Polls on Same-Sex Marriage State Laws

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

Minnesota is now very, very unlikely to approve SSM in November, says a new SurveyUSA poll:

52% for the man/woman marriage amendment
37% against
  5% won't vote
  6% not sure

GOP: 75-12 support
DEM: 54-38 oppose
IND: 48-42 support

http://kstp.com/news/stories/S2698095.shtml?cat=1

Washington is a different story though, also by SurveyUSA:

"A new law passed by the legislature would allow same-sex couples to marry in Washington state. Should this law be approved? Or rejected?"

50% Approve
43% Rejected

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=2786ebbd-3348-4795-b0a8-0ee124a9707d

Ha. That debunks PPP's gutter trash poll from about a month ago.

Why do you care?

Mr. Nathan, sir, there is something to be said about the merit of discrediting pollsters that have an obvious dubious agenda and that do not seek to represent the people.

I mean about this issue, not about PPP. For that matter, why are 'the people' terribly relevant to you on those issues and seemingly only on those issues in which the most superficially populist argument is one that happens to support the right-wing position?

These are, you'll understand, rhetorical questions. I, at least, know exactly why you care, and exactly why you think 'the people' have a moral leg to stand on here.

[Sbane]

Who knew there were so many DINOs in MN?

Can't blame it non-whites here either. It's a matter of class really, which in a state like California makes it seem like its the Blacks and Hispanics opposed to gay marriage.

[morgieb]

Who knew there were so many DINOs in MN?

Isn't the Mid-West rather culturally conservative?

[greenforest32]

July 2012 Wisconsin poll:

Do you think same-sex marriage should be legal or illegal?

Legal ............................................................... 43%
Illegal .............................................................. 47%
Not sure .......................................................... 10%

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_WI_072012.pdf

WI PPP results from August 2011: 39% legal, 50% illegal, 11% not sure
WI PPP results from May 2011: 42% legal, 46% illegal, 12% not sure

[krazen1211]

Minnesota is now very, very unlikely to approve SSM in November, says a new SurveyUSA poll:

52% for the man/woman marriage amendment
37% against
  5% won't vote
  6% not sure

GOP: 75-12 support
DEM: 54-38 oppose
IND: 48-42 support

http://kstp.com/news/stories/S2698095.shtml?cat=1

Washington is a different story though, also by SurveyUSA:

"A new law passed by the legislature would allow same-sex couples to marry in Washington state. Should this law be approved? Or rejected?"

50% Approve
43% Rejected

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=2786ebbd-3348-4795-b0a8-0ee124a9707d

Ha. That debunks PPP's gutter trash poll from about a month ago.

Why do you care?

Mr. Nathan, sir, there is something to be said about the merit of discrediting pollsters that have an obvious dubious agenda and that do not seek to represent the people.

I mean about this issue, not about PPP. For that matter, why are 'the people' terribly relevant to you on those issues and seemingly only on those issues in which the most superficially populist argument is one that happens to support the right-wing position?

These are, you'll understand, rhetorical questions. I, at least, know exactly why you care, and exactly why you think 'the people' have a moral leg to stand on here.

These are the issues that have put to a direct vote of the people. 30 some thing times, in fact, with an extraordinary amount of success.

And on this particular issue, the special interest groups that has lost 30 times frequently react in a unprofessional manner. Unlike most issues which go to a vote of the people, these special interests do not seem to show the proper respect!


What I find to be funny, though, is on issues that Nathan might claim majority support, such as increasing taxes, the people have not shown much support for such taxes at the ballot box in states such as Washington and California.

[krazen1211]

July 2012 Wisconsin poll:

Do you think same-sex marriage should be legal or illegal?

Legal ............................................................... 43%
Illegal .............................................................. 47%
Not sure .......................................................... 10%

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_WI_072012.pdf

We already know that Wisconsin has voted 59% against this policy. PPP is cooking the books!

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

See, krazen, I totally get everything that you're saying, it's just that it's a cocktail of barely-relevant bullsh**t, astonishing leaps of logic, and mean-spirited spin none of which actually answers my question.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

July 2012 Wisconsin poll:

Do you think same-sex marriage should be legal or illegal?

Legal ............................................................... 43%
Illegal .............................................................. 47%
Not sure .......................................................... 10%

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_WI_072012.pdf

We already know that Wisconsin has voted 59% against this policy. PPP is cooking the books!

We also know that Wisconsin voted 56% for Barack Obama, so I guess there's no need to hold a second election there. Look at all the money we can save taxpayers by assuming public opinion is set in stone and never changes!

[krazen1211]

July 2012 Wisconsin poll:

Do you think same-sex marriage should be legal or illegal?

Legal ............................................................... 43%
Illegal .............................................................. 47%
Not sure .......................................................... 10%

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_WI_072012.pdf

We already know that Wisconsin has voted 59% against this policy. PPP is cooking the books!

We also know that Wisconsin voted 56% for Barack Obama, so I guess there's no need to hold a second election there. Look at all the money we can save taxpayers by assuming public opinion is set in stone and never changes!

That would be a valid point if Barack Obama's opponent in 2012 was John McCain.

[danny]

July 2012 Wisconsin poll:

Do you think same-sex marriage should be legal or illegal?

Legal ............................................................... 43%
Illegal .............................................................. 47%
Not sure .......................................................... 10%

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_WI_072012.pdf

We already know that Wisconsin has voted 59% against this policy. PPP is cooking the books!

We also know that Wisconsin voted 56% for Barack Obama, so I guess there's no need to hold a second election there. Look at all the money we can save taxpayers by assuming public opinion is set in stone and never changes!

That would be a valid point if Barack Obama's opponent in 2012 was John McCain.

That would be a terrible point, and following it would have meant that Grover Cleveland would have automatically lost the 1892 election.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

July 2012 Wisconsin poll:

Do you think same-sex marriage should be legal or illegal?

Legal ............................................................... 43%
Illegal .............................................................. 47%
Not sure .......................................................... 10%

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_WI_072012.pdf

We already know that Wisconsin has voted 59% against this policy. PPP is cooking the books!

We also know that Wisconsin voted 56% for Barack Obama, so I guess there's no need to hold a second election there. Look at all the money we can save taxpayers by assuming public opinion is set in stone and never changes!

That would be a valid point if Barack Obama's opponent in 2012 was John McCain.

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No.  No, it wouldn't be.  Where are you getting this?  Mr. Moderate was clearly being sarcastic.

[greenforest32]

July 2012 Connecticut poll:

Do you think same-sex marriage should be legal or illegal?

Legal ............................................................... 55%
Illegal .............................................................. 33%
Not sure .......................................................... 12%

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_CT_080212.pdf

CT PPP results from September 2011: 55% legal, 32% illegal, 13% not sure

July 2012 poll on the Maryland referendum:

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/02/maryland-marriage-equality_n_1732555.html

[greenforest32]

August 2012 Nevada poll:

Do you think same-sex marriage should be legal or illegal?

Legal ............................................................... 47%
Illegal .............................................................. 42%
Not sure .......................................................... 11%

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_NV_082812.pdf

NV PPP results from July 2011: 45% legal, 44% illegal, 11% not sure

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Meanwhile the Rhode Island Senate President continues to be a moderate hero: http://www.boston.com/news/local/rhode-island/2012/08/29/senate-president-mum-gay-marriage/dyZ2ozauXRqSAMInd5M6aJ/story.html

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[Marokai Backbeat]

Always a Senate's fault, isn't it?

[morgieb]

Why is it so hard to pass legislation in Rhode Island of all places?

Good news in Maryland, though I feel there's a Bradley effect in same-sex polling.

[Holmes]

Always a Senate's fault, isn't it?

Not in Vermont, where it was very much the opposite,  New Hampshire (though it did seem like it was going to die after it was voted down in committee), Maine or California. And it's because of the Iowa State Senate that a constitutional amendment has never went to the polls.

[Brittain33]

Ditto in Massachusetts, where the senate leadership was the main pro-gay force in the constitutional conventions and the main conservative forces were Tom Finneran, the House Republican caucus, and various conservative Dems.

[Ted & Annette Fleming]

I know I’ll probably be labeled unChristian for quoting this person, but here goes:

"I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled!"

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

I know I’ll probably be labeled unChristian for quoting this person, but here goes:

"I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled!"

Oh, that quote in and of itself is plenty Christian (obviously), it's just completely inappropriate and frankly a little nonsensical in this context.

[Ted & Annette Fleming]

I know I’ll probably be labeled unChristian for quoting this person, but here goes:

"I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled!"

Oh, that quote in and of itself is plenty Christian (obviously), it's just completely inappropriate and frankly a little nonsensical in this context.

Yeah, right...Tell that to the twin cities (mentioned numerous times by whom we've been referring) that once stood near Zoar on the plain.  But, referring to such a story is no doubt also ignorant and unChristian of me.  Might, was well color me a throwback and be done with it...and just for grins: drag my mother through the mud, slap my kids, and kick my dog while you're at it.

[danny]

I know I’ll probably be labeled unChristian for quoting this person, but here goes:

"I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled!"

Oh, that quote in and of itself is plenty Christian (obviously), it's just completely inappropriate and frankly a little nonsensical in this context.

Yeah, right...Tell that to the twin cities (mentioned numerous times by whom we've been referring) that once stood near Zoar on the plain.  But, referring to such a story is no doubt also ignorant and unChristian of me.  Might, was well color me a throwback and be done with it...and just for grins: drag my mother through the mud, slap my kids, and kick my dog while you're at it.

[Linus Van Pelt]

A poster with a reference to an 80's movie as a username rocking Old Testament quotes in opposition to gay marriage? We've never seen that before.

[Ted & Annette Fleming]

A poster with a reference to an 80's movie as a username rocking Old Testament quotes in opposition to gay marriage? We've never seen that before.

don't forget about the lyrics in the sig from a 70's hit....but, in any case, the following quote is from the New Testament, you twit. 

"I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled!"

[Linus Van Pelt]

I had Zoar in mind, having looked only at the post a couple up. I guess "quote" wasn't strictly accurate there.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

I know I’ll probably be labeled unChristian for quoting this person, but here goes:

"I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled!"

Oh, that quote in and of itself is plenty Christian (obviously), it's just completely inappropriate and frankly a little nonsensical in this context.

Yeah, right...Tell that to the twin cities (mentioned numerous times by whom we've been referring) that once stood near Zoar on the plain.  But, referring to such a story is no doubt also ignorant and unChristian of me.  Might, was well color me a throwback and be done with it...and just for grins: drag my mother through the mud, slap my kids, and kick my dog while you're at it.

Not hugely familiar with Isaiah, are we?

I was at church less than nine hours ago, receiving communion like a good Christian. Give it a rest.