The Gay Empire State

[Smash255]

No decision basically seems like "haha no" to me.

Skelos is trying to figure out what Cuomo is going to do. If there is a vote and it fails, the Senate Map is going to the courts. If Gay Marriage cant pass with a 32-30 GOP majority it can not pass with a larger one, so signing a GOP map would be effectively telling Gays and Gay donors to wait until 2023. And that would be fatal for a Cuomo Presidential bid, especially when expectations have been raised so high and the issue is so high profile.

So if Skelos wants to block it the best bet is to not hold a vote. But he doesn't know if that would piss Cuomo off enough to still send the legislative lines off to the courts.

I really don't see how the GOP can make the current map more Republican.  Its already almost as gerrymandered as possible.

[JohnnyLongtorso]

Unless I'm mistaken, Long Island has an all-Republican delegation in the Senate.

[Smash255]

Unless I'm mistaken, Long Island has an all-Republican delegation in the Senate.

Indeed they do after the 2010 election.  I was thinking Foley won reelection.  I guess not.

They could also lose a number of the LI districts they do have.  Martins who narrowly beat Johnson last time around is in a fairly Dem leaning district, and its not like the district could be made safer more GOP without hurting other Republicans, especially considering Hannon's close race in 2008.

[Lunar]

It passed the State Assembly tonight. At least three NYC Dem Assembly votes (Karim Camara, Nick Perry, Nelson Castro) switched from no to yes from 2009.

[JohnnyLongtorso]

Perry is Jamaican, it's shocking that he would vote for it.

How many Republicans voted for it? I found two: Marcus Molinaro and Annie Rabbitt.

[Barnes]

It passed the State Assembly tonight. At least three NYC Dem Assembly votes (Karim Camara, Nick Perry, Nelson Castro) switched from no to yes from 2009.

What were the numbers?

[Lunar]

I found the full vote:

http://htmlimg4.scribdassets.com/6mvwnoio00107xpf/images/1-e79fd52199.jpg

[they don't love you like i love you]

No decision basically seems like "haha no" to me.

Skelos is trying to figure out what Cuomo is going to do. If there is a vote and it fails, the Senate Map is going to the courts. If Gay Marriage cant pass with a 32-30 GOP majority it can not pass with a larger one, so signing a GOP map would be effectively telling Gays and Gay donors to wait until 2023. And that would be fatal for a Cuomo Presidential bid, especially when expectations have been raised so high and the issue is so high profile.

So if Skelos wants to block it the best bet is to not hold a vote. But he doesn't know if that would piss Cuomo off enough to still send the legislative lines off to the courts.

Thing is, even if you preserve the current map the GOP's loss of it eventually is almost inevitable, there aren't any vulnerable Democrats and they already hold two seats on paper they have no chance in, plus things like an all Republican delegation from Long Island obviously aren't sustainable in a half-decent Democratic year.

[Lunar]

Assemblyman Dov Hikind holding up a Lady Gaga picture during the gay marriage debate:

[Dan the Roman]

No decision basically seems like "haha no" to me.

Skelos is trying to figure out what Cuomo is going to do. If there is a vote and it fails, the Senate Map is going to the courts. If Gay Marriage cant pass with a 32-30 GOP majority it can not pass with a larger one, so signing a GOP map would be effectively telling Gays and Gay donors to wait until 2023. And that would be fatal for a Cuomo Presidential bid, especially when expectations have been raised so high and the issue is so high profile.

So if Skelos wants to block it the best bet is to not hold a vote. But he doesn't know if that would piss Cuomo off enough to still send the legislative lines off to the courts.

Thing is, even if you preserve the current map the GOP's loss of it eventually is almost inevitable, there aren't any vulnerable Democrats and they already hold two seats on paper they have no chance in, plus things like an all Republican delegation from Long Island obviously aren't sustainable in a half-decent Democratic year.

There is another possibility that needs to be considered. Given how late in the year redistricting is being left to, there is nor requirement that new lines be drawn for the legislature by 2012. Congressional lines yes, but I could easily see a court deciding to hold the 2012 elections under the current lines in the event of a dispute. There is plenty of precedent for it.

[they don't love you like i love you]

No decision basically seems like "haha no" to me.

Skelos is trying to figure out what Cuomo is going to do. If there is a vote and it fails, the Senate Map is going to the courts. If Gay Marriage cant pass with a 32-30 GOP majority it can not pass with a larger one, so signing a GOP map would be effectively telling Gays and Gay donors to wait until 2023. And that would be fatal for a Cuomo Presidential bid, especially when expectations have been raised so high and the issue is so high profile.

So if Skelos wants to block it the best bet is to not hold a vote. But he doesn't know if that would piss Cuomo off enough to still send the legislative lines off to the courts.

Thing is, even if you preserve the current map the GOP's loss of it eventually is almost inevitable, there aren't any vulnerable Democrats and they already hold two seats on paper they have no chance in, plus things like an all Republican delegation from Long Island obviously aren't sustainable in a half-decent Democratic year.

There is another possibility that needs to be considered. Given how late in the year redistricting is being left to, there is nor requirement that new lines be drawn for the legislature by 2012. Congressional lines yes, but I could easily see a court deciding to hold the 2012 elections under the current lines in the event of a dispute. There is plenty of precedent for it.

Well then if the Democrats knock off Grisanti and at least one Long Island Republican they have the Senate and then can draw a gerrymander.

[they don't love you like i love you]

Oh btw I just played around and the best type of district I can get for Grisanti without endangering neighboring Republicans is like 65% Obama. That's certainly an improvement over 77% Obama, but it's obviously not a district where I'd bet on any Republican.

[JohnnyLongtorso]

I found the full vote:

http://htmlimg4.scribdassets.com/6mvwnoio00107xpf/images/1-e79fd52199.jpg

Weird, this article lists two Republicans that voted for it.

[krazen1211]

Super Bowl hero warns of 'anarchy' if NY approves gay marriage


http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/06/16/new.york.gay.marriage.tyree/

Former New York Giants receiver David Tyree's celebrated catch in the closing seconds of Super Bowl XLII was pivotal to his team's victory. Now out of football, he is trying to claim a last-minute win over another foe -- same-sex marriage.

[Insula Dei]

Super Bowl hero warns of 'anarchy' if NY approves gay marriage


http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/06/16/new.york.gay.marriage.tyree/

Former New York Giants receiver David Tyree's celebrated catch in the closing seconds of Super Bowl XLII was pivotal to his team's victory. Now out of football, he is trying to claim a last-minute win over another foe -- same-sex marriage.

wtf

[Capitan Zapp Brannigan]

Super Bowl hero warns of 'anarchy' if NY approves gay marriage


http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/06/16/new.york.gay.marriage.tyree/

Former New York Giants receiver David Tyree's celebrated catch in the closing seconds of Super Bowl XLII was pivotal to his team's victory. Now out of football, he is trying to claim a last-minute win over another foe -- same-sex marriage.

Strahan > Tyree

[danny]

Super Bowl hero warns of 'anarchy' if NY approves gay marriage


http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/06/16/new.york.gay.marriage.tyree/

Former New York Giants receiver David Tyree's celebrated catch in the closing seconds of Super Bowl XLII was pivotal to his team's victory. Now out of football, he is trying to claim a last-minute win over another foe -- same-sex marriage.

Yeah just like what happened in Massachusetts since they allowed same-sex marriage, complete anarchy

[tpfkaw]

Super Bowl hero warns of 'anarchy' if NY approves gay marriage

Really?  Awesome!

[Smash255]

Super Bowl hero warns of 'anarchy' if NY approves gay marriage


http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/06/16/new.york.gay.marriage.tyree/

Former New York Giants receiver David Tyree's celebrated catch in the closing seconds of Super Bowl XLII was pivotal to his team's victory. Now out of football, he is trying to claim a last-minute win over another foe -- same-sex marriage.

Strahan > Tyree

^^^^^^^^

[7,052,770]

Super Bowl hero warns of 'anarchy' if NY approves gay marriage


http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/06/16/new.york.gay.marriage.tyree/

Former New York Giants receiver David Tyree's celebrated catch in the closing seconds of Super Bowl XLII was pivotal to his team's victory. Now out of football, he is trying to claim a last-minute win over another foe -- same-sex marriage.

Wow, what a dumbass.  Yet another reason to hate the Giants.

[Smash255]

Super Bowl hero warns of 'anarchy' if NY approves gay marriage


http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/06/16/new.york.gay.marriage.tyree/

Former New York Giants receiver David Tyree's celebrated catch in the closing seconds of Super Bowl XLII was pivotal to his team's victory. Now out of football, he is trying to claim a last-minute win over another foe -- same-sex marriage.

Wow, what a dumbass.  Yet another reason to hate the Giants.

Both Strahan and Tisch the owner have come out in support.

[Lunar]

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/17/nyregion/stephen-saland-seen-as-pivotal-in-same-sex-marriage-vote.html

[Paul Kemp]

Super Bowl hero warns of 'anarchy' if NY approves gay marriage


http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/06/16/new.york.gay.marriage.tyree/

Former New York Giants receiver David Tyree's celebrated catch in the closing seconds of Super Bowl XLII was pivotal to his team's victory. Now out of football, he is trying to claim a last-minute win over another foe -- same-sex marriage.

David Tyree is as much of a "hero" as Rodney Harrison for not being able to knock the terrible pass out.

[7,052,770]

Super Bowl hero warns of 'anarchy' if NY approves gay marriage


http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/06/16/new.york.gay.marriage.tyree/

Former New York Giants receiver David Tyree's celebrated catch in the closing seconds of Super Bowl XLII was pivotal to his team's victory. Now out of football, he is trying to claim a last-minute win over another foe -- same-sex marriage.

Wow, what a dumbass.  Yet another reason to hate the Giants.

Both Strahan and Tisch the owner have come out in support.

Good for them.  Really, I'm just taking shots at the Giants because of Eli, the only real reason I hate them.

[Smash255]

Looks like vote will be delayed until next week at the earliest

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