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Gustaf
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« on: June 15, 2011, 12:34:05 PM »

Oh, Phil, love isn't about political agreement. I dated very right-wing girl once, and the reasons she broke up with me were my horrible manners.

Well there is never any excuse for poor manners, Kalwedgy.  A gentlemen always makes a situation better and more pleasant for those around him, never worse.

Don't force your subjective morality on him, you prude.
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Gustaf
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« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2011, 01:38:52 PM »

Oh, Phil, love isn't about political agreement. I dated very right-wing girl once, and the reasons she broke up with me were my horrible manners.

Well there is never any excuse for poor manners, Kalwedgy.  A gentlemen always makes a situation better and more pleasant for those around him, never worse.

Don't force your subjective morality on him, you prude.

I was advising the lad, Gustaf - there's a difference.  His actions made him 'not a gentleman', and alienated the affections of the young lady, so perhaps they were less than optimal strategies.  Anyway tact is not a 'morality' and morality is often tactless as we have seen with our dear departed jmfcst.

Saying that there is never an excuse for poor manners sounds awfully dogmatic to me. Surely, that must be up to him? And if a woman places demands on your behaviour she's being a bit uppity anyway, isn't she? Why accept that when you can rent more docile ones instead, right?
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« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2011, 01:46:44 PM »

Saying that there is never an excuse for poor manners sounds awfully dogmatic to me. Surely, that must be up to him? And if a woman places demands on your behaviour she's being a bit uppity anyway, isn't she? Why accept that when you can rent more docile ones instead, right?

Apples and oranges, Gustaf.  And if you think that prostitutes put up with more than wives or girlfriends do, you don't understand human relationships very well.

I'm sure that if you had one that person would have a lot to put up with. For normal, respectful human beings relationships aren't so bad.

If you think prostitutes generally get treated with more respect than girlfriends I think you're wrong...not everyone is an old-fashioned sexist, after all.
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« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2011, 01:53:03 PM »

Saying that there is never an excuse for poor manners sounds awfully dogmatic to me. Surely, that must be up to him? And if a woman places demands on your behaviour she's being a bit uppity anyway, isn't she? Why accept that when you can rent more docile ones instead, right?

Apples and oranges, Gustaf.  And if you think that prostitutes put up with more than wives or girlfriends do, you don't understand human relationships very well.

I'm sure that if you had one that person would have a lot to put up with. For normal, respectful human beings relationships aren't so bad.

If you think prostitutes generally get treated with more respect than girlfriends I think you're wrong...not everyone is an old-fashioned sexist, after all.

Prostitutes are generally treated like a commodity. It won't work with in dating.

It's all this emancipation nonsense. Thank god there are still places like Thailand where women and poor folk don't get too many ideas.
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« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2011, 04:29:47 AM »

Apples and oranges, Gustaf.  And if you think that prostitutes put up with more than wives or girlfriends do, you don't understand human relationships very well.

I'm sure that if you had one that person would have a lot to put up with. For normal, respectful human beings relationships aren't so bad.

Christ man, you surely know that I have a girlfriend?  And a gik.  And have had many of both over these many years I've been around.  Most of them have been quite happy and pleasant, but there is definitely a lot more to deal with (even to 'put up with') in a years long relationship, particularly if you live together, than in a two hour session where you just smile, maybe have a kiss or two, some groping, and some other activities that are not mentionable here - the prostitute only has to deal with the easiest part: a little bit of sex. 

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No, you're wrong, in fact.  Most prostitutes are treated with roughly the same respect as girlfriends, and anyway 'disrespect' doesn't fully encompass 'things one must put up with' in a relationship.  More often it is just about the tiresomeness, moodiness, or other personal peccadilloes or failings of that person, all of which the girlfriend or boyfriend must put up with over the long haul, whereas the prostitute hardly at all.  It is easy enough to show respect (or a pretense of respect) for a two hour session which hardly involves that much conversation, but very difficult to do over years of ups and downs (in fact nearly impossible to do perfectly).

I can tell you, Gustaf, that in most cases the interaction between prostitute and customer is quite tactful - just like the interaction in any business service.  But, in fact, it is far more likely that a lack of tact or 'disrespect' - even downright cheating, unfairness, or 'poor service' - will be evinced by the service provider than the customer.  The great majority of customers are 'afraid of trouble' when in the setting of prostitution, and so behave quite politely.

If you think business relationships are so respectful and awesome, why are you so opposed to them when it comes to everything that isn't sex?

How do you know about how the great majority of customers behave? Have you done a survey?
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