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John Dibble
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« on: August 19, 2011, 02:38:18 PM »

God actually calls constellations by name in His rebuke of Job. "Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?  Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons?"

Did he actually say Pleiades and Orion in the Hebrew version, or is this just how it was translated into English so that people reading an English Bible would understand what the heck God was saying? I'm quite sure that Moses and his people would refer to them as something else.

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Well, some people think that. Others aren't sure.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazzaroth


More importantly, how do you know that this interpretation of the Zodiac as telling some kind of story relevant to the Christian God is even accurate? How do you know that the zodiac weren't some other religion's thing and some people who would like it to fit into their own haven't co-opted it for the Christian religion? I mean, if these zodiac constellations were important symbols to Christianity don't you think there would be a more explicit mention of that in the Bible?

Also, being the astronomy buff that you are, you are no doubt aware that the stars are actually moving and that in time the positions of the stars that make up these constellations will change relative to one another and so what we see will also change, right? If these zodiac are meant to be some kind of gospel sign, why would they change?

http://news.discovery.com/space/changing-constellations-50000-years.html
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John Dibble
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« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2011, 05:50:55 PM »

I highly doubt the context of Job is 50,000 years ago.  For all intents and purposes, the stars of the zodiac are in the same configuration as they were in the time of Moses, or Job, or when the Temple of Esneh in Egypt was built.

You're missing the point - how will it be relevant to people 50,000 years from now, though?
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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2011, 08:28:34 AM »

I highly doubt the context of Job is 50,000 years ago.  For all intents and purposes, the stars of the zodiac are in the same configuration as they were in the time of Moses, or Job, or when the Temple of Esneh in Egypt was built.

You're missing the point - how will it be relevant to people 50,000 years from now, though?

you're missing the point - the bible's timeline for the future may very well be much much shorter than 50k years...

Ah, that's right - you have an irrational belief that the world is going to end based on the predictions of people who knew next to nothing about the real scope of the universe.

Anywho, you completely ignored this, which is really the more important portion:

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