Polls on Same-Sex Marriage State Laws

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

I'm calling it:

There will be a court ruling out in favor of gay marriage no later than 2025.

Once stuff like this gains momentum it seldom takes more than 20 years.

The way gay marriage has been making gains, I'd be surprised if it took more than 10.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Gay marriage is an uncomfortable issue for Phil. Should it be made legal in either his state or Ohio, he will certainly feel societal pressure to get married to his one true love, Naso.

As the law currently stands, he can enjoy some level of safety in knowing that their relationship cannot progress beyond the simple "bromance" stage. It is that safety which he cherishes, and it is that safety that drives his opinion.

Be brave, Phil. You do not need the safety. Embrace your feelings!

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

New Pennsylvania numbers:

Asked of any woman on the street: Do you enjoy anal intercourse?

Yes .......................................................... 2%
No ........................................................... 5%
Get the hell away from me, you creep .... 93%

Adding this to the map we can see that there is still a clear national trend toward "get the hell away from me, you creep." Bad news for President Obama.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

EDIT: I just noticed the new thread started by milhouse. Thank you! That should end further off topic discourse in this thread for the short term at least.

I just split the two threads. Keep this one about same-sex marriage polling and state laws; the other one can be used to continue the discussion about the merits of whether gay marriage is equal, lesser, or a sham. Thanks.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Yeah, i realized that when I opened that thread afterwards. Thanks, partner!

Why wasn't I surpised Milhouse didn't do something so rational? But I digress.....

dude's usin' an awful lot of thinkpower to keep up his smart gay-marriage-is-tax-fraud argument, and as a result, a lot of his other faculties are diminished. we don't want him spreading himself too thin -- he needs to put his thinkin' where his thinkin' can get its best use: on Internet.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Could pass in NJ though, but even there I'm not sure.

The problem in New Jersey is that even though support may finally be there in the State Senate -- there are a few Republicans now signed on to support marriage equality -- it still needs to get past Christie's desk. And Christie is a "no" on gay marriage. Maybe.

The Star Ledger suggested a better road may be to just take it to the voters via constitutional amendment since it's clear a majority of the state supports it. The idea really intrigues me, since it's the usual weapon of the "homosexual marriage haters."

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

NJ now strongly in favor:

52-34

http://www.monmouth.edu/assets/0/84/159/2147483694/37459b64-548b-4dd0-8ccf-7985264ef9d5.pdf

Congratulations, Phil!

Phil and Naso will be very happy together.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

I'm surprised there's nothing out of Illinois yet.  Dem-controlled legislature, Dem governor who has already endorsed it... it'd be nice to see if the people would okay it too.

My understanding is that there's a not-so-insignificant portion of conservative democrats from southern Illinois currently serving. With Dems maximizing their gains around the Chicago suburbs via redistricting, 2013 may be better timing.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

July 2012 Wisconsin poll:

Do you think same-sex marriage should be legal or illegal?

Legal ............................................................... 43%
Illegal .............................................................. 47%
Not sure .......................................................... 10%

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_WI_072012.pdf

We already know that Wisconsin has voted 59% against this policy. PPP is cooking the books!

We also know that Wisconsin voted 56% for Barack Obama, so I guess there's no need to hold a second election there. Look at all the money we can save taxpayers by assuming public opinion is set in stone and never changes!

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Someone save his quotes.

I beg your pardon? I've had one of my posts deleted by a particularly Stalinist moderator today, but I have high hopes that most moderators are more open to a diverse ideological presence on this forum. I will not be banned for being a passionate Christian Conservative.

There are a number of gay posters on this board who are very emotionally involved with the results of these propositions. You certainly don't have to be supportive, but we do ask you be civil and respectful of others.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Of course, in the south, "white person" is almost synonymous with "Republican." So it's no surprise that when "black person" is then synonymous with "Democrat," the black folk turn out to be slightly more supportive of gay rights than hardcore white religious conservatives.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

NJ (Quinnipiac):

Would you support or oppose a law that would allow same-sex couples to get married?

64-30 support

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institutes-centers/polling-institute/new-jersey/release-detail?ReleaseID=1872

Did I not say but a few months ago we would be one of the best on this issue?  

Oh... and the South still blows the big one on gay marriage.  Who would've thought?  

Major point from the poll: Even Republicans in New Jersey support SSM, 47% to 46%.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Christie is the person who suggested that referendum.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

What poll says Kansas has more gay marriage support than Colorado and Illinois?

The poll on the previous page.

It's not a poll on gay marriage, though.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

AR was 18-75 in Oct. 2012

http://plsc.uark.edu/partners/arkpoll/12/2012_Arkansas_Poll_Summary_Report.pdf

Arkansas Citizens File To Put Marriage Equality On The 2014 Ballot.  It won't pass, of course, but it's a good gesture.

...how can they look at those numbers and think that a 2014 initiative is a good idea?

When you live in a state like Arkansas, the only option you have is to try and try again. There will be no help from the legislature, governor or top court, so you have to be the one to help yourself.

Having the debate will help move the numbers toward the right side. It certainly can't make things worse there, can it?

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Careful, Virginia -- if you keep this up, they won't let you into the "New Confederacy."

http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/state-regional/government-politics/of-virginians-surveyed-back-same-sex-marriage/article_e727d6da-ef98-11e2-9db5-0019bb30f31a.html

50% Support SSM
43% Opposed to SSM

via Quinnipiac

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Iowa already has SSM, but they support it there 47% to 44%.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2013/07/iowans-divided-but-power-unlikely-to-change-hands.html#more

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Only on Atlas could someone see a nine-color U.S. map and an eleven-color U.S. map and then suggest, "hey guys, I have an idea: let's add more colors."

I await the day when we reach peak Atlas: a U.S. map with a 51-color key.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

PPP's latest poll on Pennsylvania shows 48% support gay marriage; 44% oppose. Meanwhile, 56% of Pennsylvanians agree with Corbett's decision to not appeal the court's decision.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2014/06/wolf-leads-corbett-by-25-pa-supports-gay-marriage.html

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

I genuinely appreciate the work you do on these maps, but they're completely unintelligible. But I do know what 'saturation' means.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Pbrower's maps make way more sense if you're messed up on cat drugs.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Pbrower's maps make way more sense if you read the rest of the post.

Fixed.

What cat drugs are you on? Did you get them directly from Pbrower? Or do you know a shady vet?

Please answer my questions in map form using as many colors as humanly possible.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

I know why you don't include data on states with SSM, but I think it would make the map more interesting to start including it. Just my opinion.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Half of the remaining states are southern. I wonder if any of them will have it before a massive national ruling.

Absolutely.

Through small, regional rulings.  South Carolina will likely be fully onboard pretty soon, for example.

Define soon.  It's now looking doubtful the issue will be decided before December.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=200062.msg4337488#msg4337488

I've been waiting almost two decades for marriage equality. On that time scale, December is most definitely "soon." Especially considering the state we're talking about here.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Public Religion Research Institute just released a poll of all 50 states:

Very important to note that this is not a 'yes/no' poll, but instead a 'strongly favor/favor/oppose/strongly oppose' poll.