Do you think there are more left-wing or right-wing truthers in the U.S.? (user search)
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  Do you think there are more left-wing or right-wing truthers in the U.S.? (search mode)
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Question: Do you think there are more left-wing truthers or right-wing ones in the U.S.?
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« on: May 04, 2011, 07:58:16 PM »

Right wing by far. The whole conspiracy "movement" if you will is far-right, talk radio, "patriot" movement; just look at youtube videos related to this for a sampling of opinions - they're mostly Ron Paul supporters. Alex Jones, the de facto leader of that movement is not a left wing guy, he shifted back to gun stuff and birther conspiracies as soon as Obama was elected.

In the days of Bush a lot of young naive nominally left wing people embraced the anti-war message that was coming from these patriot types, but the ideological divide between them was formidable. The 9/11 conspiracy movement today has very few truly left wing people. That wasn't necessarily the case in 2004.
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« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2011, 08:10:03 AM »

It's certainly more left wing than the Teabagger or Birther movements, but it's mostly anti-government message makes it inherently right-wing.


Anarchy is anti-government and that more of a left-wing philosophy dating back to 19 century. Anti-Government movements aren't always right-wing, just the majority of them are.

I think he means, in American politics, anti-(federal)government movements tend to be associated with the right.
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« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2011, 02:11:27 AM »

Truthers tend to be anti-Federal government, not anarchists. States Rights conservatives are far from being anarchists.

How did this whole anarchism is right wing business get started? It's absolutely false. The right wing in the 19th century was comprised of monarchists, nationalists and by the 20th century also fascists. Later classical liberals, previously on the left, are more often identified with the right in the last 30-40 years.

The whole left-right paradigm gets kind of weird when applied to American politics in 19th century or even the early 20th. The major parties were both largely liberal (small l), compared to the originally dichotomy at the time of the French Revolution they would all be left. Only some of the Southern Democrats began to take on qualities of right by the time of late 19th century, but this was alongside socialist rhetoric. History is confusing like that, you need to think backwards and not impose current issues onto 1930's Germany parliamentary politics....otherwise we end up with the above description of Hitler as a decent running mate for Mondale.

p.s. the nazis did not have their base in labor, the KPD - the German Communist Party occupied the far left position and was in the Wiemar years, a popular party.
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