Should Anthony Weiner resign?

[milhouse24]

I think he should resign because it looks bad from a PR standpoint and for the party.  Go hide for 2 years and then run for mayor, people forget things, and he might actually win.  The point is to stay out of the news and make people forget how much of a scumbag you are.  Look at George Allen, he's going to be Senator again, and he's not as bad as what Weiner did. 

Sure, Weiner can become the white version of Rangel, who is censured and just riding out retirement in the HOR.  But does Weiner really want to go through a Headline grabbing and fund-raising zapping ethics investigation?  Resign, take your public punishment, then in 1 year start calling up all the big donors and explain how you learned your lesson, went into sext rehab with tiger woods, and are now ready to be the next mayor of NYC.  Besides, he really enjoyed being a stay at home dad to his newborn child, learned the values of fatherhood, the importance of family, etc. etc. 

My prediction, he resigns on some Friday, maybe before July 4th, when every one is on vacation and no one notices.  Just like Keiser Soze, he was gone, poof. 

Plus it gives him more time and freedom to stalk facebook and twitter and maybe some CL.

[milhouse24]

The correct answer as usual is: MONEY, M-O-N-E-Y!!!

Fundraising!

Weiner will resign because none of the rich liberal wall street jewish supporters will give him any money for his re-election or his Mayoral candidate.  Without any campaign money, he's just a dead man walking. 

Once some big time donor tells him to quit being a HOR, then Weiner will quit.

As for the DNC, this is a distraction from Fund-raising for 2012 and the donors are running for the hills this week/month.  Pick up the call from a DNC telemarketer and tell them what you think of Weiner, keep them on the phone for 30 minutes, and then hang up on them. 

[milhouse24]

No.  Chris Lee shouldn't have either.

You do realize that Chris Lee probably resigned because his wife was going to leave him if he stayed in DC with all the lobbyist groupies.  Sure Lee could have ridden it out, but he would have lost his family and children in the process. 

Lee did the right thing personally because his career and affairs were taking up more importance than his family and children.  He wanted to get back home to a normal life.  That's commendable.

[milhouse24]

I think he should resign because it looks bad from a PR standpoint and for the party.  Go hide for 2 years and then run for mayor, people forget things, and he might actually win.  The point is to stay out of the news and make people forget how much of a scumbag you are.  Look at George Allen, he's going to be Senator again, and he's not as bad as what Weiner did. 

Sure, Weiner can become the white version of Rangel, who is censured and just riding out retirement in the HOR.  But does Weiner really want to go through a Headline grabbing and fund-raising zapping ethics investigation?  Resign, take your public punishment, then in 1 year start calling up all the big donors and explain how you learned your lesson, went into sext rehab with tiger woods, and are now ready to be the next mayor of NYC.  Besides, he really enjoyed being a stay at home dad to his newborn child, learned the values of fatherhood, the importance of family, etc. etc. 

My prediction, he resigns on some Friday, maybe before July 4th, when every one is on vacation and no one notices.  Just like Keiser Soze, he was gone, poof. 

Plus it gives him more time and freedom to stalk facebook and twitter and maybe some CL.

And this my friend is why anyone with brown skin has a natural distrust of the Republican party.  What Weiner did was a consensual exchange between adults in presumed privacy.

You do realize that it is illegal to send naked photos to minors or written lewd communication.  Also, its considered sexual harassment to send naked photos to strangers, that Weiner never even met in person.  For God Sake, some of the women could have been Men/Private Detectives/RNC activists who pretended to be young women entrapping him to commit these morally reprehensive behavior.  The Women were complete STRANGERS, they were not his friends, girlfriends, co-workers, constituents.  He NEVER MET THEM BEFORE and he's sending them pictures of his Weiner?  How can you consider that an adult dating relationship?  There are millions of Sexual Predators on Myspace and online that entice women and contribute to misogynistic culture of sexual gratification.  He was not looking for friends to donate to his campaign, he was sadistically manipulating these women for his personal urges because he was a famous politician abusing his power over young vulnerable women.  If you trust Weiner so much, have your daughters, or nieces work for him as an intern, it must be fun.

[milhouse24]

... There are millions of Sexual Predators on Myspace and online that entice women and contribute to misogynistic culture of sexual gratification.  He was not looking for friends to donate to his campaign, he was sadistically manipulating these women for his personal urges because he was a famous politician abusing his power over young vulnerable women.

milhouse, you have to be kidding.  No one is such a prude.

Those sluts were begging to see his schlong - that's what they do on there.  You need to get over your chauvinism.

Awesome, blame the female groupie!  Just sleep your way to the top, then sell the photos for money, because men make more than women because women just get pregnant and voluntarily quit the workforce, lots of money is wasted on college education for women who won't use their degrees.  Yes, and Lewisnsky sucked Bill off because he was some random used car salesman; and not the most powerful man in the world with a harem of concubines.  Besides, women are pro-choice because they're sluts who can't control their urges or know how to use birth control or contraceptives.  LOL.  Everything is the women's fault and their skanky outfits.

[milhouse24]

Awesome, blame the female ... Everything is the women's fault and their skanky outfits.

I can't blame anyone nor think anyone is 'at fault' because I don't think anything 'wrong' or bad was done.  Everyone has naughty parts, milhouse, both men and ladies, and they all want sex.. oh, and monogamy is a perversion.

Hah, I'm actually anti-marriage myself, no need for govt interference in people's personal lives.  Marriage as an institution in need of govt certificates is outdated and unnecessary.  Humans do not want to live monogamous lives, well at least Men don't want to live monogamous lives. 

But I do agree with you that it was a secret Right Wing conspiracy to entrap Weiner into cybering with these women and sending compromising photos that can be used as political weapons against the National Democratic party in a tight election year.  But it was just between 2 consenting strangers, and one of them was a guy who could not get laid anonymously but instead had to tell everyone he was a congressman.  Think how strange that is, he told these women he was a famous powerful married congressman, and he wanted to have sexty talk with them and send naked photos.  Do you realize that that is an insane thing to do for a semi-famous public official on every RW hit list?  If he's guilty of one thing, its not that he's an online sext addict, but he's also insanely politically stupid. 

Sure Weiner has personal problems at the moment.  But the bigger picture is that this is the RNC vs. the DNC and its warfare, every minor issue is warfare.  Family Values, Health Care, Jobs, Economy.  Also, everyone wants to get paid - if I had lewd photos of Weiner's Weiner, I would sell them to the National Enquirer for thousands of dollars, or photos of Clinton holding hands with a hot woman, Chris Lee, Mehlman kissing Lindsay G, etc.

[milhouse24]

I think he should resign because it looks bad from a PR standpoint and for the party.  Go hide for 2 years and then run for mayor, people forget things, and he might actually win.  The point is to stay out of the news and make people forget how much of a scumbag you are.  Look at George Allen, he's going to be Senator again, and he's not as bad as what Weiner did. 

Sure, Weiner can become the white version of Rangel, who is censured and just riding out retirement in the HOR.  But does Weiner really want to go through a Headline grabbing and fund-raising zapping ethics investigation?  Resign, take your public punishment, then in 1 year start calling up all the big donors and explain how you learned your lesson, went into sext rehab with tiger woods, and are now ready to be the next mayor of NYC.  Besides, he really enjoyed being a stay at home dad to his newborn child, learned the values of fatherhood, the importance of family, etc. etc. 

My prediction, he resigns on some Friday, maybe before July 4th, when every one is on vacation and no one notices.  Just like Keiser Soze, he was gone, poof. 

Plus it gives him more time and freedom to stalk facebook and twitter and maybe some CL.

And this my friend is why anyone with brown skin has a natural distrust of the Republican party.  What Weiner did was a consensual exchange between adults in presumed privacy.

You do realize that it is illegal to send naked photos to minors or written lewd communication.  Also, its considered sexual harassment to send naked photos to strangers, that Weiner never even met in person.  For God Sake, some of the women could have been Men/Private Detectives/RNC activists who pretended to be young women entrapping him to commit these morally reprehensive behavior.  The Women were complete STRANGERS, they were not his friends, girlfriends, co-workers, constituents.  He NEVER MET THEM BEFORE and he's sending them pictures of his Weiner?  How can you consider that an adult dating relationship?  There are millions of Sexual Predators on Myspace and online that entice women and contribute to misogynistic culture of sexual gratification.  He was not looking for friends to donate to his campaign, he was sadistically manipulating these women for his personal urges because he was a famous politician abusing his power over young vulnerable women.  If you trust Weiner so much, have your daughters, or nieces work for him as an intern, it must be fun.

your assumption that women couldn't want some sexual gratification themselves, and that if they said they did then they had to have been manipulated by a guy seems much more chauvinistic than anything Weiner did.

And sadistically? Really? You think Weiner sent lewd photos to those women because he wanted to see them suffer? That makes no sense.

Yes, Rich powerful politicians are easily manipulated by single moms on facebook and white house interns.  Hello Secret Service, yes, pick up these women for me, no reason needed. 

[milhouse24]

I only support his resignation if substantial evidence is revealed showing that he broke the law. I haven't seen that yet.

You'd think with the salary that tax-payers are paying him, he would have better things to do than spend all day on twitter and facebook cybersexting with younger women.  He's one horny dude who can't control himself.  larry flynt still sends you those monthly issues, just use those. 

But ultimately its up to the Campaign donors who give him money to decide whether he stays or goes.  Some people could make a case for unwanted harassment or sexual harrasment or corrupting a minor or invasion of privacy. I don't know, it would be handled in civil court or arbitration or quietly settled with hush money.

[milhouse24]

I think he should resign because it looks bad from a PR standpoint and for the party.  Go hide for 2 years and then run for mayor, people forget things, and he might actually win.  The point is to stay out of the news and make people forget how much of a scumbag you are.  Look at George Allen, he's going to be Senator again, and he's not as bad as what Weiner did. 

Sure, Weiner can become the white version of Rangel, who is censured and just riding out retirement in the HOR.  But does Weiner really want to go through a Headline grabbing and fund-raising zapping ethics investigation?  Resign, take your public punishment, then in 1 year start calling up all the big donors and explain how you learned your lesson, went into sext rehab with tiger woods, and are now ready to be the next mayor of NYC.  Besides, he really enjoyed being a stay at home dad to his newborn child, learned the values of fatherhood, the importance of family, etc. etc. 

My prediction, he resigns on some Friday, maybe before July 4th, when every one is on vacation and no one notices.  Just like Keiser Soze, he was gone, poof. 

Plus it gives him more time and freedom to stalk facebook and twitter and maybe some CL.

And this my friend is why anyone with brown skin has a natural distrust of the Republican party.  What Weiner did was a consensual exchange between adults in presumed privacy.

You do realize that it is illegal to send naked photos to minors or written lewd communication.  Also, its considered sexual harassment to send naked photos to strangers, that Weiner never even met in person.  For God Sake, some of the women could have been Men/Private Detectives/RNC activists who pretended to be young women entrapping him to commit these morally reprehensive behavior.  The Women were complete STRANGERS, they were not his friends, girlfriends, co-workers, constituents.  He NEVER MET THEM BEFORE and he's sending them pictures of his Weiner?  How can you consider that an adult dating relationship?  There are millions of Sexual Predators on Myspace and online that entice women and contribute to misogynistic culture of sexual gratification.  He was not looking for friends to donate to his campaign, he was sadistically manipulating these women for his personal urges because he was a famous politician abusing his power over young vulnerable women.  If you trust Weiner so much, have your daughters, or nieces work for him as an intern, it must be fun.

your assumption that women couldn't want some sexual gratification themselves, and that if they said they did then they had to have been manipulated by a guy seems much more chauvinistic than anything Weiner did.

And sadistically? Really? You think Weiner sent lewd photos to those women because he wanted to see them suffer? That makes no sense.

Yes, Rich powerful politicians are easily manipulated by single moms on facebook and white house interns.  Hello Secret Service, yes, pick up these women for me, no reason needed. 

You're using a straw man, I never said the women manipulated anyone, just that there was mutual consent.

You can disagree, but do you really think a young naive poorer woman can have a mutually consensual relationship with a "powerful" congressman or "powerful" President of the United States.  Just think about it, one person can pick up the phone and call the secret service, fbi, cia, local police etc. if you piss them off or decline their sexual advances. 

The relationship between the President of the US or a Congressman and an intern is not mutual because the power structure is so imbalanced. 

Now I do agree that these woman secretly used Weiner so that they could blackmail him or sell the photos, messages, to the highest bidder.  These women loved cyber-sexting with a famous and powerful men.  Its human nature, women desire powerful men, women need to feel safe and secure and have their fantasies of a prince charming.  Weiner got off on their beauty and the women got off on the power and the fame.  That's just human nature.

Now, what if Weiner was a school teacher, because he would have a morality clause in his contract, and would be fired for doing anything considered indecent or a poor role model.  Can a male school teacher send naked photos to random women on the internet who he has never met?  Would someone in such a prestigious position as a schoolteacher be treated with a different set a rules as a supposedly more prestigious Congressman who is also supposed to be a role model for children?  I do agree its unfair to be a role model and live up to the pressures, but Weiner makes a high salary, paid by the Tax payers, so I don't feel bad for the embaressment that he's gone through, just as long as he continues bombing dark skinned people.  I support Weiner and so should you.

[milhouse24]

Yes.

I don't care either way.  Everyone loses.  But the RNC gains more money every day he stays in office.  The DNC loses more money every day he stays in office. 

Its up to his wall street friends if they support him or not.  Why did he get married in the first place - oh yeah, because he's a social climber who wants to have dinner with Bill and Hillary Clinton, BFF forever!

[milhouse24]

The fine folks at Twitter are pretty pissed at him.  Generally speaking, online tech companies don't like to be falsely accused of hacking or that their website has been compromised because the threat of security holes is very real and they do take it very seriously.  Not only as a business service, but because any user who suspects that the website is negligent or incapable of protecting their names, e-mail address, birthday, real address, and private communications, will flee and potentially even sue the site for privacy leaks. 

Just imagine if an online forum was hacked, and the hacker found real names, phone numbers, e-mail addresses, real addresses, and private e-mails and spread them, blackmailed you, or id theft.  Everyone using that site would be pretty pissed. 

So Thanks to Mr Weiner, he may have increased awareness for Twitter hacking protection, but in doing so, he threw the entire Twitter support team under the bus.  I know that they are glad that Mister Weiner finally admitted to the truth that there was no hacking.  Any one who saw the IP logins to his account can tell there was no hacking, and they can also see his perverted private DMs to Ginger Lee the porn star he was actually trying to send the photos to.  It will be interesting to see if the HOR investigative committee subpoenas the Twitter and Facebook records of Mr Weiner and determines if he used govt equipment to communicate with these young women. 

But I think Twitter has stumbled upon a business model, increased security and conceirge service for Verified accounts, particularly philandering politicians.  Weiner needs tech support to figure out how to DM compromising photos correctly.

[milhouse24]

For what its worth, Weiner's out - probably resigning on Monday or when his wife gets back if he wants to wait longer.  His staff is looking for new jobs.  Basically, the Caucus will expel him and prevent him or his staff from doing anything if Weiner decides to stay.  It will basically be a career killer for anyone on his staff because they will have stayed on a sinking ship and seen as disloyal to the democratic party leadership.  Basically, its time to choose sides, you're either with Weiner or your with Pelosi, and Pelosi's not going anywhere, so the Weiner staff is making the smart move and abandoning their shirtless leader.

http://biggovernment.com/publius/2011/06/12/weiner-staff-heading-for-the-exits/

Frankly, Weiner's weiner is a distraction and Pelosi is sick of seeing his cock pictures on TMZ.
I don't even know why Weiner wants to stay, he wants to be mayor of NYC, so resign and start running for mayor in a few months.  He's only hurting the Democratic Party by staying, and if he has any loyalty to anyone besides himself, he should be loyal to the Party and do the right thing by going away.  Any sane and loyal Democrat will realize that the quicker Weiner is gone, the better chances Obama will be re-elected in 2012, otherwise this is the first step in a Republican landslide.

[milhouse24]

Uh, no one is going to vote against Obama because of this. This has absolutely nothing to do with Obama.

Come on, you just don't get it.  Its not just about Weiner's job and his Weiner photos.

This is about the Democratic Party as a whole with the Democrats in Congress and the national party.  The Weiner issues have become a distraction to whatever message the Democrats want to have in their 2012 election cycle.  The longer Weiner stays and the longer Weiner photos are on TMZ and drudge, the worse it is for the other Democrats in Congress and yes, it also hurts Obama by association, maybe just a little, but its something that Obama does not want to deal with, some horny congressman who's weiner photos are shown to everyone in America, is not going to help Obama's marketing campaign for re-election.

The Republicans want Weiner to stay because he will become the new Evil Democrat Poster Boy for a godless morally corrupt Democratic Party.  Its really that simple.  Weiner's no Bill Clinton and Weiner is not the President, he's some small time social climber who's trying to marry his way up in the world.

[milhouse24]

I feel suffocated by the prudery after reading this thread. 

That McDonalds picture is a fake by the way.

[milhouse24]

I was under the impression that Weiner wants to run for NYC mayor.  Therefore its pointless to stay in the HOR.  If I were him, I would only leave if I got financial donations from Pelosi and other Democrats for his mayoral campaign, sure its blackmailing other Democrats, but he really wants to be mayor more than he wants to be a congressman.  Weiner just wants a buyout, or maybe he really needs that congressional health care plan for his wife's pregnancy, I hear its the best hmo in the nation.

[milhouse24]

I was under the impression that Weiner wants to run for NYC mayor.  Therefore its pointless to stay in the HOR.  If I were him, I would only leave if I got financial donations from Pelosi and other Democrats for his mayoral campaign, sure its blackmailing other Democrats, but he really wants to be mayor more than he wants to be a congressman.  Weiner just wants a buyout, or maybe he really needs that congressional health care plan for his wife's pregnancy, I hear its the best hmo in the nation.

Weiner is NOT going to be NYC mayor anytime soon.  As I stated before NYC mayor is NOT a consolation prize for disgraced politicians.  Without his House seat Weiner is nothing.  Weiner's biggest concern at the moment should be redistricting.  Polls show his constituents support him... at the moment.

But I don't know why he wants to stay in Congress, does he want to be a lifer?  I think he can still run for mayor, he would be the biggest name on the ballot if Alec Baldwin stays out.  New Yorkers don't care about his multiple Weiner pics, in fact, he should own it and tape a Weiner photo to his forward.  "Look I'm proud of my Weiner and my name is Weiner, so vote for Weiner" - but he might get arrested for disseminating lewd pictures.  New Yorkers love him for some inexplicable reason, and so do women now that they seen him and our turned on, he is a shoe-in for mayor. 

Also, he'll be kicked out of the Democrat Caucus soon, so he's got that going for him.

[milhouse24]

I feel suffocated by the prudery after reading this thread. 

I think most sane democrats would agree that Weiner's Weiner is a huge distraction and if he were loyal to the party instead of a selfish arrogant ambitious idiot, he would resign as well. 

He's got no future in the Democratic congress and he won't get any chairman positions and he'll lose his committees. 

[milhouse24]

I was under the impression that Weiner wants to run for NYC mayor.  Therefore its pointless to stay in the HOR.  If I were him, I would only leave if I got financial donations from Pelosi and other Democrats for his mayoral campaign, sure its blackmailing other Democrats, but he really wants to be mayor more than he wants to be a congressman.  Weiner just wants a buyout, or maybe he really needs that congressional health care plan for his wife's pregnancy, I hear its the best hmo in the nation.

Weiner is NOT going to be NYC mayor anytime soon.  As I stated before NYC mayor is NOT a consolation prize for disgraced politicians.  Without his House seat Weiner is nothing.  Weiner's biggest concern at the moment should be redistricting.  Polls show his constituents support him... at the moment.

But I don't know why he wants to stay in Congress, does he want to be a lifer?  I think he can still run for mayor, he would be the biggest name on the ballot if Alec Baldwin stays out.  New Yorkers don't care about his multiple Weiner pics, in fact, he should own it and tape a Weiner photo to his forward.  "Look I'm proud of my Weiner and my name is Weiner, so vote for Weiner" - but he might get arrested for disseminating lewd pictures.  New Yorkers love him for some inexplicable reason, and so do women now that they seen him and our turned on, he is a shoe-in for mayor. 

Also, he'll be kicked out of the Democrat Caucus soon, so he's got that going for him.

I haven't seen his city wide polling numbers.  Just because his current constituents support him doesn't mean he's going to win in Rangel's district and vica versa.  Until I see some polling numbers that are city wide I have my doubts.

The other thing is I don't think this guy can do anything else.  He can be kicked off every plum committee he's on and be banished to congressional Siberia.  Its still better than being a jobless disgraced politician with a baby on the way.

He'll have a really lucrative lobbying contract the second he resigns.  His district is part of Wall Street or near it.  Granted, he'll no longer have the title of congressman, and I know deep down he only cares about being famous to get chicks on the internet if he's a congressmen. 

No cyber girl will want cybersext with a "lobbyist-former disgraced congressman"

[milhouse24]

I was under the impression that Weiner wants to run for NYC mayor.  Therefore its pointless to stay in the HOR.  If I were him, I would only leave if I got financial donations from Pelosi and other Democrats for his mayoral campaign, sure its blackmailing other Democrats, but he really wants to be mayor more than he wants to be a congressman.  Weiner just wants a buyout, or maybe he really needs that congressional health care plan for his wife's pregnancy, I hear its the best hmo in the nation.

Weiner is NOT going to be NYC mayor anytime soon.  As I stated before NYC mayor is NOT a consolation prize for disgraced politicians.  Without his House seat Weiner is nothing.  Weiner's biggest concern at the moment should be redistricting.  Polls show his constituents support him... at the moment.

But I don't know why he wants to stay in Congress, does he want to be a lifer?  I think he can still run for mayor, he would be the biggest name on the ballot if Alec Baldwin stays out.  New Yorkers don't care about his multiple Weiner pics, in fact, he should own it and tape a Weiner photo to his forward.  "Look I'm proud of my Weiner and my name is Weiner, so vote for Weiner" - but he might get arrested for disseminating lewd pictures.  New Yorkers love him for some inexplicable reason, and so do women now that they seen him and our turned on, he is a shoe-in for mayor. 

Also, he'll be kicked out of the Democrat Caucus soon, so he's got that going for him.

I haven't seen his city wide polling numbers.  Just because his current constituents support him doesn't mean he's going to win in Rangel's district and vica versa.  Until I see some polling numbers that are city wide I have my doubts.

The other thing is I don't think this guy can do anything else.  He can be kicked off every plum committee he's on and be banished to congressional Siberia.  Its still better than being a jobless disgraced politician with a baby on the way.

He'll have a really lucrative lobbying contract the second he resigns.  His district is part of Wall Street or near it.  Granted, he'll no longer have the title of congressman, and I know deep down he only cares about being famous to get chicks on the internet if he's a congressmen. 

No cyber girl will want cybersext with a "lobbyist-former disgraced congressman"

I just don't think he has enough panache to be a lobbyist.  The guy is toxic.,  The only thing that's going to heal his credibility is time and being in congress.  He really doesn't have any other options.

If he was a lobbyist would you take a call from him?  None of the Democratic leadership will take this guy's phone calls.  When you buy a lobbyist you're buying access.  I don't know how much Weiner's diminished roledex is worth on the open market.

I would think there would be firms seeking a liberal jewish wall street savvy politician, who knows how not to use social media.  Women's groups seem to like him so there's always planned parenthood.

[milhouse24]

Apparently obama just said hed resign if he was Weiner.

Well then my position changes. Weiner should resign ASAP.

Hah, you think an arrogant selfish sociopath would listen to the President?