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Question: What was your favorite conflict in the Ames debate?
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Bachmann vs. Pawlenty
 
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Paul vs. Santorum
 
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Gingrich vs. Wallace
 
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« on: August 12, 2011, 04:20:33 AM »

Very tough for me to say.
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« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2011, 07:24:26 AM »

My hatred of Santorum combined with actually agreeing with most of what Paul said made the latter's pwnage my favorite.
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« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2011, 09:27:44 AM »

Santorum vs. the crazy homeless guy shouting at passers-by though it has meant dealing with the wrath of the Paul fanatics.
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« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2011, 09:31:11 AM »
« Edited: August 12, 2011, 10:06:51 AM by Torie »

I thought the contretemps over Iran was quite interesting, entertaining and heated. Newt lashing into Wallace was painful, but well, good theater. The Pawlenty interchange with Bachmann just made me wish somebody suggest to T-Paw that he has a migraine, and should  excuse himself for his own well being and health.
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« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2011, 10:02:13 AM »

Santorum made my father go from undecided to Paul supporter. Thank you, Santorum. I never realized that you were a fake neocon candidate meant only to make the most stereotypical of neocon arguments. Brilliant dude.
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« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2011, 10:10:29 AM »

The lie Bachmann stated towards Pawlenty (era of small government) really turned me off for her, and I just didn't get too excited when those two were bickering. I haven't seen Gingrich-Wallace yet, so for now, Paul vs. Santorum. On foreign policy, I'm pretty even between their two beliefs, but Paul was making Santorum look foolish out there, and Santorum was knocked down a couple places in my book.
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« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2011, 10:32:37 AM »

All Republicans -- with objective reality!
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« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2011, 10:54:35 AM »

All Republicans -- with objective reality!

Obama is taking Texas, right?
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« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2011, 10:55:15 AM »

Santorum vs Paul. Santorum was owned every time.
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« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2011, 10:59:01 AM »

Bachmann v. Pawlenty.

She made T-Paw look so stupid!
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« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2011, 11:03:56 AM »

The lie Bachmann stated towards Pawlenty (era of small government) really turned me off for her, and I just didn't get too excited when those two were bickering. I haven't seen Gingrich-Wallace yet, so for now, Paul vs. Santorum. On foreign policy, I'm pretty even between their two beliefs, but Paul was making Santorum look foolish out there, and Santorum was knocked down a couple places in my book.

What lie?
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« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2011, 11:12:41 AM »

Write-in: Santorum versus the moderators.

Santorum was getting, like, no time and he was quick to bring it out.  The media really does pick winners and losers.  I thought that Santorum made a good point, without getting overly emotional.  After watching last night, I believe that Santorum responses were well-poised and well thought out.

As for the Santorum v. Paul debacle, I really don't know why Santorum chose to engage in discourse with Paul.  Paul already has no credibility and no chance at the nomination.     
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« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2011, 01:20:31 PM »

Bachmann and Pawlenty was at least, to some degree, wearing on both of them. Bachmann got the better of it, but those jabs about her failure to actually succeed at anything certainly left a mark, and her victory wasn't THAT overwhelming.

Paul vs Santorum, meanwhile, was basically a rout. Santorum threw out a wild accusation that Paul has addressed hundreds of times before, which Paul shot out of the sky, then he threw another attack at Paul to which he was easily beaten again but then attacked himself (accused of backing the Iraq war, which isn't going to make you many fans), then he threw a snide jab at Paul when he figured he could get away with it if it was vague.

Its like the difference between two very different fights. The first is long, lasts several rounds, and goes to the already stronger fighter by TKO, but narrowly. The second is a series of the first guy charging the second wildly, getting punched in the face and knocked to the ground, then standing up and trying it again before being KO'd.
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Ha ha ha! Thats rich.

Mr.Santorum (polling 1-5%, going nowhere) really shouldn't degrade himself to debating with Mr.Paul (polling 14% and rising) since Mr.Paul has no chance.

I suppose Karger shouldn't have to degrade himself to debate with Bachmann, either?
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« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2011, 02:36:47 PM »

The lie Bachmann stated towards Pawlenty (era of small government) really turned me off for her, and I just didn't get too excited when those two were bickering. I haven't seen Gingrich-Wallace yet, so for now, Paul vs. Santorum. On foreign policy, I'm pretty even between their two beliefs, but Paul was making Santorum look foolish out there, and Santorum was knocked down a couple places in my book.

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http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-republican-debate-strains-facts-030442355.html

THE FACTS: Pawlenty did not declare the era of small government over. (Neither has Obama.) Bachmann's jab was drawn from a Minnesota newspaper interview in which Pawlenty referred to a New York Times column on the subject, as part of his argument that "there are certain circumstances where you've got to have government put up the guardrails or bust up entrenched interests before they become too powerful." At the time, Pawlenty's office pushed for and received a clarification from the newspaper that he was relaying another writer's thoughts.
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« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2011, 02:37:14 PM »

Paul-Santorum.  It was an actual policy debate between two very different  viewpoints.  The fact that Santorum was out of his league didn't make the substance of the debate any less interesting.  Hopefully there's more discussions of foreign policy in the months to come.

Bachmann-Pawlenty just came off as a petty, media created feud over nothing of importance.  Both candidates came out looking worse after this debate, although Pawlenty probably came out on the lower end.  And while I enjoyed Gingrich's remarks, and though he had a decent debate, there are a lot more pressing issues than criticizing the media.
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« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2011, 03:45:51 PM »

Paul Santorum.

I'd say Gingrich Wallace but that was a one way landslide so it wasn't as fun
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« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2011, 04:49:05 PM »

Santorum vs. the crazy homeless guy shouting at passers-by though it has meant dealing with the wrath of the Paul fanatics.

Santorum defends his bigoted views on gay marriage with the "All men are created equal" line in the Declaration of Independence, and you think Paul was the crazy one? Roll Eyes

The Santorum-Paul fight cemented even further the fact that Santorum is not going anywhere near the White House.
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« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2011, 04:52:11 PM »

Santorum vs. the crazy homeless guy shouting at passers-by though it has meant dealing with the wrath of the Paul fanatics.

Santorum defends his bigoted views on gay marriage with the "All men are created equal" line in the Declaration of Independence, and you think Paul was the crazy one? Roll Eyes

The Santorum-Paul fight cemented even further the fact that Santorum is not going anywhere near the White House.

In his defense, Santorum often couldn't finish his fights with Paul. I'd like to see them both get equal time and enough to actually fully express their opinions
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« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2011, 07:24:51 PM »


The Santorum-Paul fight cemented even further the fact that Santorum is not going anywhere near the White House.

Meanwhile, Ron Paul is already measuring drapes for the Oval Office.
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