MA: Amendment to the Mideast Abortion Statute II (Statute)

[ZuWo]

You're acting like a bunch of Francoists, folks. Any way for the people to repeal this affront to freedom?

It's unconstitutional. Roe v Wade still stands and if the Governor signs it, I will challenge it on that basis.

This may open a big can of worms. If we start scanning each and every bill which has ever been passed in any Atlasian region by applying the criterion whether a certain bill may violate rulings made by a US court before the year 2004, we might find that many bills are actually "uncostitutional" in that sense.

[afleitch]

You're acting like a bunch of Francoists, folks. Any way for the people to repeal this affront to freedom?

It's unconstitutional. Roe v Wade still stands and if the Governor signs it, I will challenge it on that basis.

This may open a big can of worms. If we start scanning each and every bill which has ever been passed in any Atlasian region by applying the criterion whether a certain bill may violate rulings made by a US court before the year 2004, we might find that many bills are actually "uncostitutional" in that sense.

It is clear in the Constitution that those rulings are carried through into Atlasia and the wording of our constitution reflects the judicial ruling (right to privacy under due process) that 'legalised' abortion.

[ZuWo]

You're acting like a bunch of Francoists, folks. Any way for the people to repeal this affront to freedom?

It's unconstitutional. Roe v Wade still stands and if the Governor signs it, I will challenge it on that basis.

This may open a big can of worms. If we start scanning each and every bill which has ever been passed in any Atlasian region by applying the criterion whether a certain bill may violate rulings made by a US court before the year 2004, we might find that many bills are actually "uncostitutional" in that sense.

It is clear in the Constitution that those rulings are carried through into Atlasia and the wording of our constitution reflects the judicial ruling (right to privacy under due process) that 'legalised' abortion.

I don't necessarily challenge your interpretation of the matter. My point is that if we had a look at Atlasian bills passed in the past, we could find plenty of cases where US rulings could interfere with Atlasian legislation. It's not that I have actually done that, but I imagine that this could be the case. And this is the "can of worms" I was alluding to. Matters could become extremely complex and tedious.

[afleitch]

You're acting like a bunch of Francoists, folks. Any way for the people to repeal this affront to freedom?

It's unconstitutional. Roe v Wade still stands and if the Governor signs it, I will challenge it on that basis.

This may open a big can of worms. If we start scanning each and every bill which has ever been passed in any Atlasian region by applying the criterion whether a certain bill may violate rulings made by a US court before the year 2004, we might find that many bills are actually "uncostitutional" in that sense.

It is clear in the Constitution that those rulings are carried through into Atlasia and the wording of our constitution reflects the judicial ruling (right to privacy under due process) that 'legalised' abortion.

I don't necessarily challenge your interpretation of the matter. My point is that if we had a look at Atlasian bills passed in the past, we could find plenty of cases where US rulings could interfere with Atlasian legislation. It's not that I have actually done that, but I imagine that this could be the case. And this is the "can of worms" I was alluding to. Matters could become extremely complex and tedious.

The constitutional basis (right to privacy/due process) for Roe v Wade exists within the existing constitution. Any judicial ruling would probably be very concise as a result. If a regional assembly were to enact a law that violated Brown v the Board of Education it would be so apparent it wouldn't take much legal wrangling to strike it down. The same is true of any bill that contradicts Roe v Wade.

If the bill is passed and signed, then it sits on our books as an example of unconstitutional legislation. Abortion will still be permitted in the Region therefore the bill is nothing more than a 'trigger bill', but it is so strict and so much of an affront to both women and to the scientific secular debate concerning the beginning of 'personhood' that it has no place on the books at all.

[ZuWo]

If the bill is challenged and overturned, we are going to introduce a bill which will bypass Roe v. Wade. We will follow the path the Kansas State Legislature has shown us with their bill that establishes heavy restrictions for abortion clinics. I am confident that we'll be successful.

[afleitch]

If the bill is challenged and overturned, we are going to introduce a bill which will bypass Roe v. Wade. We will follow the path the Kansas State Legislature has shown us with their bill that establishes heavy restrictions for abortion clinics. I am confident that we'll be successful.

Is that the Kansas bill that was blocked by the court in July?

[ZuWo]

If the bill is challenged and overturned, we are going to introduce a bill which will bypass Roe v. Wade. We will follow the path the Kansas State Legislature has shown us with their bill that establishes heavy restrictions for abortion clinics. I am confident that we'll be successful.

Is that the Kansas bill that was blocked by the court in July?

Yes. The bill is currently blocked, but the last word has not been spoken yet.

[afleitch]

If the bill is challenged and overturned, we are going to introduce a bill which will bypass Roe v. Wade. We will follow the path the Kansas State Legislature has shown us with their bill that establishes heavy restrictions for abortion clinics. I am confident that we'll be successful.

Is that the Kansas bill that was blocked by the court in July?

Yes. The bill is currently blocked, but the last word has not been spoken yet.

I'll follow it closely then and may challenge your proposed law on the same basis.

[ZuWo]

So be it. Our new Judge will have something to do then.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

You bunch of santorums!

[ZuWo]

You bunch of santorums!

Considering that Santorum came out on top when I made the "Presidental Candidate Selector 2012 test", I'll take that as a compliment.

[Hash]

Hopefully we can challenge this freedom-hating bullsh**t now.

[ZuWo]

Hopefully we can challenge this freedom-hating bullsh**t now.

What a cultivated way of putting forward an argument for a vice-presidential candidate like you.

[California8429]

Hopefully we can challenge this freedom-hating bullsh**t now.

Do you honestly not care at all for all the lives that are and will be terminated?

[Hash]

Hopefully we can challenge this freedom-hating bullsh**t now.

Do you honestly not care at all for all the lives that are and will be terminated?

Actually, I care far much more about a woman's freedom to choose what the hell she wants to do with her body. She is faaaar more important than a fetus and has more gray matter than a fetus. I also care a lot more about having safe and legal abortions rather than illegal abortions and unsafe dangerous illegal abortions.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Voting is now closed.  The AYEs are 4, and the NAYs are 1.  The AYEs have it, and the bill is passed.  The bill is now passed onto the Governor for his signature or veto.