The Office of Former President & Senator Polnut - Deregistration

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Congratulations to Polnut and BK on their massive landslide victory. I look forward to working with the both you in the next four months.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Marvelous choices, all around. Clever Polnut you, saving the AG for last, just at a time when the AG is probably most anticipated. You certainly have a talent for suspense.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Each time there was a screw up, it was the result of the PPT neglecting to announce it via the traditional thread.

The most recent screwup was actually a screw up some month's ago in which the Governors jumped the gun and tried to ratify an amendment before the Senate had passed it, and then once the Senate had re-passed it, no announcement was made. In fact, re-ratification may or may not be necessary. I suggest a review of the relevant constitutional clauses regarding amendments.

Edit: Language is somewhat loose, but I probably lean towards thinking it is necessary.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Mr President-elect,

I apologize for the inconvenience but I have you as having taken the oath at 10:14 am, Eastern Standard time, rather then Noon as specified in the Consitution of Atlasia. Therefore, I ask that for sake of avoiding any potential legal problems, that oath be retaken at the appropriate time.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Mr President-elect,

I apologize for the inconvenience but I have you as having taken the oath at 10:14 am, Eastern Standard time, rather then Noon as specified in the Consitution of Atlasia. Therefore, I ask that for sake of avoiding any potential legal problems, that oath be retaken at the appropriate time.

I was thinking the same thing.  I don't know if it's absolutely necessary, the Consitution does say terms will begin at Noon, without mentioning the Oath, but it's probably for the best if you re-post it.

When at risk of being hauled before Sam Spade er Ebowed I guess, better to be safe then sorry.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Will you pledge to check each bill and committee thread ever day if elected?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Will you pledge to check each bill and committee thread ever day if elected?

There's no reason to check the committee threads, as they don't do anything of substance which differs from the Senate at-large OR they don't do anything at all for that matter.

Which is a perfect example of a sel-fullfilling prophesy, Talleyrand and thus why some of them never do anything and/or why we can never change that situation.

I just through the committees thread in their to be thorough, my main problem at this juncture is the slow speed at which Senators are voting. I even sent a PM asking the Senators to try and vote more often just two days or so ago and since then our number has shrunk by two. I hate to think I might have pushed one or both over the edge but considering the recent events, I think it very legitimate to ask this question, for you can be sure I will be expecting such from whoever ends up winning.

And just for the record "every day" isn't quite a hard standard, but I figure if people strive for every day then at the very least the frequency of voting will increase even if perfection is never reached.

Will you pledge to check each bill and committee thread ever day if elected?

I will be active and engaged, having worked with me before, hopefully you should know that

Yes, just like I worked with Kalwejt, Scott, Barnes, and BK before.  Now about that voting pledge, again....

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

If elected, what approach would you take to the Judicial Tenure Amendment?


Also, what direction would like to see the Education Bill take?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I have having a hard time navigating your campaign page now for some reason. It usually happens when someone posts with signature containing a lot of pictures that haven't been loaded before. So If I ask a question you have already answered for the most part that is why.

There have been lost of critiques against the Committee system established mid last year by the Senate. There is a presently a legislation that some would like to think abolishes them (that is an issue for later though). Do you think there is a way to salvage the system based around some more consolidation, with perhaps a clearer understanding of how the system is to be utilized as some have expressed a desire for, or would you just scrap it like many others want to do?

On a side note, do you support the preservation of the bifurcated Senate administration  (defined as the process by which both the PPT and VP have bills to adminster) started back in March and continuing under the Nix administration? Lastly, do you think that the Senate should maintain the non-partisan and impartial process that allows everyone to get legislation on the floor and not just those in the power structure?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Would you support having the bills that lacked committee support got fast tracked to an up or down final vote like I have been doing with the largely unsupported Drug bills in slot five?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Just to let you know, two your former bills are on the floor and I would very much like to you see your presence felt during the debate on them.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

So what are your plans for your second term?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Considering the present situation would a surplus be more of a positive or negative, thinking strictly of the present economic situation not aspirationally?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

The last time you "retired", the place went to hell in a hand basket.

You know me, and you know where I stand. It is a bit concerning to me, that I have colleagues about whom I know next to nothing about their actual views on policy.

The people deserve an open and honest campaign stating where you are even every election, regarding of opposition or not. Even in spite of immense limitations, I always campaigned on the issues I viewed as priorities even whilst unopposed precisely so that new people could get a sense of what I was about and those older folks knew I wasn't losing track of what I was elected to do in the first place. Whenever we get away from that it harms the game in my opinion since we are an elections game and campaigns are a critical aspect of that.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Those three options do not nearly come to grasp with the range of possible reforms, and none of thme really even target the root issues directly.


Dissolution - kills the game
Parlimentary - a radical change to be sure, but changing the nature of the national structure doesn't seem to operate on the nature of the game itself, at least not be itself.
Status quo - seems like an option mean to push for either one of two otherse because no one is really satifised with the way things are now.

For instance, Consolidating regions and devolving powers to the regions and creating new parties, but all under an American style system, that would fall under status quo, no?

Lastly, if we have gone so far down the rabbit hole that people don't like playing, wouldn't a Parliamentary system drive us completely over that cliff for anyone that is American (ie most of our participation base)?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Secondly Polnut, you make a lot of good points but you have to come to terms with the nature of the game from the perspective of a non-centrist.

Centrists do well under multi-party and small party allignments. But there is an inherent exclusivity involved there because for non-centrists, only the cool kids who have been around long enough to make friends can get ahead in that system.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Secondly Polnut, you make a lot of good points but you have to come to terms with the nature of the game from the perspective of a non-centrist.

Centrists do well under multi-party and small party allignments. But there is an inherent exclusivity involved there because for non-centrists, only the cool kids who have been around long enough to make friends can get ahead in that system.

I'm not coming at it from the perspective of being anything. I saw what happened to the GAME post-dissolution, it was a positive. It's up to everyone to work within the system and make it work for them. That's the challenge. The fact that the right couldn't hold themselves together is not the fault of the system.

Aside from your becoming PResident a second time, I didn't see much wonder in it. Especially once you left office.  

The right actually did okay, at first, because the left didn't turn anyone out in April 2012. But there was not much competition, it was the Liberals game and they scooped up some of our moderates as well like MoPolitico and a good deal of the Libertarian voting block also. "The fact that right couldn't hold itself together", that line though acknowledges my point that conservatives and Leftists do better with large parties, whilst centrists do better with smaller ones. As for the system, you say the game needs centrism. I would agree that it does, but it needs differences  in opinion to make elections about more then personality contests. To some extent that is unavoidable, but when it was Labor versus Federalists the elections often meant something. Even within the era of good feelings (Duke's term), those special elections (both decided by 1 vote) had clear issues at stake and the surprising thing was Labor let the right battle it out for that third seat rather than contest themselves in April 2014 (I was predicting a leftwing write-in as late as that Friday and asked that all Feds preference both Lumine and shua as 3rd/4th depending on their preference as insurance against an August 2013 repeat). And once Cincy became VP, the Right arguably had its best four months legislatively that it has ever had.

Conservatives will not keep participating if they constantly have either socialism or moderate liberals as the governing majorities. And even when the right won three seats in April 2012, the Regional Senators aside from myself were (three Liberals and a Laborite) and of course you were PResident. Three times there was a Conservative Senate majority (February 2009, bgwah was President; December 2011, Snowguy was President; and finally February and April 2014 with Duke as President). All three occured in eras dominated by a duopoly with smaller parties playing important rolls in the alignments.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I think we need to get people to get their views out there and clear. My suggestion would be a Parliamentary system, note... my suggestion. It's just an idea. Hence a plebiscite ... it doesn't bind anyone but can inform the development of more options.

Yes, but placing that against dissolution of the game and nothing, obviously is going to produce a fair assessment of opinion.

I would take consolidation over dissolution of the game. Put a gun to someone's head, of course they will agree to it.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

What was that game, in the Game board, that was basically a Parliamentary based elections sim? It lasted like six months.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

We have disagreed on a lot more than I would have figured on going in this past year, but in spite of that I am going to miss you in the Senate.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I "reluctantly concur".

It is a difficult task, even more so in this present climate. But there is a need for some effort to be made and if private entreaties down't work to get people to appoint, one could post a thread to ask for applications. I have seen this done previously as well. Regardless, not even trying is certainly not going to solve the problem.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

We have a lot of new faces that weren't even here last year, I am sure they will provide the leadership for the future. However, some support and guidance from the "old war horses", never hurts.


I am going to miss your presence in the game, it was always fun.