Obama asks for 1967 border as 'basis' for peace between Israel and Palestine
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« Reply #125 on: May 29, 2011, 09:23:06 PM »

Sarcasm?  Really!?
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« Reply #126 on: May 30, 2011, 06:21:40 AM »

The idea that population growth indicates a period of great prosperity and a total lack of violence against a people is perhaps a bit too awkward for me to seriously reply to it. The Chinese population has doubled, if not tripled since 1950. Yet at the same time the country went trough the hardships of the Mao years. Also, anyone who takes a look at the cards the Palestinians have been dealt, should feel at least a degree of empathy towards them.
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« Reply #127 on: May 30, 2011, 08:17:59 AM »

Yeah, I'd move the goal posts too.  Anyway, how many Palestinians were slaughtered?  If you're slaughtering a people for 60 years the numbers must be absolutely horrible.
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« Reply #128 on: May 30, 2011, 12:06:43 PM »

I'm not sure what you're trying to argue. You can't possibly be denying that 60 years of bloodshed has resulted in the violent death of quite a large number of Palestinian civilians.
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« Reply #129 on: May 30, 2011, 09:58:23 PM »

And quite a large number of Israeli civilians too, were they slaughtered?
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« Reply #130 on: May 31, 2011, 07:24:38 AM »

And quite a large number of Israeli civilians too, were they slaughtered?

Well, there's a difference between the victims of terrorism and those of organised violence as perpetrated by the Israeli government. It's purely semantics though. I'd prefer the term 'killed' in the later instance. And you're shifting away from what you were trying to say. According to you it would be incorrect to say Palestinians have been killed on a very large scale, 'because their population grew'. That still strikes me as a very poor argument.
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« Reply #131 on: May 31, 2011, 09:47:15 PM »

I'm just trying to show you how wrong it was for you to use the word "slaughter".  Perhaps I picked the wrong battle.
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