage takers and rescuing most of the hostages save two who had been killed. Despite the deaths of two hostages, President Jackson's handling of the crisis was hsi greatest triumph and it helped him win re-nomination over former Senator Eugene McCarthy in 1980.

1980
Facing a bad economy, it looked like Republicans' year to come back after the close election of 1976. However, the favorite, Senator Ronald Reagan of California (elected in 1976) faced a challenge from Texas Governor George Bush and former Defense Secretary Mark Hatfield. Hatfield had been waiting four years since 1976 for the 1980 election which he believed would be his. This time, without Vice-President Fannin running, President Romney openly endorsed Hatfield, and Hatfield won the nomination. For Vice-President, Hatfield chose Massachusetts Governor Elliot Richardson (elected 1974) for Vice-President. The ticket was a success for Libertarians and Moderates.

During the debates, Jackson who was not a charismatic speaker was forced to use hard facts to debate, comparing the condition of the Soviet Union between 1976 and 1980, economic growth in certain areas, and calmed racial relations. Meanwhile, Hatfield's call for a "complete and total nuclear freeze" didn't go as well with the public as he had hoped.

With no major Conservative third party ticket emerging, foreign policy hawks in the Republican Party defected en masse for Jackson, believing that in the Cold War Jackson was a better choice than the pro-nuclear freeze, anti-war Hatfield. Also, with the endorsement of Senator Ted Kennedy, Jackson was able to hold down Rhode Island and Massachusetts, states that might otherwise have gone to Richardson. Throughout his Presidency Jackson had been able to keep good relations with big labor and that proved invaluable in his holding down of New York and Pennsylvania.

President Henry M "Scoop" Jackson (D-WA)/Vice-President Morris K "Mo" Udall (D-AZ) 276 electoral votes, 49.8% of the popular vote
Former Secretary of Defense Mark Hatfield (R-OR)/Governor Elliot Richardson (R-MA) 262 electoral votes, 49.6% of the popular vote
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« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2011, 03:59:09 PM »

That was a damn good timeline, even though it didn't have much detail with who won the primaries.

Oh, and (5) looks interesting to me.
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« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2011, 07:22:29 PM »

That was a damn good timeline, even though it didn't have much detail with who won the primaries.

Oh, and (5) looks interesting to me.

Thanks. I may start on either the Libertarians or Conservatives after this is complete.
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« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2011, 08:18:42 PM »

Historians would often cite Jackson's second term as much better than his first. However, that didn't mean much. The economy only experienced slight signs of a recovery and the large deficits that had marked Jackson's first term only continued. However, Jackson had foreign policy successes as it seemed the Soviet Union was weakening by the month. In Afghanistan, an attempted Soviet Invasion was halted in its tracks by 1983 mainly due to Jackson's re-inforcing of the Afghans and use of the Northern Alliance to help repel the Soviets. History would credite the efforts of Texas Congressman Charlie Wilson as the "main man" in helping to deliver the blow that many said helped destroy the Soviet Union.

However, Jackson's second term would be cut short as he died of an aneurysm in 1983 leaving Vice-President Udall with the Presidency. Turning to the task of a Vice-President, President Udall chose the anti-communist Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan to help with Catholics and "Jackson Democrats". Moynihan had spent eight years as Labor Secretary in the Romney Administration, and four as Ambassador to the United Nations before election to the Senate in 1980.

1984
After Hatfield's defeat, the moderates seemed mainly discredited. Senator Ronald Reagan, who declined a third bid for the Presidency (his first two being 1968 and 1980), endorsed former California Governor Barry Goldwater Jr. for the Presidency. Goldwater had been elected Governor in 1974 and had previously served six years in the House of Representatives. Other candidates included Texas Governor George Bush, Kansas Senator Bob Dole, and Congressman Phil Crane. Goldwater, twenty years after his own father had won the Republican nomination, would carry the day. For Vice-President, Michigan Governor and former First-Lady Lenore Romney was chosen to appease moderates and to bring back happier memories for the Republican Party.

For the Democrats, President Udall would face a challenge from former Governor Jerry Brown who tore down the last eight years as "An era of a limitless mindset in a world of limits", citing the deficit and the lack of a recovery despite large amounts of deficit spending. However, Udall narrowly secured the nomination.

While at first it appeared as if Udall could make the election close and even win re-election, Goldwater quickly out-paced Udall on the campaign trail, and slammed the President in the debates. The Conservatives and Libertarians in the party were rejuvenated, and for the first time since 1964 when Goldwater's father had run for President, had a candidate who represented them.

Former Governor Barry Goldwater Jr. (R-CA)/Senator Lenore Romney (R-MI) 470 electoral votes, 56.3% of the popular vote
President Morris K "Mo" Udall (D-AZ)/Vice-President Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D-NY) 68 electoral votes, 43.3% of the popular vote
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« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2011, 08:48:27 PM »
« Edited: March 21, 2011, 06:56:53 PM by Working Man »

"Finally!", Conservatives and Libertarians alike said. A Goldwater had reached the Presidency. While those early in the campaign claimed that his social positions and border-line Paleo-Conservative policies would alienate the anti-communist socially conservative Middle America, by focusing on economic issue, Goldwater was able to win over members of Middle America.

Upon taking office, President Goldwater vowed to "unleash the doors of the free market long held closed by the forces of big government and the welfare state". Goldwater signed some of the largest tax cuts in American history, also negotiating privatizations or outright elimination of several government beauracracies. Treasury Secretary Murray Rothbard and economic adviser Arthur Laffer proved valuable in the shaping of Goldwater's economic agenda. Also, Goldwater would tighten the money supply with the help of Democratic Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker. While this led to a double-dip recession in 1986 and 1987, (losing the Republicans majorities in both Houses of Congress) by 1988 the economy had fully recovered.

In foreign policy, Goldwater, like his father, was an anti-communist. However, as far as he was concerned, after the Cold War American needed a more humble foreign policy. To finally win against the "Evil Empire", he recruited Senator Ronald Reagan of California to become Secretary of State. However, he also recruited former Defense Secretary Mark Hatfield to take up his old role at the Pentagon. The two near opposited heading Goldwater's foreign policy team would often clash and result in poor calculations in foreign policy goals. Goldwater's stated goal with the two appointments was for Hatfield to handle the down-sizing of the military while Reagan would hold the line against the Soviet Union. In 1987, with the Soviet Union's final collapse, Reagan announced he would resign in January 1989, citing his work done. "It's time for me to pass the torch of Conservatism to a new generation of Americans". Among Goldwater's foreign policy triumphs was the launching of the Global Defense Initiative which was instrumental in the USSR's final buckling.

1988
President Barry Goldwater Jr. and Vice-President Lenore Romney were unanimously re-nominated for their respective positions. Former Senator Barry Goldwater, in a humorous moment with former President Romney, would say "You never expected the names Goldwater and Romney to be side-by-side on a national ticket, did you?". The former President would reply "No, I didn't.".

While several Democrats were calling for Senator Ted Kennedy or former Vice-President and by that point Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, both declined. Instead, Senate Majority Leader Walter Mondale was nominated, and with him Civil Rights Leader Jesse Jackson. One person joked at the convention "It's bringing a new meaning to the phrase "Jackson Democrat".

President Barry Goldwater Jr. (R-CA)/Vice-President Lenore Romney (R-MI) 512 electoral votes, 58.3% of the popular vote
Senate Majority Leader Walter Mondale (D-MN)/Activist Jesse L Jackson (D-DC) 26 electoral votes, 41.2% of the popular vote
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« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2011, 07:08:59 PM »

The Presidency of Barry Goldwater Jr. continued with much success as the recovery came to an end and the economy stabilized.
In foreign affairs Goldwater pursued an isolationist foreign policy. With his new Secretary of State, former Congressman Andre Marrou, Goldwater issued the recall of thousands of United States troops from overseas. In fulfilling a campaign pledge to balance the budget in his second term, he passed the first balanced budget in several years in 1990.

1992
With Goldwater having a 56% approval rating at the beginning of the primary season, a candidate to carry on his legacy became important. That candidate was Ron Paul, the Texas Senator who had been elected in the Republican landslide year of 1984 nad was called by many the "First Friend" because of his friendship with the President over those eight years. Before that Paul had served in the United States House of Representatives 1976-1985. In the primaries Paul beat other candidates such as Senate Majority Leader Howard Baker and Congressman Jack Kemp. To hold onto "Reagan Conservatives", Paul selected Kemp as his running mate.

For the Democrats, the early front-runner was Senator Bob Kerrey of Nebraska. However, he faced an insurgent Jesse Jackson who had been the 1988 Vice-Presidential nominee. While Kerrey won Iowa, his "thunder" was taken away by Paul Tsongas in New Hampshire. While Democrats had tried to spin Tsongas as "A re-packaged version of Goldwater", Tsongas' fiscally Conservative message had stuck in New Hampshire. Finally, a front-runner emerged in Virginia Senator Chuck Robb who won the South Carolina primary and began to sweep the South along with pieces of different other regions until he had amassed enough delegates to win the nomination. In order to keep Liberals voting with him, Robb chose New  York Governor Mario Cuomo for Vice-President.

Early on, Paul faced a massive deficit in the polls. However, as one supporter would say "like all deficits Paul faced he closed it". The week before the election it was a pure toss-up. On election night the election came down to Georgia and its thirteen electoral votes. Despite Georgia's Democratic tradition, Paul would pull off what many called a miracle.

Senator Ronald E Paul (R-TX)/Congressman Jack F Kemp (R-NY) 276 electoral votes, 49.8% of the popular vote
Senator Charles Robb (D-VA)/Governor Mario Cuomo (D-NY) 263 electoral votes, 49.4% of the popular vote
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« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2011, 11:10:55 AM »

wtf, ron paul's president. I'd prefer Coburn over him.
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