2012 NDP leadership convention

[Хahar 🤔]

It seems like Canadians use area codes to identify places much more than Americans do.

[MaxQue]

It seems like Canadians use area codes to identify places much more than Americans do.

It is very Canadian, yes, even if what Earl is false. I would think about it if it was in 450, too.
514 and 450 are used in Québec speech. 514 is Montreal, 450 is the suburbs and the exurbs.

There is also 418 (Quebec City and Eastern Quebec) and 819 (the rest. Ugly mess covering Western Quebec, Outaouais, Mauricie, Bois-Francs and Eastern Townships.)

[Holmes]

Excellent news. Central Canada means I will probably be able to go (although having a convention in Vancouver didn't stop me this year). Maybe I will be able to meet Holmes!

April would be exam time! January would've been much more doable for me, tbh, but oh well. I prefer the convention a bit later in the year.

[lilTommy]

Excellent news. Central Canada means I will probably be able to go (although having a convention in Vancouver didn't stop me this year). Maybe I will be able to meet Holmes!

Who decides who goes to the Conventions?

Technically the ridings, but I'm sure you could just show up at the convention and they'll randomly assign you a riding to represent.

Well, I don't have time to go there anyways. I'll focus on the campus association.

If it's in Montreal, you have no excuse!

I have the excuse than Outremont riding will be full of delegates already. And if all the members of Montreal goes, that will be a mess.

Even if I can pretend than I'm Abitibian and not from Montreal.

Who cares. Show up to the convention, and request to participate. You may represent Wild Rose or Cardigan or Selkirk-Interlake or Parry Sound-Muskoka. It doesn't matter...

Seems illogical, but it worked like that last time. Well, I don't see why I should speculate on a event which may be far away from Montreal in months.

My first convention i was an Alternate from Peterborough ON (BORING as hell) but managed to get Nova Scotia credentials... forget which riding, i was young and wanted to be able to participate with the NDPYouth caucus. In quebec we will NEED votes and voters, i'm sure the party would be itching (i want to say hot & horney) to get quebec francophone membership and riding organisers... hint hint

I would have loved to hit up Vancouver, but i'm a working man now so couldn't go

Xahar, its even more prominent in Toronto, your a 416'er (TO proper) or a 905'er (GTA suburbs)(even though we have two toronto area codes, the other is 647 but no one talkes to them anyway LOL)

[Holmes]

437 is also coming up in a few years for Toronto as well.

[MaxQue]

Nycole Turmel explained than the reason for no labour vote is than 2006 Convention decided to wrote "One Member, One Vote" in the Constitution, which meant than the will of members was no labour vote in leadership races.

To continue on that, the public servants union did a press release where they explained than this was a false debate, as unions backed the 2006 modification and than they didn't wanted to have role in votes by another way than through their members.

They are also not happy than than Mulcair said than unions were as important than ecological groups in the NDP. They saw in what Topp proposed (keeping union vote) "an obvious move to court union vote".

[MaxQue]

Rules should be annouced at 2:30PM.

According to the twitter account of the Radio-Canada political affairs TV program called "Les Coulisses du Pouvoir", co-hosted by Radio-Canada journalist which is in charge of Parliament Hill, Charlie Angus won't run.

[MaxQue]

Toronto, on March 24.

Next policy convention will be in 2013, in Quebec province, through, from what I understood.

15 000$ entry fee, spending limit of 500 000$.

The race will open to members before some day in February I can't remember.

[Holmes]

Toronto, on March 24.

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

ooh that's the weekend of the Toronto Comic-Con though. I could just go Sunday but all the good stuff happens on Saturday. Hmm! I don't know what to do.

[lilTommy]

Toronto, on March 24.

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

ooh that's the weekend of the Toronto Comic-Con though. I could just go Sunday but all the good stuff happens on Saturday. Hmm! I don't know what to do.

Worse than Sophie's Choice!!
I'm very excited that i should be able to attend now that i know its in TO! but i wonder why TO? over say Montreal or even ottawa?

[MaxQue]

Toronto, on March 24.

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

ooh that's the weekend of the Toronto Comic-Con though. I could just go Sunday but all the good stuff happens on Saturday. Hmm! I don't know what to do.

Worse than Sophie's Choice!!
I'm very excited that i should be able to attend now that i know its in TO! but i wonder why TO? over say Montreal or even ottawa?

Well, it was Jack Layton's city and it is well-linked to the rest of Canada
And what means "eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"?

[Hatman 🍁]

Toronto? WTF

Oh well. I'll try to be there!

[RogueBeaver]

Your Martha Hall Findlay (Ducasse) is apparently considering a run. Will he indirectly topple Mulcair by making a well-received speech?

[Хahar 🤔]

Xahar, its even more prominent in Toronto, your a 416'er (TO proper) or a 905'er (GTA suburbs)(even though we have two toronto area codes, the other is 647 but no one talkes to them anyway LOL)

Yeah, Toronto was what I was thinking of. References to the 416 and the 905 baffled me until I realized they were area codes. Here we don't refer to San Francisco as the 415.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

905 is REALLY the only area code that gets lots of use, (remember it came in prior to the big toronto merger) because it's easier than saying "The suburbs of Toronto, but not the suburbs that are in Metro Toronto, oh and also Hamilton"

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

We need a shorter list of who can actually win.

Thomas Mulcair, and Brian Topp are the media favs.
Peter Julian, and Paul Dewar are also popular.
Romeo Saganash, and Megan Leslie could also make an impact.
Peggy Nash could also run

People who I can't see winning
Peggy Nash, and Libby Davies are far too left wing.
Robert Chisholm, and Francoise Boivin are too politically weak to win, they could not even win past elections on their own "home turf"
Gary Doer, and Lorne Nystrom have been "out of the business" for too long IMO, and both were in it for a very long time, and are probably looking forward to private life

[DL]

Libby Davies speaks no French so she would never be a serious candidate - if even she was crazy enough to run. I'm not sure what makes you think Peggy Nash is "too leftwing". She strikes me as totally mainstream in her views. She was party President. She is Finance critic and she seems to tow the party line on everything. She also speaks French very well.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peggy_Nash

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Not even one line's worth of text before you hit one of those OMG moments for the media.

[DL]

If you are trying to say that anyone who has ever had any links to the labour movement is ipso-facto "far left" then that would label a huge proportion of the current NDP caucus and most of the other contenders. Brian Topp is currently executive director of a union ACTRA -I guess he's on the far left too. Or what about Paul Dewar who was active in the teachers union before being elected? Of course then there is the most extreme left-winger of all (not) Gary Doer the former presidetnt of the Manitoba Government Employees union!!

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

Ah, but as I've been hammering away at all thread long, it matters not who people are or what people do, it only matters what the media thinks who people are and what people do.

Nash is "seen" as very left-wing. Weather or not she is actually that left-wing is debatable, but if she wins the Conservatives will pummel her into a fine powder with it.

[adma]

Robert Chisholm, and Francoise Boivin are too politically weak to win, they could not even win past elections on their own "home turf"

In Chisholm's case, that's unfair.

[RogueBeaver]

Either Nash or Julian will be the left/union candidate, though Julian is by far the more saleable of the two. IMO Mulcair/Topp/Julian on the final ballot. And Teddy is 100% right that we will pummel Nash on that issue. We'll also pummel Topp on his union ties if he's elected, BTW.

[Hatman 🍁]

Nash would be a very good candidate in my opinion. Probably the top female candidate (although Boivin would be very good too!)

As for Libby Davies, unilingualism aside, she doesn't "look" like a leader. I'm sorry, but image if very important in politics.

[adma]

I don't think a "labour" reference is an "OMG moment"--look, she's NDP, she is what she is.  "Labour" just isn't that much of a critical dirty word in Canadian terms.  "Socialist" might be.  But not "labour".

[DL]

Nash is "seen" as very left-wing.

The only place I have ever seen Nash described as "very leftwing" is by you in this thread. That's it!