Mirror, mirror on the wall, who was the most "childish" of them all?

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Neither party has a ridiculous position here. One wants to raise revenue by $800 Billion over 10 years and the other wants to raise it by $1.2 Trillion. The difference isn't huge enough to abandon a long term plan imo. Of course, regardless of what Torie says, both Obama AND the Republicans are scared of doing anything big, whether that be cutting back on entitlements or raising taxes.

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Also CBO just scored Reid's plan as saving more than twice as much as Boehner's.  Sort of hilarious.

Yes, the CBO scores the phony cuts from winding down the twin wars as cuts. S and P will not for rating purposes. Next!

Good. Ending Bush policies is now phony. Let's end the Bush tax cuts since that would be phony also. Would shrink the debt substantially.

The point is that we are already going to withdraw troops from the Middle East and S&P has already taken that into account. If we try to derive any more "savings" from there, they won't take it seriously. That is unless we change policy and immediately withdraw all our troops, which is not how these "savings" are being gotten.

Rather than offering budgeting gimmicks, the Dems should try their hardest to raise taxes. Be like the GOP and not give a sh**t about default unless taxes are raised, just like the GOP will not cave unless spending cuts are made. That would require having a pair of balls, and the willingness to lose the next election in order to do what is right. Of course the Democrats only care about being elected while the Republicans only care about not being primaried. And that is why we are in the situation we are in.