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Fmr President & Senator Polnut
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« on: August 15, 2011, 09:13:51 PM »

The only opposition I have is that I don't think it's fair to have the SoFE have to count 5 different voting methods... I'm not sure how many contested counts you've been around for, and how nasty they can be... but this is my objection to it.... it has nothing to do with Regional rights.

If there can be basic universal standards applied, I might be able to see beyond the potential problems. 
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Fmr President & Senator Polnut
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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2011, 11:29:03 PM »


Honestly, I don't see a safeguard - it's all platitudes

If this were to go ahead - a very strict set of standards need to be listed and met.
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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2011, 12:24:48 AM »

Thinking on it, I do want to have an open-mind on this - but the reasons need to go beyond the 'regional rights' argument... which I think is a bit of a crock..
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Fmr President & Senator Polnut
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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2011, 10:38:24 PM »

Are we talking about setting up an electoral college here? Because otherwise I don't see how the regions could administer the Presidential election.

I was going to ask that question.
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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2011, 12:56:16 AM »

I think considering the issues in the Southeast - one of the standards that needs to be explicit in any amendment like this is to ensure a uniform public or private voting system.
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Fmr President & Senator Polnut
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« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2011, 01:04:17 AM »

I think considering the issues in the Southeast - one of the standards that needs to be explicit in any amendment like this is to ensure a uniform public or private voting system.

What happened in the Southeastern? My amendment says in public.

I believe - the Senators from the SE might be able to enlighten us on this - I heard something about an amendment to allow the SE to hold secret ballots at the regional level?
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Fmr President & Senator Polnut
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« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2011, 06:21:01 PM »

I think considering the issues in the Southeast - one of the standards that needs to be explicit in any amendment like this is to ensure a uniform public or private voting system.

What happened in the Southeastern? My amendment says in public.

I believe - the Senators from the SE might be able to enlighten us on this - I heard something about an amendment to allow the SE to hold secret ballots at the regional level?

The only amendment I know of is the one I offered two days ago in this thread, TO BAN SECRET BALLOTS. What are you talking about?

At least I didn't imagine it... I can't keep an eye on everything Tongue
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Political Matrix
E: -2.71, S: -5.22

« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2011, 07:28:54 PM »

I think considering the issues in the Southeast - one of the standards that needs to be explicit in any amendment like this is to ensure a uniform public or private voting system.

What happened in the Southeastern? My amendment says in public.

I believe - the Senators from the SE might be able to enlighten us on this - I heard something about an amendment to allow the SE to hold secret ballots at the regional level?

The only amendment I know of is the one I offered two days ago in this thread, TO BAN SECRET BALLOTS. What are you talking about?

At least I didn't imagine it... I can't keep an eye on everything Tongue

You had your eye on it long enough to see "secret ballot", but not the words "May not employ" earlier in the sentence? Tongue

I didn't read it, it came up in discussion...
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E: -2.71, S: -5.22

« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2011, 12:15:49 AM »

I think considering the issues in the Southeast - one of the standards that needs to be explicit in any amendment like this is to ensure a uniform public or private voting system.

What happened in the Southeastern? My amendment says in public.

I believe - the Senators from the SE might be able to enlighten us on this - I heard something about an amendment to allow the SE to hold secret ballots at the regional level?

The only amendment I know of is the one I offered two days ago in this thread, TO BAN SECRET BALLOTS. What are you talking about?

At least I didn't imagine it... I can't keep an eye on everything Tongue

You had your eye on it long enough to see "secret ballot", but not the words "May not employ" earlier in the sentence? Tongue

I didn't read it, it came up in discussion...

What "issues" were you refering to then in the SE? That is what you iniated the discussion with.

I misunderstood the proposal... carry on.
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