Polls on Same-Sex Marriage State Laws

[Joe Republic]

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[Lief 🗽]

We should have let the Confederates secede. And also deported the Mormons. I don't know what we could have done about South Dakota.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

That poll is okay in some places, but I highly doubt that the ID, NE, KS, AZ, IN, MO, TX, ND, and OK numbers are correct.

[IceSpear]

Why would there be such a huge gap between ND/SD and ID/WY?

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Public Religion Research Institute just released a poll of all 50 states:

Very important to note that this is not a 'yes/no' poll, but instead a 'strongly favor/favor/oppose/strongly oppose' poll.

[pbrower2a]

Public Religion Research Institute just released a poll of all 50 states:

http://publicreligion.org/site/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/PRRI-Views-on-Gay-Marriage-by-State.pdf


New Hampshire   75   19
Massachusetts   73   21
Rhode Island   70   19
Connecticut   67   26
Vermont   67   32
New Jersey   66   27
Hawaii   64   31
Maine   63   30
New York   63   28
Oregon   63   30
Washington   63   29
California   61   31
Colorado   60   32
Nevada   60   32
Illinois   59   34
Wisconsin   59   33
Arizona   58   33
Minnesota   58   33
New Mexico   58   36
Delaware   57   31
Iowa   57   37
Maryland   56   37
Pennsylvania   56   37
Michigan   55   37
Alaska   54   35
Nebraska   54   39
Idaho   53   41
Ohio   53   39
Florida   52   40
Kansas   50   43
North Dakota   50   39
Virginia   50   43
Texas   48   43
Indiana   47   45
Missouri   47   44
Montana   47   43
Oklahoma   47   48
Georgia   44   47
North Carolina   44   49
South Dakota   44   48
Utah   43   50
Louisiana   42   48
Wyoming*   41   49
Kentucky   40   54
South Carolina   39   54
Tennessee   39   55
West Virginia   37   55
Arkansas   36   59
Alabama   32   59
Mississippi   32   61

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

@pbrower:  If you're trying to divide that poll into legal ssm/ssm illegal states, note that ND is in the 'illegal' group.

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

Same-sex marriages now taking place in Alabama --  (at least for now the US Supreme Court says so). Judge Roy Moore has a poor track record in getting his way. What is it with Arkansas and Mississippi?

Source?

[pbrower2a]

@pbrower:  If you're trying to divide that poll into legal ssm/ssm illegal states, note that ND is in the 'illegal' group.

Done.

New Hampshire   75   19
Massachusetts   73   21
Rhode Island   70   19
Connecticut   67   26
Vermont   67   32
New Jersey   66   27
Hawaii   64   31
Maine   63   30
New York   63   28
Oregon   63   30
Washington   63   29
California   61   31
Colorado   60   32
Nevada   60   32
Illinois   59   34
Wisconsin   59   33
Arizona   58   33
Minnesota   58   33
New Mexico   58   36
Delaware   57   31
Iowa   57   37
Maryland   56   37
Pennsylvania   56   37
Michigan   55   37
Alaska   54   35
Nebraska   54   39
Idaho   53   41
Ohio   53   39
Florida   52   40
Kansas   50   43
North Dakota   50   39
Virginia   50   43
Texas   48   43
Indiana   47   45
Missouri   47   44
Montana   47   43
Oklahoma   47   48
Georgia   44   47
North Carolina   44   49
South Dakota   44   48
Utah   43   50
Louisiana   42   48
Wyoming*   41   49
Kentucky   40   54
South Carolina   39   54
Tennessee   39   55
West Virginia   37   55
Arkansas   36   59
Alabama   32   59
Mississippi   32   61

[IceSpear]

CNN shows 63-36 support for gay marriage nationwide. Republicans only oppose 55-42 (!).

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2015/images/02/19/rel2f.obama.and.domestic.issues.pdf

[Nhoj]

CNN shows 63-36 support for gay marriage nationwide. Republicans only oppose 55-42 (!).

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2015/images/02/19/rel2f.obama.and.domestic.issues.pdf

Im sure its a somewhat reasonable proxy for approval, but technically the poll is asking about whether people agree its a constitutional right.

[pbrower2a]

TEXAS

It is would be a posthumous and common-law marriage, as well as same-sex. Pointless? No!

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/17/texas-gay-marriage_n_6701426.html?utm_hp_ref=gay-voices&ir=Gay%20Voices

[Thomas D]

THIS DAY IN HISTORY:

On this day 11 years President George W. Bush announced his support for an Amendment to the Constitution of the United States to ban Same Sex Marriage.

So, how's that goin'? 

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

THIS DAY IN HISTORY:

On this day 11 years President George W. Bush announced his support for an Amendment to the Constitution of the United States to ban Same Sex Marriage.

So, how's that goin'? 

The Republicans were too stupid to realize that if they really wanted to pass something like that, they needed to do it in the 1990's. In 2004, SSM probably already had majority approval among democrats (even though it wasn't the litmus test for admission into the party that it is today (outside of the south)), and some republicans were beginning to accept state's rights on the issue.

[pbrower2a]

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/02/nebraska-gay-marriage_n_6783464.html?utm_hp_ref=gay-voices&ir=Gay%20Voices

There will be an appeal by the Attorney General of Nebraska. He is confident that the Eighth Circuit will uphold the appeal. In view of the record of such appeals, he must be an extreme optimist about the federal courts upholding such an appeal.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/02/nebraska-gay-marriage_n_6783464.html?utm_hp_ref=gay-voices&ir=Gay%20Voices

There will be an appeal by the Attorney General of Nebraska. He is confident that the Eighth Circuit will uphold the appeal. In view of the record of such appeals, he must be an extreme optimist about the federal courts upholding such an appeal.

The 8th circuit has previously approved NE's same sex marriage ban, but that was back in 2006. The circuit will probably stay the decision, just as they have done for Missouri (where same sex marriage is only legal in 3 counties as of now) and Arkansas. However, if they get a chance to actually rule on the case between now and June, no guarantee they won't break their own precedent given the recent record of other courts.

[pbrower2a]

Status of lawful same-sex marriage when the 8th Circuit Court approved Nebraska's ban in 2006:

White -- same-sex marriage permitted by law

Things have changed, have they not?

[The Other Castro]

Just wondering since I'm unclear about this, but is the official case name at the Supreme Court going to be the same as its original name (DeBoer v. Snyder)? Or is it going to be like U.S. v. DeBoer, Michigan v. DeBoer, or something else entirely? With this most likely being the case that nationally legalizes same sex marriage, the name is probably going to be important.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Just wondering since I'm unclear about this, but is the official case name at the Supreme Court going to be the same as its original name (DeBoer v. Snyder)? Or is it going to be like U.S. v. DeBoer, Michigan v. DeBoer, or something else entirely? With this most likely being the case that nationally legalizes same sex marriage, the name is probably going to be important.

Because the 6th circuit ruled in Snyder's favor, the names will likely switch around to be Snyder vs. DeBoer.

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

THIS DAY IN HISTORY:

On this day 11 years President George W. Bush announced his support for an Amendment to the Constitution of the United States to ban Same Sex Marriage.

So, how's that goin'? 

More likely than not Bush supports SSM today.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

THIS DAY IN HISTORY:

On this day 11 years President George W. Bush announced his support for an Amendment to the Constitution of the United States to ban Same Sex Marriage.

So, how's that goin'? 

More likely than not Bush supports SSM today.

What's the evidence for that? Besides his father's possible endorsement of it (H.W. has served as witness to 1 gay wedding, but, to the public's knowledge, has never outright said "I support Same Sex Marriage".), I honestly don't know of anything. I could see W. Bush endorsing state's rights on the issue nowadays, seeing as even Ted Cruz supports that, but W. Bush actually supporting federal legislation allowing SSM? That'd really surprise me.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

THIS DAY IN HISTORY:

On this day 11 years President George W. Bush announced his support for an Amendment to the Constitution of the United States to ban Same Sex Marriage.

So, how's that goin'? 

More likely than not Bush supports SSM today.

What's the evidence for that? Besides his father's possible endorsement of it (H.W. has served as witness to 1 gay wedding, but, to the public's knowledge, has never outright said "I support Same Sex Marriage".), I honestly don't know of anything. I could see W. Bush endorsing state's rights on the issue nowadays, seeing as even Ted Cruz supports that, but W. Bush actually supporting federal legislation allowing SSM? That'd really surprise me.

You're right, he'll probably take the chicken's way out.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

IIRC, someone said on here, when they were discussing the radical transformation of Bush from the 2000 campaign to the post-9/11 world and the 2004 election, that the 2000 Bush campaign or the Republican Party platform was okay with civil unions at the state level if passed by referendum, or something like that.

Does anyone know if that was true?

Look it up: Historical political party platforms, 1840-2008

[pbrower2a]

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/05/scotus-gay-marriage-date_n_6809100.html?utm_hp_ref=gay-voices&ir=Gay%20Voices

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

THIS DAY IN HISTORY:

On this day 11 years President George W. Bush announced his support for an Amendment to the Constitution of the United States to ban Same Sex Marriage.

So, how's that goin'? 

More likely than not Bush supports SSM today.

What's the evidence for that? Besides his father's possible endorsement of it (H.W. has served as witness to 1 gay wedding, but, to the public's knowledge, has never outright said "I support Same Sex Marriage".), I honestly don't know of anything. I could see W. Bush endorsing state's rights on the issue nowadays, seeing as even Ted Cruz supports that, but W. Bush actually supporting federal legislation allowing SSM? That'd really surprise me.

Bush said he supported Civil Unions after his presidency. (Of course, nobody supports Civil Unions anymore). His dad(as you mentioned), wife, and daughters, and former VP all support SSM. It's been 11 years since he said that, and now SSM is legal in almost 40 states. Bush refuses to express his opinion, but with all of those factors, it's safe to say that, more likely than not, he supports it, and if so, not openly.