one that is ten times more Conservative then this one right now the reason the districts in NY look really weird is not just because of the voting rights act but because of the fact that they gerrymandered the jewish areas in southern Brooklyn to an extent that surpasses the deep south during Jimmy Crow. Right now the Contiguous Orthodox Jewish areas in Brooklyn (I'm defining this as EDs that are over 50% Orthodox) have 6 congressional districts (8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th (though I admit this is only a very small portion in this ED), 13th) and the Jewish neighborhood of Flatbush now has 5 Congressional districts (I looked around the country and I couldn't find any other neighborhood that even has 3 Congressional districts)
that's due to orthodox Jewish populations strong social Conservative positions and strong Israel support has been in many elections voting Republican ever since at least the 80's (right now there are EDs that can flip 90% either way depending on numerous factors) (Borough Park had a Contiguous area with 50,00 people that voted for McCain at over a 90% rate (though they decided to put this area in to Nadler's seat to dilute the Jewish vote))
Uh, Nadler's CD is easily among the top 10 CD's in % Jewish in the nation.
As for redistricting, Dems should not agree to eliminate NY-9 (if Turner wins) and a Democratic seat upstate. NY-9 under current boundaries is a Lean Dem CD at least, so Dems would be losing both CD's. Upstate can easily shore up Hochul and/or carve up one of the GOP CD's especially with Slaughter's CD overpacked (not for GOP gerry, but for Quinn's incumbency, but the point is the same).
