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« Reply #250 on: November 20, 2011, 01:25:49 PM »

My town is San Sebastian de los Reyes (north of Madrid)
Heh. The German wiki has more to say on it than the English. Cheesy
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« Reply #251 on: November 20, 2011, 01:31:27 PM »

My town is San Sebastian de los Reyes (north of Madrid)
Heh. The German wiki has more to say on it than the English. Cheesy

It's a dull, uninteresting place (Sorry Julio). A Spanish equivalent of an exurb nowadays.
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« Reply #252 on: November 20, 2011, 01:32:27 PM »

I can understand Spanish to an extent, so if anyone has a livestream link, post away!

http://www.rtve.es/
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« Reply #253 on: November 20, 2011, 01:33:22 PM »

The higher turnout is actually noticeable in the Basque Country. I went to vote at 12:30 and there were a lot of people in the street, much more then usual. I voted for the PNV, and so did my dad and sister. My mum voted for Rubalcaba in fear of the PP, which she despises.

In my town the turnout is higher than in 2008. In the Basque Country, Jaen and Cordoba it's also grown. In the rest of Spain, it's lower.

I've been all the time helping PSOE people this morning. But, you know, "Alea Iacta Est". Rajoy will win, unfortunately...

My prediction:

PP 183-186
PSOE 126-129 (being optimistic)
IU 7-9
UPyD 2-3
CiU 12
PNV 4
Aralar 5
BNG 2
CC-NC 3
FAC 2
ERC 2-3
Compromis/Equo 2
PRC 0 (unfortunately)

I don't agree with your prediction when it comes to the PRC. I think that they will win 1 seat. Also, I wish you're wrong about the PNV and  that we maintain our 6 seats, or at least the 5 required to have our own group in Congress. By the way, it's not Aralar but Amaiur, and yes, it will achieve a very good result.
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« Reply #254 on: November 20, 2011, 01:33:54 PM »

My town is San Sebastian de los Reyes (north of Madrid)
Heh. The German wiki has more to say on it than the English. Cheesy

It's a dull, uninteresting place (Sorry Julio). A Spanish equivalent of an exurb nowadays.
Well, what do you expect from a place that was a village until 50 years ago and now has almost 80,000 inhabitants?
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« Reply #255 on: November 20, 2011, 01:34:52 PM »

My town is San Sebastian de los Reyes (north of Madrid)
Heh. The German wiki has more to say on it than the English. Cheesy

It's a dull, uninteresting place (Sorry Julio). A Spanish equivalent of an exurb nowadays.
Well, what do you expect from a place that was a village until 50 years ago and now has almost 80,000 inhabitants?

Nothing. But I did have to work there for a while. So I was noting it from experience.
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« Reply #256 on: November 20, 2011, 01:35:40 PM »

GALICIA:

A Coruña PP 4 (=) PSOE 3 (=) BNG 1 (=)

Pontevedra PP 4 (+1) PSOE 2 (-1) BNG 1 (=)

Lugo PP 3 (+1) PSOE 1 (-1) (being pessimistic becuse my guts say they will have 2 each)

Ourense PP 3 (+1) PSOE 1 (-1)

ASTURIAS: PSOE 3 (-1) PP 2 (-2) FAC 2 (+2) IU 1 (+1)

CANTABRIA: PP 3 (=) PSOE 2 (=)

PAIS VASCO:

Bizkaia PSOE 3 (-1) PNV 2 (-1) PP 2 (+1) Amaiur 1 (+1)

Araba PSOE 2 (=) PP 2 (+1) (Here I don't know if PNV will finally get their seat... so, 0-1 for them)

Guipuzkoa PSOE 2 (-2) Amaiur 2 (+2) PP 1 (=)  PNV 1 (-2)

LA RIOJA: PP 3 (+1) PSOE 1 (-1)

NAVARRA: UPN-PP 2 (=) PSOE 2 (=) Geroa Bai 1 (=) (here, Amaiur could get 1 seat, "stealing" it from PSOE or Geroa Bai)

ARAGÓN:

Huesca PP 2 (+1) PSOE 1 (-1)

Zaragoza PP 4 (+1) PSOE 2 (-2) IU-CHA 1 (+1) (my relatives from there say it'll be 3-3-1, I hope they're right)

Teruel PP 2 (+1) PSOE 1 (-1)

CATALUNYA:

Lleida PSOE 2 (=) CiU 1 (=) PP 1 (=) (but polls are convinced it's 1-2-1)

Barcelona PSOE 11-12 (-4 -5) PP 8 (+2) CiU 7 (+1) ICV 2-3 (+2 +1) ERC 2 (=) (sorry, but I don't know how things will go here, Barcelona and Catalunya are impossible to predict)

Girona CiU 2 (=) PSOE 2 (-1) PP 1 (=) ERC 1 (=) (PP could get 2 and ERC 0)

Tarragona PSOE 3 (-1) PP 2 (+1) CiU 1 (=) (polls predict 2-2-2)

COMUNIDAD VALENCIANA:

Castellón PP 3(=) PSOE 2 (=)

Valencia PP 9 (=) PSOE 5 (-2) IU 1 (+1) Compromis 1 (+1) (10-4-1-1 is also a possibility, and some people say UPyD will win a seat here, because their candidate is a famous, but really bad, "actor")

Alicante PP 7 (=) PSOE 5 (=)

MURCIA: PP 7 (=) PSOE 2 (-1) IU 0-1 (= +1) UPyD 0-1 (=+1) (I hate Murcia, so it would suprise me if they voted 8-2 PP, oh, and I think IU's more likely than UPyD to get a seat)

ANDALUCIA:

Almeria PP 4 (+1) PSOE 2 (-1)

Cádiz PP 5 (+1) PSOE 3 (-2) (Cadiz lost 1 seat)

Córdoba PP 3 (+1) PSOE 3 (-1)

Granada PP 4 (+1) PSOE 3 (-1)

Huelva PSOE 3 (=) PP 2 (=)

Jaén PSOE 4 (=) PP 2 (=) (Polls say it's 3-3 but Jaen people are really intelligent, let's see what happens)

Málaga PP 6 (+1) PSOE 4 (-1) (or 7-3, Malaga is becoming the new Almeria, which is the new Murcia)

Sevilla PSOE 6 (-2) PP 5 (+1) IU 1 (+1)

EXTREMADURA:  

Cáceres PP 3 (+2) PSOE 1 (-1)

Badajoz PP 3 (=) PSOE 3 (=) (Badajoz, I trust you... but polls say it's 4-2)

CASTILLA LA MANCHA:

Toledo PP 4 (+1) PSOE 2 (-1)

Albacete PP 3 (+1) PSOE 1 (-1)

Ciudad Real PP 3 (=) PSOE 2 (=) (efecto Barreda)

Cuenca PP 2 (=) PSOE 1 (=)

Guadalajara PP 2 (=) PSOE 1 (=)

MADRID: PP 20 (+2) PSOE 10-11 (-4 -5) IU 2-3 (+1 +2) UPyD 2-3 (+1 +2)) Equo 0-1 (= +1) (so, PP has 20, PSOE 10, UPyD 2 and IU 2, and the last seat could go for PSOE, UPyD, IU or Equo)

CASTILLA Y LEÓN:

Ávila PP 2 (=) PSOE 1 (=) (Avilla is reeeeeeally conservative, so it could be 3-0)

Burgos PP 3 (+1) PSOE 1 (-1)

León PP 3 (+1) PSOE 2 (-1)

Palencia PP 2 (=) PSOE 1 (=)

Salamanca PP 3 (+1) PSOE 1 (-1)

Segovia PP 2 (=) PSOE 1 (=)

Soria PP 1 (=) PSOE 1 (=) (in a very good night for PP, it's 2-0)

Valladolid PP 3 (=) PSOE 2 (=) (or 4-1, I don't know)

Zamora PP 2 (=) PSOE 1 (=)

ILLES BALEARS: PP 5 (+1) PSOE 3 (-1)

ISLAS CANARIAS:

Las Palmas PP 5 (+1) PSOE 2 (-2) CC-NC 1 (+1) (Hopefully, PSOE wins 3 and CC-NC 0)

Tenerife PP 3 (+1) PSOE 2 (-1) CC-NC 2 (=)







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« Reply #257 on: November 20, 2011, 01:37:43 PM »

By the way, it's not Aralar but Amaiur, and yes, it will achieve a very good result.
Which is Aralar + EA, right?
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« Reply #258 on: November 20, 2011, 01:37:52 PM »

You mean, a livestream of some tv station's reporting of the results? You want to practice your spoken Spanish comprehension?

I can understand a channel's graphics.  Tongue  It's also fun to observe the atmosphere even if I don't understand what is being said.
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« Reply #259 on: November 20, 2011, 01:38:46 PM »

I voted for the PNV, and so did my dad and sister.

FF!

Hopefully the PNV does keep all its 6 seats. I doubt they'll win less than 5 seats, though.
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« Reply #260 on: November 20, 2011, 01:39:24 PM »

My town is San Sebastian de los Reyes (north of Madrid)
Heh. The German wiki has more to say on it than the English. Cheesy

It's a dull, uninteresting place (Sorry Julio). A Spanish equivalent of an exurb nowadays.

It may be for you, but you shouldn't have said that. I love "Sanse" and we're the most "fast-growing" town in Madrid (is fast-growing right?). And we have the biggest green local party in Spain (Izquierda Independiente).
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« Reply #261 on: November 20, 2011, 01:39:51 PM »

By the way, it's not Aralar but Amaiur, and yes, it will achieve a very good result.
Which is Aralar + EA, right?
Aralar+Bildu (EA, Alternatiba and more importantly, the zquierda Abertzale)
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« Reply #262 on: November 20, 2011, 01:41:03 PM »

I voted for the PNV, and so did my dad and sister.

FF!

Hopefully the PNV does keep all its 6 seats. I doubt they'll win less than 5 seats, though.


I'm going to the party headquarters at 9 o'clock to see what's going on there.
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« Reply #263 on: November 20, 2011, 01:41:30 PM »

Fast-growing areas usually suck balls, though.
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« Reply #264 on: November 20, 2011, 01:42:18 PM »

By the way, it's not Aralar but Amaiur, and yes, it will achieve a very good result.
Which is Aralar + EA, right?
Aralar+Bildu (EA, Alternatiba and more importantly, the zquierda Abertzale)
Which is... some new mainline HB successor?
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« Reply #265 on: November 20, 2011, 01:42:27 PM »

My town is San Sebastian de los Reyes (north of Madrid)
Heh. The German wiki has more to say on it than the English. Cheesy

It's a dull, uninteresting place (Sorry Julio). A Spanish equivalent of an exurb nowadays.

It may be for you, but you shouldn't have said that. I love "Sanse" and we're the most "fast-growing" town in Madrid (is fast-growing right?). And we have the biggest green local party in Spain (Izquierda Independiente).


Discúlpame.

(Btw, fastest-growing)
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« Reply #266 on: November 20, 2011, 01:42:33 PM »

Yes, hopefully PNV wins more votes than Amaiur, but I also hope that the people in Euskadi vote like your mother Smiley

My dad has voted PSOE, and all but one person in my family (wh lives in Cat. and has voted CiU)

My neighbors... I'm sure a majority of them have voted PSOE and IU (my neighborhood is the only one in Sanse where PP didn't won in May, Izquierda Independiente won)
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« Reply #267 on: November 20, 2011, 01:43:10 PM »

By the way, it's not Aralar but Amaiur, and yes, it will achieve a very good result.
Which is Aralar + EA, right?
Aralar+Bildu (EA, Alternatiba and more importantly, the zquierda Abertzale)
Which is... some new mainline HB successor?

I guess you could say that.
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« Reply #268 on: November 20, 2011, 01:47:02 PM »

I'm not going anywhere. I haven't got anything to claim victory for.. so, the only thing I hope is Rubalcaba has a not-that-bad results and PRC wins the seat they deserve).

Sanse is the most comfortable place to live in the World, too. We can catch the train to Madrid and be there in 30 minutes... We have the biggest shopping malls in Spain, and the city is really quiet and modern.
Also, we're called "La Pamplona Chica" because, after those in Pamplona, our festivals are the best in Spain (and our "encierros" are famous all over the World)
So, stop talking about Sanseeee!!

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« Reply #269 on: November 20, 2011, 01:47:51 PM »

12 minutes to go.

I thought polls closed at 9:00...
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« Reply #270 on: November 20, 2011, 01:51:55 PM »

Sólo 10 minutos!! I'm very excited hahahahahaah Smiley
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« Reply #271 on: November 20, 2011, 01:54:01 PM »

I'm absolutely devastated.
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« Reply #272 on: November 20, 2011, 01:55:09 PM »

How quickly do you guys see the Rajoy government becoming extremely unpopular and prompting mass protests/riots?
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« Reply #273 on: November 20, 2011, 01:55:32 PM »

I've just realised that I've no alcohol in my flat, so will have to find some form of drowning-sorrows substitute. Biscuits, maybe? Think I've still some leaf tea left as well. Not ideal for these purposes, but will do, I think...
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« Reply #274 on: November 20, 2011, 02:00:44 PM »
« Edited: November 20, 2011, 02:02:48 PM by Harry Hayfield »

Spanish Exit Poll (Source: TVE)
PP 44% +4% winning 181 - 185 seats
PSOE 30% -14% winning 115 - 119 seats
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