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Reaganfan
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« on: August 04, 2011, 09:05:30 AM »

The problem for the GOP is that success came during the last 20 years because of Richard Nixon's Government. Richard Nixon had CIA Director George Bush, and Nixon led to Ford who had Chief of Staff Dick Cheney and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld. George Bush became Vice President which led to his Presidency from 1989 to 1993, which included again names like Cheney and had Colin Powell, General of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Then, after eight years of Clinton/Gore, we had the Texas Governor who was the son of George Bush, whose Vice President was Ford's Chief of Staff and Bush 41's Secretary of Defense, then you had his Secretary of Defense the same guy who was Ford's Secretary of Defense, then you had the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs under his father become Secretary of State. Not to mention James Baker, who served under Reagan and Bush 41 helped Bush 43 with the recount in Florida in 2000.

It's all connected, you can trace President George W. Bush in 2009 back to Ronald Reagan selecting George Bush as VP in 1980, easily and quite frankly, you could go back to President Nixon...which essentially leads to Eisenhower who was the first Republican President since Herbert Hoover.

That's probably why it seems so odd to have this primary campaign so open with endless possibilities.
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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2011, 09:16:47 AM »

Hopefully Gordon Liddy will jump in the race.
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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2011, 09:20:29 AM »
« Edited: August 04, 2011, 09:28:38 AM by Captain Not-So-Obvious »

Richard Nixon had CIA Director George Bush,

Bush Sr. was CIA Director under Ford and not under Nixon.

Also, what is this? Six Degrees of George H.W. Bush? Bill Clinton's wife is Obama's Secretary of State. Warren Christopher was Bill Clinton's first Secretary of State. Christopher was Deputy Secretary of State under Jimmy Carter and Deputy Attorney General under Lyndon Johnson. Johnson was vice president under John F. Kennedy.
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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2011, 09:50:48 AM »

Richard Nixon had CIA Director George Bush,

Bush Sr. was CIA Director under Ford and not under Nixon.

Also, what is this? Six Degrees of George H.W. Bush? Bill Clinton's wife is Obama's Secretary of State. Warren Christopher was Bill Clinton's first Secretary of State. Christopher was Deputy Secretary of State under Jimmy Carter and Deputy Attorney General under Lyndon Johnson. Johnson was vice president under John F. Kennedy.
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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2011, 10:13:39 AM »

Classic Reaganfan.
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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2011, 02:05:42 PM »

Said another way, more simply:  The GOP bench was decimated by the W. Bush administration and the 2000-2006 Congresses.

Almost anyone with a clear connection to Bush is political poison and everyone knows it.
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« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2011, 03:36:31 PM »

The only real connection maybe in this race is Bolton. I think Romney has some connections to Nixon, through his father, and, ofcourse, we do have Condi Smiley...
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« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2011, 05:41:37 PM »

George W. Bush became President because George H. W. Bush was VP in 1980? My god, who would've guessed?!
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« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2011, 05:42:35 PM »

The only real connection maybe in this race is Bolton. I think Romney has some connections to Nixon, through his father, and, ofcourse, we do have Condi Smiley...

George Romney, father of Mitt Romney  = HUD Secretary under Richard Nixon, therefore, Mitt Romney's success can be traced back to Richard Nixon.  Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2011, 05:53:39 PM »

George Romney, father of Mitt Romney  = HUD Secretary under Richard Nixon, therefore, Mitt Romney's success can be traced back to Richard Nixon.  Smiley

What success?  Being an unpopular Governor of Massachusetts for one term and then failing to win the GOP nomination?
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« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2011, 08:37:00 PM »

George Romney, father of Mitt Romney  = HUD Secretary under Richard Nixon, therefore, Mitt Romney's success can be traced back to Richard Nixon.  Smiley

What success?  Being an unpopular Governor of Massachusetts for one term and then failing to win the GOP nomination?

You forgot his stellar record at Bain Capital.
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« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2011, 07:17:47 PM »
« Edited: August 07, 2011, 08:47:19 PM by Northeast Governor Winfield »

George Romney, father of Mitt Romney  = HUD Secretary under Richard Nixon, therefore, Mitt Romney's success can be traced back to Richard Nixon.  Smiley

What success?  Being an unpopular Governor of Massachusetts for one term and then failing to win the GOP nomination?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney

"Upon entering office in the middle of a fiscal year, Romney faced an immediate $650 million shortfall and a projected $3 billion deficit for the next year. Unexpected revenue of $1.0–1.3 billion from a previously enacted capital gains tax increase and $500 million in unanticipated federal grants decreased the deficit to $1.2–1.5 billion. Through a combination of spending cuts, increased fees, and removal of corporate tax loopholes, by 2006 the state had a $600–700 million surplus."

Turning a $650 million shortfall into a $600-$700 million surplus in one term as Governor spells S U C C E S S !

Mitt Romney knows how to guide an economy from disaster to prosperity.  He did it for Massachusetts, he'll do it for America.
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« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2011, 11:46:53 AM »

Success (n.)
1.  Being able to take credit for circumstances.  ex.: "Holy sh**, where did this money come from?  Guess I can pay the State's bills after all."
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« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2011, 12:29:01 PM »

The original post was actually really interesting. I knew all of that, but never bothered to link it all together. Nice work!
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« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2011, 10:23:43 PM »
« Edited: August 10, 2011, 10:27:31 PM by ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ »

Richard Nixon had CIA Director George Bush,

Bush Sr. was CIA Director under Ford and not under Nixon.

Also, what is this? Six Degrees of George H.W. Bush? Bill Clinton's wife is Obama's Secretary of State. Warren Christopher was Bill Clinton's first Secretary of State. Christopher was Deputy Secretary of State under Jimmy Carter and Deputy Attorney General under Lyndon Johnson. Johnson was vice president under John F. Kennedy.

Let's play the George HW Bush game.

Herbert Hoover: Bush's grandfather was an economic adviser
FDR: Bush's father got busted trading with Nazi Germany during WWII, but FDR decided it would be bad for morale to lay down the law
Nixon as VP: Bush's father is credited with starting Nixon's political career, and having him chosen as Ike's running mate
Bay of Pigs: One word, Zapata
JFK: For some reason he can't remember where he was when JFK was assassinated. Nixon had that problem too, until someone reminded him that he was in Dallas.
Nixon as VP: When Bush was ambassador to the UN, we almost went to war with India
Ford: Bush claims that he wasn't part of the CIA until appointed head of it by Ford. Does anyone actually believe that?
Reagan: Decided to be Voodoo's running mate
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