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« on: August 13, 2011, 08:09:07 PM »
« edited: August 31, 2011, 01:40:27 PM by Senator North Carolina Yankee »

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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2011, 07:50:13 PM »

You mean that buggy constitution we keep having to fix via amendments? Wink

I distinctly remember you being in the convention voting to move it along at every step, Mr. Quality Control..

Besides; Purple State was a landmark member from the Mideast in reviving the interest in regional legislatures, he was the person that made the position of Game Moderator important and meaningful and is still the standard we hold all GMs to, and he was voted 2009 Atlasian of the Year.

To not include him on currency would be criminal.

I offer the following amendment:

11)  The two-dollar bill shall feature a photo of President PurpleState


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I think this is fair since $2 bills are fairly rare, and people tend to hold onto them and cherish them when they do find one.  Tongue

It also means we don't have to kick anybody else off of the other money.

Is the lack of space between the color and the political entity intentional or accidental? Wink
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2011, 05:54:50 PM »

GET THE FIRE HOSE!!!!!!

or even better,

An undead James Arness


Ah damn it, I forgot the Gunsmoke quote I wanted to use. Sad

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« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2011, 06:26:01 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2011, 06:42:35 PM »

Also would like to consider abolishing penny as suggested by Senator Jbrase, as it seems relevant here.

Is this suppose to be an amendment as well? Lack of the words "I seek to amend" like in the first one and in it's place "would like to consider" removes clear intent and would be interpreted by me as to mean it is not an amendment at this time. However, as per recent policy change as a result of the Comprehensive... Act, clarification is needed.
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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2011, 06:48:09 PM »
« Edited: August 15, 2011, 07:18:22 PM by Senator North Carolina Yankee »

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An amendment suggested to me by another. It is in line with Snowguy's desire to preserve the current people on the list, in case there is some objection to his allocations to each person, this is basically inverse of his.
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« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2011, 06:17:40 PM »
« Edited: August 18, 2011, 08:31:11 PM by Senator North Carolina Yankee »

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« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2011, 05:15:58 PM »

WARNING!!!

SYSTEM WILL TRIGGER SELF-DESTRUCT MODE IN SIX HOURS, IF PROPER DATA IS STILL MISSING!!!!
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« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2011, 12:17:06 PM »

WTF, did you go fishing in Puget Sound, Bgwah? Tongue


We need feedback on these amendments.
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« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2011, 12:40:39 PM »

Antonio doesn't presently have an amendment entered on this bill.

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« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2011, 05:58:15 PM »

As I said, my amendment is the inverse of Snowguy's, so I'll withdraw it based on what happens with his.


"Snowman, you got your ears on?"


lol, Smokey and the Bandit. Now that was a good movie.
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« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2011, 10:06:25 PM »

I have decided to pursue a vote on 44:29.

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« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2011, 10:09:45 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2011, 01:10:50 PM »

Current Status:

Aye (5): AHDuke99, Antonio V, Jbrase, NC Yankee, and Snowguy716
Nay (2): bgwah and Napoleon
Abstain (2): Fuzzybigfoot and shua

Didn't Vote (1): Officepark.

One more aye and this can pass at any time.
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« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2011, 07:15:08 PM »

Vote on Passage of Amendment 44:29:

Aye (6): AHDuke99, Antonio V, Jbrase, NC Yankee, officepark, and Snowguy716
Nay (2): bgwah and Napoleon
Abstain (2): Fuzzybigfoot and shua

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« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2011, 08:53:38 PM »
« Edited: August 23, 2011, 09:15:35 PM by Senator North Carolina Yankee »

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« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2011, 09:09:41 PM »

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And you people were bitching at me for not slowing down? Tongue
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« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2011, 09:14:36 PM »

Oh, you're right... I looked at the first post and saw it was recently edited, so I figured that was the updated version. Yankee must have just changed the title. My bad. Tongue

I don't really care about the two dollar bill either way. If one doesn't like tmth, then at least he's on the bill nobody ever sees or uses... Tongue

GRRR!!!

Don't you people ever listen when I say " I DON'T UPDATE OP TEXT" and that "I NEVER HAVE".

If you didn't notice this, I wonder how many incorrect texts were placed in the wiki? 
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« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2011, 09:18:50 PM »

To avoid confusing the amendment that just finished, I plan to open the vote on the next amendment (44:30 by Mr. bgwah) tomorrow. (I have classes from 8 till 12 so I might not be on till afternoonish, if BK is on I encourage him to go ahead and start it).

If you guys want to go ahead an start it now, I'll gladly risk some confusion in order to save time, as you guys know. Tongue


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« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2011, 09:24:08 PM »

Oh, you're right... I looked at the first post and saw it was recently edited, so I figured that was the updated version. Yankee must have just changed the title. My bad. Tongue

I don't really care about the two dollar bill either way. If one doesn't like tmth, then at least he's on the bill nobody ever sees or uses... Tongue

GRRR!!!

Don't you people ever listen when I say " I DON'T UPDATE OP TEXT" and that "I NEVER HAVE".

If you didn't notice this, I wonder how many incorrect texts were placed in the wiki?  

When I update the Wiki I almost always start at the end of the thread to make sure I add the most recent version of the legislation. Not that it's my job to edit the Wiki, though I often do it anyway...

Which is why, seeing you confused about the OP mistake sent all kinds of "oh sh**t" emotions through my head. I mean some other Senator, it isn't as consequential.

I always thought the AG was suppose to handle the wiki pages for legislation.

While we are on this subject, how do you create a wiki page from scratch?  
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« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2011, 12:07:13 PM »

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« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2011, 12:14:06 PM »

Now that we have incorporated PS and not thrown anyone else off the train to do it, I think we should preserve the current text (Can be viewed on the previous page) as is.


So Nay.
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« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2011, 02:54:20 PM »

There is one hell of a controversy that could be created here.

The lack of a clause in an amendment doesn't necessarily remove it from the text when it is passed.

My amendment for instance had only two clauses listed, and it of course didn't remove the other 9, from the bill.

If bgwah desired to remove clause 11, the clearest way to do it, was to include it with a strikethrough across it. Or say "clause 11 is removed". Of course, and here we have a limitation of our process, because this was the introduced as a change to the current text at that time (no 11), after another amendment had previously been introduced (With 11). The passage of said amendment then alters the text. In such situation I think it is appropriate to give the amendment's sponsor, time to update their text. Unfortunately, I didn't think of this possible problem before I started the vote.   Tongue

Since their has been an issue raised about the PPT making some bold assumptions (A certain final vote in the CSS), I don't feel comfortable deciding this one way or the other.

There are avenues to clarify this.
1. Have the presiding officer interpet it (I'd prefer not to), possibly using stated intent of amendment sponsor as a guide (I am fine with this, but others might disapprove).
2. Upon passage, introduce another amendment to either replace photo with portrait in clause 11, or remove clause 11.
3. Stop the vote, update the text and start another vote.
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« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2011, 02:59:41 PM »

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« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2011, 03:04:42 PM »

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Remaining consistent, wouldn't this amendment produce this text if passed:

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Nice mess, we need amendment introduction standards to avoid this me thinks. Tongue
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