OH-PPP: Obama @ 44% approval, leads Republicans by at least 2%

[krazen1211]

IIRC it only passed the Ohio Senate by one vote, despite the GOP having an over 2/3 majority.

Unionization only passed by 1 vote in the Ohio Senate.

[Badger]

IIRC it only passed the Ohio Senate by one vote, despite the GOP having an over 2/3 majority.

Unionization only passed by 1 vote in the Ohio Senate.

Yes, but with a quarter of Republicans opposed stripping unionization rights. SB 5 is just that radical (and wrongheaded).

@ Torie: Collective bargaining rights /=/ overpaying public employees. If we were truly talking about "what the free market allows", we wouldn't be inserting government interference with employee's right to organize to negotiate with employers instead of making it punishable by jail and stiff fines.

[Torie]

IIRC it only passed the Ohio Senate by one vote, despite the GOP having an over 2/3 majority.

Unionization only passed by 1 vote in the Ohio Senate.

Yes, but with a quarter of Republicans opposed stripping unionization rights. SB 5 is just that radical (and wrongheaded).

@ Torie: Collective bargaining rights /=/ overpaying public employees. If we were truly talking about "what the free market allows", we wouldn't be inserting government interference with employee's right to organize to negotiate with employers instead of making it punishable by jail and stiff fines.

Yes, Badger, but that system results in overcompensation, particularly via pensions, so it needs to be changed. That is another topic for another day. It is fairly complex actually - the dynamic between public employees and the politicians who are their employers, and sometimes, when they increase public employee benefits, they increase their own. It's a mess really. Federal employees by the way have no bargaining rights over compensation whatsoever, as I am sure that you know. And the system works much better. Federal employees do have certain statutory rights to fair treatment, but not over compensation - of any kind or nature.

[TJ in Oregon]

Upon further consideration, I think I can explain why there are more liberals and conservatives in this poll than in others. PPP gives five options to describe one's ideology: Very Liberal, Somewhat Liberal, Moderate, Somewhat Conservative, and Very Conservative. This analysis has taken the "somewhat" and "very" categories and added them together, which is not the same as just asking "conservative", "liberal", or "moderate" because presumably some of the people who chose "somewhat liberal" or "somewhat conservative" would have chosen "moderate" if only given three options.