Was neo-conservatism simply re-packaged New Deal Liberalism?
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« on: August 16, 2011, 05:22:01 PM »

I've always seen Liberals--modern, post 60s Liberals--hold a lot of anger toward Neo-Conservatives and the ideology itself. But I don't see a big difference between Neo-Conservatism and pre 1970s Liberalism.

Consider:
"Big Government" Domestically-- Check (See Medicare Part D, for example)
Wilsonian Foreign policies-- Check (see Iraq)
Insistence on "traditional" values-- Check (see Neo-Cons on gay marriage; compare this to the Dixiecrats on matters of race and homosexuality)
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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2011, 05:27:26 PM »

No.

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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2011, 07:04:38 PM »


Also, concern troll is concern troll.
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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2011, 12:17:26 AM »

I've always seen Liberals--modern, post 60s Liberals--hold a lot of anger toward Neo-Conservatives and the ideology itself. But I don't see a big difference between Neo-Conservatism and pre 1970s Liberalism.

Consider:
"Big Government" Domestically-- Check (See Medicare Part D, for example)
Wilsonian Foreign policies-- Check (see Iraq)
Insistence on "traditional" values-- Check (see Neo-Cons on gay marriage; compare this to the Dixiecrats on matters of race and homosexuality)

New Deal Liberals=Neocons=Dixiecrats

did I get that right?
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« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2011, 12:24:29 AM »

Neoconservatism is a result of backlash against liberalism by ex-liberals who are in many ways still fundamentally liberal.
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« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2011, 10:16:01 AM »

Consider:
"Big Government" Domestically-- Check (See Medicare Part D, for example)
Wilsonian Foreign policies-- Check (see Iraq)
Insistence on "traditional" values-- Check (see Neo-Cons on gay marriage; compare this to the Dixiecrats on matters of race and homosexuality)

Only the Wilsonian thing is actually neo-conservative.

For instance, I doubt that neo-cons even have a stance on gay marriage.
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« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2011, 10:17:24 AM »

Consider:
"Big Government" Domestically-- Check (See Medicare Part D, for example)
Wilsonian Foreign policies-- Check (see Iraq)
Insistence on "traditional" values-- Check (see Neo-Cons on gay marriage; compare this to the Dixiecrats on matters of race and homosexuality)

Only the Wilsonian thing is actually neo-conservative.
Not completely either. You think neocons would have any interest in a League of Nations?
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« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2011, 11:07:06 AM »

Consider:
"Big Government" Domestically-- Check (See Medicare Part D, for example)
Wilsonian Foreign policies-- Check (see Iraq)
Insistence on "traditional" values-- Check (see Neo-Cons on gay marriage; compare this to the Dixiecrats on matters of race and homosexuality)

Only the Wilsonian thing is actually neo-conservative.
Not completely either. You think neocons would have any interest in a League of Nations?

Yes.
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« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2011, 11:15:13 AM »

Consider:
"Big Government" Domestically-- Check (See Medicare Part D, for example)
Wilsonian Foreign policies-- Check (see Iraq)
Insistence on "traditional" values-- Check (see Neo-Cons on gay marriage; compare this to the Dixiecrats on matters of race and homosexuality)

Only the Wilsonian thing is actually neo-conservative.
Not completely either. You think neocons would have any interest in a League of Nations?

Yes.

Sweet one example. Nice.
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