SENATE BILL: The Protection of Personal Choice Act (Law'd)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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Sponsor: Napoleon

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Protection_of_Public_Health_Act


And I still hate smokers, so I will vote nay on this.

[Antonio the Sixth]

No way. Smoking in public building endangers the health of many people, not to mention their comfort. If there are some people who want to ruin their health, fine, but let them do that at home or in the street.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

I'm glad the other Senators are standing firm in their committment against a terrible and unhealthy practice.

[Napoleon]

What you are calling public buildings are actually private establishments who may want to allow smoking inside, such as a bar.

[Antonio the Sixth]

What you are calling public buildings are actually private establishments who may want to allow smoking inside, such as a bar.

...a bar which may be frequented by non-smokers, who may not want to be poisoned by their addicted fellows.

[Napoleon]

What you are calling public buildings are actually private establishments who may want to allow smoking inside, such as a bar.

...a bar which may be frequented by non-smokers, who may not want to be poisoned by their addicted fellows.

So they can go to another bar, problem solved. The same can apply to small venues and undergroung clubs.

[Antonio the Sixth]

What you are calling public buildings are actually private establishments who may want to allow smoking inside, such as a bar.

...a bar which may be frequented by non-smokers, who may not want to be poisoned by their addicted fellows.

So they can go to another bar, problem solved. The same can apply to small venues and undergroung clubs.

Yeah, let's make a hell of the non-smokers' lifes because they are smart enough not to consume this sh*t.

[Napoleon]

Is smoking marijuana legal outside of private residences in Atlasia?

[Antonio the Sixth]

Is smoking marijuana legal outside of private residences in Atlasia?

What's the point ?

[Napoleon]

Is smoking marijuana legal outside of private residences in Atlasia?

What's the point ?

I would be willing to make a compromise.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I'm a nanny statist when it comes to smoking indoors! It endangers too many others to allow it!

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

It looks like this won't pass - but if it does, it would be my intent to veto it.

It's only fair I tell you now.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

How is the PPHA being enforced? I hope restaraunt owners are not being compelled to act as cops against people smoking in their establishments.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Act as cops meaning? They call the police or they ask the person smoking to leave or stop smoking?

[RIP Robert H Bork]

I oppose reversing the ban on smoking in government buildings, so I shall oppose this bill. (I might oppose this bill even then, but as it stands now, I will vote against it no matter what.)

[Marokai Backbeat]

What you are calling public buildings are actually private establishments who may want to allow smoking inside, such as a bar.

Any business that gets 40% or more of their revenue from the sale of alcohol or smoking related products is exempt from this act. I would think that excludes a fair number of bars. So I fail to see your point.

[Ban my account ffs!]

I won't support this bill, instead I'd propose amending the anti-smoking bill to allow business owners to allow smoking in their business if they have a completely separate room with separate ventilation.  Most bars would already be exempt... but sports bars could also offer a separate smoking room so people don't have to go outside.

[Napoleon]

I won't support this bill, instead I'd propose amending the anti-smoking bill to allow business owners to allow smoking in their business if they have a completely separate room with separate ventilation.  Most bars would already be exempt... but sports bars could also offer a separate smoking room so people don't have to go outside.

Bars aren't exempt, they are able to apply for exemption. That is a tall hurdle, and small venues would, along with a few other places, wouldn't meet the 40% threshold ever.

I could probably accept an amendment for a compromise.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Snowguy, your idea is fine, but I doubt many restaurants will jump through those hoops to allow smoking, which is fine with me, but I'm just saying.

I remember when I was young and my parents would take me to a restaurant with smoking. The other non-smoking area always had a hint of tobacco smell to it, and that always turned me off. I suppose that explains much of why I oppose allowing smoking in restaurants and other public places. Sure, it's a choice of sorts, but if you choose to smoke, you are bothering more people than just yourself. This is coming from a guy who's usually all about personal freedoms, as long as you are not harming anyone else.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Act as cops meaning? They call the police or they ask the person smoking to leave or stop smoking?

well the odd thing about this bill is that it says that certain establishments must not allow smoking, but that the individuals who smoke are the ones punished for a violation. so if someone smokes where they're not supposed to, it is mandatory that they be fined even if they didn't know the establishment wasn't exempt.

[Napoleon]

I have problems with forcing establishments to apply to the government for exempttion no matter what.

[Ban my account ffs!]

Snowguy, your idea is fine, but I doubt many restaurants will jump through those hoops to allow smoking, which is fine with me, but I'm just saying.

I remember when I was young and my parents would take me to a restaurant with smoking. The other non-smoking area always had a hint of tobacco smell to it, and that always turned me off. I suppose that explains much of why I oppose allowing smoking in restaurants and other public places. Sure, it's a choice of sorts, but if you choose to smoke, you are bothering more people than just yourself. This is coming from a guy who's usually all about personal freedoms, as long as you are not harming anyone else.

My county passed a no-smoking ordinance in like 2004 and allowed smoking in bars from 8pm-3am until 2007 when they could only allow smoking in separately ventilated smoking rooms.  Almost every bar built one... only for it to be a waste of money when the state banned smoking in bars/restaurants outright in 2008.

[CatoMinor]

Unless the ban would only cover federal owned property, I fail to see where the Federal Government gets the authority to tell people in privately owned places how to live their lives. If smoking is a problem in those places I don't see why they cannot ban it themselves.

(Not officially in the Senate yet, but just thought I'd give my  two cents) 

[Napoleon]

Snowguy, your idea is fine, but I doubt many restaurants will jump through those hoops to allow smoking, which is fine with me, but I'm just saying.

I remember when I was young and my parents would take me to a restaurant with smoking. The other non-smoking area always had a hint of tobacco smell to it, and that always turned me off. I suppose that explains much of why I oppose allowing smoking in restaurants and other public places. Sure, it's a choice of sorts, but if you choose to smoke, you are bothering more people than just yourself. This is coming from a guy who's usually all about personal freedoms, as long as you are not harming anyone else.

My county passed a no-smoking ordinance in like 2004 and allowed smoking in bars from 8pm-3am until 2007 when they could only allow smoking in separately ventilated smoking rooms.  Almost every bar built one... only for it to be a waste of money when the state banned smoking in bars/restaurants outright in 2008.

This leads me to believe that such a ban could hurt businesses trying to accommodate their customers.