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« Reply #425 on: November 20, 2011, 08:24:05 PM »
Quote from: italianboy8 on November 20, 2011, 08:20:15 PM
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Another dead-in-the-water moment for the European left. Bring on France and Germany!
Let's not forget Italy as well.  Smiley

With a very unpopular Berlusconi officially out of power, don't bet against the Italian Left screwing up again.
You wish.


Nominate Vendola. Please. Now that Berlusconi is gone, I'd really like our chances at another landslide.  Wink

We can take this to the Italy thread if you wish.
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« Reply #426 on: November 20, 2011, 09:18:21 PM »
So I guess the results are 186 seats for PP and 164 for all other parties.  Are any of the other parties going to be allied with PP (at least for practical purposes)? 

I suppose it doesn't make much difference because in parliamentary systems, the majority can generally do what it wants and since they have over 175 seats, they can't be outvoted as long as they agree internally.
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« Reply #427 on: November 21, 2011, 09:02:57 AM »
Maps of el mundo :


change 2008/2011



SPAIN  2008



SPAIN 2011
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« Reply #428 on: November 21, 2011, 10:49:25 AM »
Why is that part of the south so socialist?
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« Reply #429 on: November 21, 2011, 11:59:13 AM »
Quote from: Teddy (SoFE) on November 21, 2011, 10:49:25 AM
Why is that part of the south so socialist?

If you people read my guide or parts of it, you would all know!

(Scroll down to the entry on Andalusia in my guide for the answer. Simply put, it's the land of latifundios, agricultural labourers and utter poverty).
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« Reply #430 on: November 21, 2011, 12:01:57 PM »
Who do they work for?
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« Reply #431 on: November 21, 2011, 12:03:03 PM »
In the past, for evil caciques. Nowadays, on modernized large farms.
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« Reply #432 on: November 21, 2011, 12:15:24 PM »
Quote from: VICTORY 10.06.11 on November 21, 2011, 11:59:13 AM
Quote from: Teddy (SoFE) on November 21, 2011, 10:49:25 AM
Why is that part of the south so socialist?

If you people read my guide or parts of it, you would all know!

(Scroll down to the entry on Andalusia in my guide for the answer. Simply put, it's the land of latifundios, agricultural labourers and utter poverty).




à quand une version en français de votre blog?
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« Reply #433 on: November 21, 2011, 12:18:27 PM »
I actually have asked this question once in the past (and gotten no answer)... why is the city of Cordoba relatively right-wing, voting for PP in 2008? Sevilla is totally different.
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« Reply #434 on: November 21, 2011, 12:34:30 PM »
Quote from: boiling in a miserable march 21st on November 21, 2011, 12:18:27 PM
I actually have asked this question once in the past (and gotten no answer)... why is the city of Cordoba relatively right-wing, voting for PP in 2008? Sevilla is totally different.

There must be other local factors, but I believe it is wealthier than Sevilla. At any rate, most Andalusian cities are to the right of the countryside.
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« Reply #435 on: November 21, 2011, 12:38:35 PM »
What's the tan in Nafarroa?
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« Reply #436 on: November 21, 2011, 12:42:40 PM »

Geroa Bai.
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« Reply #437 on: November 21, 2011, 12:53:46 PM »
It's in the same places in 2008 though.
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« Reply #438 on: November 21, 2011, 01:15:28 PM »


Some immediate historical perspective.
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« Reply #439 on: November 21, 2011, 01:16:36 PM »
God, that hurts.
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« Reply #440 on: November 21, 2011, 01:21:27 PM »

On the comparatively bright side, the long term mild leftwards movement in Galicia hasn't been reversed, I guess. That's all I can think of right now...
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« Reply #441 on: November 21, 2011, 01:27:32 PM »
Jesus, that's catastrophic. Didn't even have the upside of a strong IU vote, either.
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« Reply #442 on: November 21, 2011, 01:39:58 PM »
This looks to be the worst defeat for PSOE (carried only two by the looks)... even worse then 2000 (carried 6)... Looks like Sevilla and Barcelona are the only two Provinces (municipalities? whats the correct term?) to have always voted PSOE (PSC) since 1977...

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« Reply #443 on: November 21, 2011, 01:46:04 PM »
Quote from: Leftbehind on November 21, 2011, 01:27:32 PM
Jesus, that's catastrophic. Didn't even have the upside of a strong IU vote, either.
Compared to what they'd gotten to (ie the brink of extinction)... yes it did.

Quote from: lilTommy on November 21, 2011, 01:39:58 PM
This looks to be the worst defeat for PSOE (carried only two by the looks)... even worse then 2000 (carried 6)... Looks like Sevilla and Barcelona are the only two Provinces (municipalities? whats the correct term?) to have always voted PSOE (PSC) since 1977...


Provinces. Or circumscriptions, technically. They're identical to the provinces though.
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« Reply #444 on: November 21, 2011, 01:52:54 PM »
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« Reply #445 on: November 21, 2011, 01:55:30 PM »

Grauniad excels itself Cheesy
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« Reply #446 on: November 21, 2011, 02:02:33 PM »
Quote from: lilTommy on November 21, 2011, 01:39:58 PM
This looks to be the worst defeat for PSOE (carried only two by the looks)... even worse then 2000 (carried 6)... Looks like Sevilla and Barcelona are the only two Provinces (municipalities? whats the correct term?) to have always voted PSOE (PSC) since 1977...



The two regions only barely voted for PSOE this time around too.
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« Reply #447 on: November 21, 2011, 02:03:09 PM »
Compare the current map to the one above it on Al's chart. Both parties are more national, and that is a good thing.
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« Reply #448 on: November 21, 2011, 02:05:25 PM »
PSOE even lost the city of Barcelona to CiU...
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« Reply #449 on: November 21, 2011, 02:10:19 PM »
Is this a threat, that the CiU has swept the area? Is Independence on the horizon?
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