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« on: June 10, 2011, 03:15:41 PM »
« edited: June 10, 2011, 04:05:34 PM by Refudiate »

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/8567022/Labour-coup-Ed-Balls-and-his-five-fellow-plotters.html

Why can the media never let this go? We get it, Brown hated his boss from about 2002, onwards, Brown turned out to be a very media-unfriendly PM, Ed Balls was Brown's top man and Ed Miliband was also in there with the Brownites somewhere.

Although, i'm surprised nothing big's ever came out about Miliband's role in all this. Saying that, should there be anything out in the coming days about Miliband, I suppose that it could give the all clear for the Blairites to start closing in on him... Although, there's also a possibility Miliband leaked them himself to torpedo any hopes of a Balls coup - we all know Miliband isn't worried about damaging "allies".
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« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2011, 07:25:28 PM »

Is there really much difference between them ideologically?

I'd say the Blairites are a tiny bit more to the right, but not really.
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« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2011, 07:48:16 PM »
« Edited: June 11, 2011, 08:01:10 PM by Refudiate »

The story seems to have started to creep into an area that could be described as "toxic" or "leadership crisis" over the last 24 hours. Could just be the Daily Fail, but it's worth keeping a check on.

Apparently some of Balls' own supporters have been saying stuff along the lines of he'd be the "Mad man next door" is Miliband ever took over in number 10 and Ed's been openly "slagging him off in colourful language". I wonder if Ed's people made the leaks. Some Miliband supporters have also been saying that they'll give him until conference to turn things around or he'll be out soon enough.

But then again, this is Labour. By definition, we're not the Tories, so we don't do "division" or "leadership crisis" very well.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/jun/11/ed-miliband-labour-leader-leaks
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2002631/Ed-Miliband-s-dislike-macho-Ed-Balls-open-secret.html#ixzz1P0edYExG

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Sums up my own views of him quite well, to be honest.

But then again, if David replaced Ed, i'd be happy with the leader, but it could be the worst decision Labour could make. The Shakespearean Miliband tragedy would be too much. Double fraternacide? Really?
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« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2011, 08:16:13 PM »

David's "Leader's Speech that never was" has also been leaked.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-miliband-poised-to-replace-brother-say-friends-2296525.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/jun/10/david-miliband-labour-leadership-speech
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« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2011, 11:23:36 AM »

If I could vote in the leadership election again:
1 David
2 Burnham
3 Balls
4 Ed Miliband
5 Diane
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« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2011, 05:53:59 PM »

ICM is showing Miliband more unpopualr than Clegg, just by the way. Although, I think there's a difference between loathing (Clegg) and the perception of sheer incompetance (Ed).
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