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« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2011, 02:20:01 pm »

Question for Oakvale for clarification.

The 60 day ban on Dallasfan from holding office, is this federal office only, or for regional office as well?

Before the sentence was rendered, Dallasfan became Lieutenant Governor of the Northeast Region, so if this sentence bans Dallasfan from holding regional office as well, we will have to find another Lieutenant Governor.

Please clarify.

I'm afraid it also covers regional offices. To directly quote from the violated Act, the office-holding ban specifically states-

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Up to a two month ban from holding any office under the Republic of Atlasia.

So, unfortunately, the Northeast will indeed need a new Lieutenant Governor.
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« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2011, 03:50:10 pm »

Looks like Northeast Lt. Governor is a cursed seat.
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« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2011, 11:48:04 am »

was there a determination as to whether Dallasfan might have been called upon to determine the validity of a ballot? It seems like that's an important issue for the interpretation of this law going forward.
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« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2011, 11:58:11 am »

This is ridiculous.
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« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2011, 08:28:05 pm »

was there a determination as to whether Dallasfan might have been called upon to determine the validity of a ballot? It seems like that's an important issue for the interpretation of this law going forward.

Believe me that I wanted to deal with that issue.  However, Dallas plead thus conceeding the issue.  I believe that it is in fact an important issue, but it will not be decided in this case.

This is ridiculous.

How so?  Not meaning to start a fight, just really wondering what you meant.
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« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2011, 02:00:45 am »

that's rather concerning that there was no attempt by the court to determine if a law was actually broken before they handed out the sentence.
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« Reply #31 on: July 19, 2011, 04:14:29 pm »

that's rather concerning that there was no attempt by the court to determine if a law was actually broken before they handed out the sentence.

I understand your concern, but that is not the role of the court here.  There was probable cause, thus Kal was right to bring charges.  I do believe that there are significant questions about whether the law would apply to Dallas. 

However, he chose to plead guilty.  He conceded that he had broken the law and committed a crime.  The Court cannot do anything about that.  The only way to determine if the law was broken was to have a trial.  A trial is every defendant's right, and one which Dallas waived, which is also his right.  Thus, the Court's hands were tied.  I don't like it, but it was his right and he did it freely and voluntarily.  Therefore, if it is to be determined, it is not here.
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« Reply #32 on: July 19, 2011, 08:45:31 pm »

There was no possibility to proceed with the "regular" case, because Dallas first admitted and then pleaded guilty, before either prosecution had an opportunity to present evidences and defense to make their arguments.
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« Reply #33 on: July 19, 2011, 09:01:17 pm »

Dallasfan accepts his responsibility and gets sentenced.  Fine.

But did anyone even bother to investigate the behavior of Tmth, whose actions are, at the very least, suspect?

What kind of justice is this anyway?
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« Reply #34 on: July 19, 2011, 09:05:29 pm »

Dallasfan accepts his responsibility and gets sentenced.  Fine.

But did anyone even bother to investigate the behavior of Tmth, whose actions are, at the very least, suspect?

What kind of justice is this anyway?

He was charged as well, but due to Jake Matthews' banning, prosecution had nothing to proceed with.

Blame the moderators.
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« Reply #35 on: July 19, 2011, 09:07:23 pm »

Dallasfan accepts his responsibility and gets sentenced.  Fine.

But did anyone even bother to investigate the behavior of Tmth, whose actions are, at the very least, suspect?

What kind of justice is this anyway?
An investigation was started, but unfortunately had to be dropped. I would have rather gone through a trial, with hopes that a fair court would find me innocent. Instead, the charges are just dropped, and many are still suspect of my actions.
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« Reply #36 on: July 20, 2011, 06:46:38 pm »

Just let it go, people.  It's over.
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