Canadian Liberal Leadership Election 2013

[Hatman 🍁]

Better yet, a delegated convention.

Why do you hate democracy?

[RogueBeaver]

CBC reporting that the supporter extension has been granted.

Hatman: Either/or. This supporter thing was just stupid. Good on paper, bad in practice. OMOV is fine if a) restricted to members b) works.

The book's being closed on this race already.

http://www2.macleans.ca/2013/03/13/and-so-the-justin-trudeau-years-begin/

http://www2.macleans.ca/2013/03/13/marc-garneau-the-spaceman-who-fell-to-earth/

http://www2.macleans.ca/2013/03/13/how-justin-trudeau-is-winning-quebec/

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2013/03/13/marc_garneaus_withdrawal_from_liberal_leadership_race_saves_himself_humiliation_hbert.html

[You kip if you want to...]

Can anyone tell this uninformed Brit what's so great about Justin Trudeau?

[Smid]

Can anyone tell this uninformed Brit what's so great about Justin Trudeau?

As a Brit, you should understand royalty and someone being born into a role.

[Hatman 🍁]

Can anyone tell this uninformed Brit what's so great about Justin Trudeau?

What was so great about George W. Bush?

[Hash]

Apparently the LPC got moving on the supporter/registration shazam, they confirmed my registration just now. The email reports that, as of now, 100,015/294,002 supporters are registered to vote. The deadline is extended to March 21.

[RogueBeaver]

Only Murray objected.

[DL]

Can anyone tell this uninformed Brit what's so great about Justin Trudeau?

NOTHING...he's just got a famous father

[adma]

Think of him as somewhere btw/ JFK Jr and Dubyah.

[RogueBeaver]

Bertschi dropped out. Hsu has switched his support from Garneau to Murray for ideological and coop reasons. The supposedly neutral Dion is also supporting Murray.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/trudeau-continues-to-dominate-liberal-leadership-race-as-bertschi-drops-out/article10054054/

[RogueBeaver]

Only 40% of supporters registered, voting turnout will also probably be down. Dunno about membership though.

On the $$$ front, Justin's now at $1.3 million.

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/national/Justin+Trudeau+money+magnet+rakes+million+Grit+leadership/8140700/story.html

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/trudeau-compiling-war-chest-to-fight-tory-attack-ads/article10254429/

[RogueBeaver]

Debate roundup. Key moments: Murray accusing MHF of being a petrool (1:32-35) and Justin's closing statement (2:26-29).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HE40ggiVTBU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DE8RBtAEel8

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2013/03/23/candidates_go_headtohead_in_final_debate_of_liberal_leadership_race.html

[Hatman 🍁]

I wish this were true: http://www.thestar.com/opinion/commentary/2013/03/26/liberal_leadership_candidate_joyce_murray_our_numbers_are_higher_than_anyone_elses.html

[RogueBeaver]

I didn't figure you, or any Dipper here, for a coop enthusiast. I do think she'll be the runner-up though.

On other notes, MHF is getting publicly criticized by Sgro, Bennett and Fry for being a self-promoting showboat who's not helping the Grit cause with her sharp attacks on Murray and JT. Plus calling people cowards for voting the exact same way she did on certain occasions. Scott Tribe agrees with them, as do I. Though dunno why her anti-supply management stance is such a BFD. Big Loaf and all that.

http://www.hilltimes.com/news/politics/2013/03/26/liberal-mps-criticize-hall-findlay%E2%80%99s-lengthy-attack-on-murray%E2%80%99s/34158#.UVIy694kDbg.twitter

[Hatman 🍁]

As a dipper, I'm not backing her for her policies. She could be the next coming of Hitler, and I would back her if she had a shot at beating Trudeau. Trudeau is the only hope the Liberals have of winning or even finishing 2nd in the next election.

[RogueBeaver]

Grits should not be amused with their voter numbers, but 3/4 of them are supporters. Milliken has endorsed Murray, who is also doing quite well w/$$$ in this week's support. Can't see how she doesn't place second.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/could-this-be-justin-trudeau-s-top-challenger-1.1215703


Exit interview with Rae.

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Analysis+does+gently+into+that+good+night/8166120/story.html

[RogueBeaver]

Members of FairVote are resigning over use of their e-mail list to solicit illegal funds for Murray. And no, this isn't an April Fool's joke.

[Hatman 🍁]

The press is having a huge orgasm over the Liberals getting more votes in their leadership contest than the NDP. (Well, it makes sense, considering how established the Liberals are... their support may be a mile wide, but an inch deep... or does that better describe the NDP?)

Here are their eligible voters by province:

B.C.: 16,098

Alberta: 9,302

Saskatchewan: 2,700

Manitoba: 4,444

Ontario: 59,474

Quebec: 14,577

New Brunswick: 6,889

Nova Scotia: 7,425

P.E.I: 2,611

Newfoundland and Labrador: 3,149

Nunavut: 56

Northwest Territories: 176

Yukon: 223

Compare to the NDP membership before the convention:

Alberta   9800
British Columbia   39859
Manitoba   11991
New Brunswick   946
Newfoundland and Labrador   974
Nova Scotia   3904
Northwest Territories   124
Nunavut   24
Ontario   36965
Prince Edward Island   262
Quebec   13987
Saskatchewan   11243
Yukon   747

[RogueBeaver]

Meanwhile Justin is saying "steady as he goes" on the economy. No tax changes, dovish on the deficit. Not that there's much daylight between Flaherty and Brison anyways.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/quebec-canada/politique-canadienne/201304/11/01-4639753-justin-trudeau-ramener-les-quebecois-vers-la-gouvernance-du-pays.php

[Hatman 🍁]

Today's the day!

Here's my cartographic analysis: http://canadianelectionatlas.blogspot.ca/2013/04/federal-liberal-leadership-maps.html

[RogueBeaver]

Results 30-40 minutes from now. Most expect 60-80% for JT on the ballot.

[MaxQue]

Still no results, and they just missed the 6PM news. Hard to believe there are the natural governing party, they look amateur and unorganized, now.

It's not with that kind of errors they will beat Harper and Mulcair.

[RogueBeaver]

These things often run late.

Anyhoo, here it goes.

Trudeau with 80.1%.

[MaxQue]

These things often run late.

Anyhoo, here it goes.

Trudeau with 80.1%.

Indeed, I'm quite aware (NDP is the same). The logical thing would have been to begin the event at 4:30 or 4:00, instead of 5PM, then.

[RogueBeaver]

Era of hyphenated Liberals ends right here, right now, tonight.