Official 2011-2012 Club Soccer/Football thread

[minionofmidas]

First real derby in 49 years coming up on sunday.

[minionofmidas]

First real derby in 49 years coming up on sunday.

Some Eintracht supporter once told me that there is not much hate, or even rivalry, towards the FSV, and that he actually enjoys to visit their home matches and roots for them. Is that true / representative for Eintracht fans?

Well, actually going to the occasional FSV match instead of forever talking about it and maybe getting to it once a year is not representative, no. (And even then, it's probably limited to us actual city dwellers, rather than the suburbanites.) I had a phase when I went to the FSV fairly regularly; then again that was a time when Stepanovic was gone from Eintracht and FSV were finally winning promotion to 2nd division again (you may recall how that turned out). And I was still living in Bornheim, and was an active member of the FSV's hockey department.

Their is not much hate, or even rivalry, left. It's all too long ago. The FSV was relegated from the old Oberliga Süd in 1962, a year before the Bundesliga was formed, and had been a bottom-dweller there for much of the second half of its existence (the last duel was actually a cup tie... in december 62. 16 years before I was born to the day, as a matter of fact. Of course, there've been competitive matches of Eintracht II vs FSV and also Eintracht II vs FSV II since, but it doesn't count). Their last win against Eintracht was in 1955. It's a small miracle the club survived and maintained it's clear no.2 position at all, really.
If you look through the archives at sports coverage of the 20s and 30s though... um wow. It seems to have been one of the most hateful derbies around back in its day.

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[minionofmidas]

Let's just not confuse this with the Euro thread!

Yes. This will be for everybody's ramblings about the League football of their choice. Heck, if anybody cared they could even discuss US league football here.

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First real derby in 49 years coming up on sunday.

That was anticlimactic.
Though it mirrors the result of the very last league game before then.

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Traditionally Bornheim. It's where the club is from. How true it is exactly I cannot say, probably some truth to it EDIT: make that "certainly some truth to it. Certainly they're all from the city proper. (In a blog comment I read yesterday, somebody was shockedly reporting the sighting of an FSV jersey in Dortelweil, not exactly an outer suburb.) Matters get more complex because FSV attendances are very low in absolute terms but a lot higher than they used to be - I've been to games in the 90s with ~400 people in the unreconstructed Bornheimer Hang ground, which could hold 15,000. But the club's 100% (in Frankfurt) name rec. and a general sympathy for it always existed. So there was always a degree of dormant fan potential, and these things tend to be passed down in families irrespective of current domicile.
And then there's the issue of just how ridiculously close the FSV and Eintracht "homes" are to each other (though Eintracht moved there in the 20s, starting out on a meadow where the Holzhausenviertel now is, and stopped playing their games there in the 60s when they moved south of the river. The youth teams etc still play at the Riederwald though, in the part that's technically in Seckbach.)

http://maps.google.de/maps?q=Frankfurter-Volksbank-Stadion&hl=de&ll=50.130813,8.729925&spn=0.009023,0.022724&t=h&z=16&vpsrc=6

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Lol, I'd noticed last night that that game was going into overtime, read the 4-1 followed by some letters in brackets in the paper this morning, and totally missed the point that they meant "penalty shootout" rather than "after overtime".

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Lol, they draw a team from the first pot then they draw a group for it. Looks needlessly complicated.

EDIT: Ah, I see why that is now.

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Bayern against Villareal and ManCity. Good. That gives us hope to get rid of the bastards early.
And Leverkusen get Valencia and Chelsea. Ouch.

EDIT: YES! And Napoli with Bayern as well. Phil, I'm so rooting for your club.

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And a nice easy throwaway group G.

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Well done to Shamrock Rovers, with the help of a fantastic volley the other night they're first Irish club side to make the group stage of a European competition.

That seems to be Celtic Glasgow. Going by the jerseys.

Who might make it in via the green table, btw. Sion who beat them (and thus eliminated Scotland from group stages entirely while Ireland get a club in ) seem to have used a player they weren't allowed to use.

[minionofmidas]

You mean EL group stage, right?

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Bit difficult, as they do not take part in the game.

[minionofmidas]

Sion are out, Celtic are in.

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Yeah well, the second to last time I watched friends of mine play (this sunday. The last time was the A teams' game right afterwards), they lost 4-5 after being up 2-0 and 4-2.

[minionofmidas]

Trabzon ftw

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lol ManU

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I'll gladly take the draw. Good game.

Fun fact: Bayern have not yet won a game in which they conceded a goal this season.

Sad Scary fact: They've only conceded two...

EDIT: Corrected.

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Ouch. Alas, ManCity are no nicer. And wear an ugly colour.

[minionofmidas]

I'll gladly take the draw. Good game.

Fun fact: Bayern have not yet won a game in which they conceded a goal this season.

Let's hope it stays true. (They're down 1-0 away to Hanover as I speak.)

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Chealski down one nil against QPR, though ages yet. But also down to nine men.

Bayern down to ten.

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2-0!

So an end to this ridiculosity:

Bayern München        9         7    1    1         25:1    24

[minionofmidas]

And so are Bayern. 2-1 at the end (and 10 vs 10 before that).

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We had a rather unusual reason for a game cancellation today. Almost funny except that it's anything but:

The Cologne vs Mainz match was cancelled on account of attempted suicide by the referee.

Slit his wrists in his hotel room's bathtub sometime in the morning, to be precise. Motifs unknown so far.

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Randomly looking at wikipedia, I noticed that his first ever Bundesliga match in 2005 was between the same two teams.

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Ridiculous.