Minnesota hits government shutdown

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

http://www.kare11.com/news/article/928837/391/What-will-be-open-or-closed

Of course to the Republicans gay marriage was more important than a budget.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

In contrast to the PA pubs and Corbett

[bullmoose88]

In contrast to the PA pubs and Corbett

It'll be interesting to see if PAers are happy with the level of spending commensurate with the amount of revenue collected.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

In contrast to the PA pubs and Corbett

It'll be interesting to see if PAers are happy with the level of spending commensurate with the amount of revenue collected.

Yeah, it's a phenomenon we haven't experienced since Bugsy took over 8 years ago.

[t_host1]

 anybody there - whats going on? for there being no government for nearly 2 weeks - seems like life continues on...

[WillK]

A resolution will probably be reached once the beer runs out...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/13/us-millercoors-idUSTRE76C5UY20110713

 anybody there - whats going on? for there being no government for nearly 2 weeks - seems like life continues on...

[t_host1]

A resolution will probably be reached once the beer runs out...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/13/us-millercoors-idUSTRE76C5UY20110713

 anybody there - whats going on? for there being no government for nearly 2 weeks - seems like life continues on...

ha!..  need more beer  w e l l - opportunity knocks, smoky and the bandit 3?

[BigSkyBob]

http://www.kare11.com/news/article/928837/391/What-will-be-open-or-closed

Of course to the Republicans gay marriage was more important than a budget.

Reality check: the GOP passed a budget.

Dayton vetoed that budget after the legislature adjurned. Dayton has refused to call the legislature into special session to debate another budget bill.

[Ban my account ffs!]

http://www.kare11.com/news/article/928837/391/What-will-be-open-or-closed

Of course to the Republicans gay marriage was more important than a budget.

Reality check: the GOP passed a budget.

Dayton vetoed that budget after the legislature adjurned. Dayton has refused to call the legislature into special session to debate another budget bill.

Sounds familiar.  Oh yeah, like two years ago when Pawlenty vetoed the revenue bill that created a balanced budget after the DFL legislature adjourned and refused to call a special session, instead unconstitutionally single-handedly making the cuts he wanted.

The difference between Pawlenty and Dayton, is that Dayton has been meeting with the GOP leaders to come up with a deal.  The GOP has said they won't raise taxes, and Dayton has said he won't accept a budget that doesn't include tax increases on the richest Minnesotans.

Dayton already slashed his proposed tax increase by more than half.  The GOP hasn't budged. 

And there you have it.  Polls indicate wide support for the governor's plan.  And next year, when the GOP is voted right back out of their feeble majorities... I hope they brought a warm sleeping bag; it's going to be a long trek in the wilderness for them.

[t_host1]

http://www.kare11.com/news/article/928837/391/What-will-be-open-or-closed

Of course to the Republicans gay marriage was more important than a budget.

Reality check: the GOP passed a budget.

Dayton vetoed that budget after the legislature adjurned. Dayton has refused to call the legislature into special session to debate another budget bill.

 So, there is no government commerce - the Governor, its staff, the legislature & there staff and all bureaucrats are receiving no compensation and, the generators of capital - the equity producers - are voluntarily sending cash to a closed government to which, the cash, the equity, is laying in a mail pouch somewhere? Is that about right?


 

[BigSkyBob]

http://www.kare11.com/news/article/928837/391/What-will-be-open-or-closed

Of course to the Republicans gay marriage was more important than a budget.

Reality check: the GOP passed a budget.

Dayton vetoed that budget after the legislature adjurned. Dayton has refused to call the legislature into special session to debate another budget bill.

Sounds familiar.  Oh yeah, like two years ago when Pawlenty vetoed the revenue bill that created a balanced budget after the DFL legislature adjourned and refused to call a special session, instead unconstitutionally single-handedly making the cuts he wanted.

1) Yours is a giant aside. The claim you made was that the attention paid  to man-woman marriage by the legislature prevented the legislature from addressing the budget was simply false.


2) You are offering the child's playground excuses that "Tommy did it first!, and, "Timmy did it worse!"


3) Taking you account at face value, I, suppose, that this creates the precident that Dayton could make the cuts he prefers over the cuts the legislature passed. Opps! Wait! Dayton wanted to raise taxes that requires a vote of the legislature. Never mind.

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Well, Dayton has been 50% right and the GOP legislature has been 100% right.


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And there you have it.  Polls indicate wide support for the governor's plan.  And next year, whenw Dayton's advocacy of doing what is best for Texas, against the Republicans plan to do what is best for Minnesota.

[BigSkyBob]

http://www.kare11.com/news/article/928837/391/What-will-be-open-or-closed

Of course to the Republicans gay marriage was more important than a budget.

Reality check: the GOP passed a budget.

Dayton vetoed that budget after the legislature adjurned. Dayton has refused to call the legislature into special session to debate another budget bill.

 So, there is no government commerce - the Governor, its staff, the legislature & there staff and all bureaucrats are receiving no compensation and, the generators of capital - the equity producers - are voluntarily sending cash to a closed government to which, the cash, the equity, is laying in a mail pouch somewhere? Is that about right?


 

Sounds like a very good reason to call the legislature into special session.

[Landslide Lyndon]

http://www.kare11.com/news/article/928837/391/What-will-be-open-or-closed

Of course to the Republicans gay marriage was more important than a budget.

Reality check: the GOP passed a budget.

Dayton vetoed that budget after the legislature adjurned. Dayton has refused to call the legislature into special session to debate another budget bill.

Sounds familiar.  Oh yeah, like two years ago when Pawlenty vetoed the revenue bill that created a balanced budget after the DFL legislature adjourned and refused to call a special session, instead unconstitutionally single-handedly making the cuts he wanted.

1) Yours is a giant aside. The claim you made was that the attention paid  to man-woman marriage by the legislature prevented the legislature from addressing the budget was simply false.


2) You are offering the child's playground excuses that "Tommy did it first!, and, "Timmy did it worse!"


3) Taking you account at face value, I, suppose, that this creates the precident that Dayton could make the cuts he prefers over the cuts the legislature passed. Opps! Wait! Dayton wanted to raise taxes that requires a vote of the legislature. Never mind.

You must be logged in to read this quote.

Well, Dayton has been 50% right and the GOP legislature has been 100% right.

Can someone please call the dogcatcher?

[memphis]

And the Democrat caves. I'm ever so surprised.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/minnesota-shutdown-ending-mark-dayton-offers-deal/2011/07/14/gIQAOdxJEI_blog.html

[BigSkyBob]

And the Democrat caves. I'm ever so surprised.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/minnesota-shutdown-ending-mark-dayton-offers-deal/2011/07/14/gIQAOdxJEI_blog.html

I love the smell of Democrats capitulating in the morning. It smells like...

Unfortunately, no Democratic capitulation yet. Dayton has dropped the tax increase, but, not his insistence on funding abortion, increasing spending by $500,000,000, and protecting the jobs of bureaucrats. The half-billion dollar personal slush fund is a particularly egregious demand.

The shutdown will continue until the bureaucrats realize that 15% reductions are preferable to losing every nonessential position.

[Landslide Lyndon]

And the Democrat caves. I'm ever so surprised.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/minnesota-shutdown-ending-mark-dayton-offers-deal/2011/07/14/gIQAOdxJEI_blog.html

I love the smell of Democrats capitulating in the morning. It smells like...

Unfortunately, no Democratic capitulation yet. Dayton has dropped the tax increase, but, not his insistence on funding abortion, increasing spending by $500,000,000, and protecting the jobs of bureaucrats. The half-billion dollar personal slush fund is a particularly egregious demand.

The shutdown will continue until the bureaucrats realize that 15% reductions are preferable to losing every nonessential position.

[BigSkyBob]

And the Democrat caves. I'm ever so surprised.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/minnesota-shutdown-ending-mark-dayton-offers-deal/2011/07/14/gIQAOdxJEI_blog.html

I love the smell of Democrats capitulating in the morning. It smells like...

Unfortunately, no Democratic capitulation yet. Dayton has dropped the tax increase, but, not his insistence on funding abortion, increasing spending by $500,000,000, and protecting the jobs of bureaucrats. The half-billion dollar personal slush fund is a particularly egregious demand.

The shutdown will continue until the bureaucrats realize that 15% reductions are preferable to losing every nonessential position.

I see you wish to pursue childish Alinskite tactics of substituting sarcasm for reasoned debate.

I will let the childishness of your actions speak for themselves.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

And the Democrat caves. I'm ever so surprised.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/minnesota-shutdown-ending-mark-dayton-offers-deal/2011/07/14/gIQAOdxJEI_blog.html

At least he saved the state employees jobs, and it's mostly just delays in funding. Which of course doesn't fix the core issue, but as people on the Minnesota Progressive Project have pointed out, this will help bring down the GOP legislature in 2012 and if we retake the legislature we can fix this crap by forcing the rich to pay for it.

[Landslide Lyndon]

And the Democrat caves. I'm ever so surprised.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/minnesota-shutdown-ending-mark-dayton-offers-deal/2011/07/14/gIQAOdxJEI_blog.html

I love the smell of Democrats capitulating in the morning. It smells like...

Unfortunately, no Democratic capitulation yet. Dayton has dropped the tax increase, but, not his insistence on funding abortion, increasing spending by $500,000,000, and protecting the jobs of bureaucrats. The half-billion dollar personal slush fund is a particularly egregious demand.

The shutdown will continue until the bureaucrats realize that 15% reductions are preferable to losing every nonessential position.

I see you wish to pursue childish Alinskite tactics of substituting sarcasm for reasoned debate.

I will let the childishness of your actions speak for themselves.

Frankly, I don't like Alinski. I prefer Chuck Jones.