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« Reply #775 on: January 10, 2012, 12:03:56 PM »

St. Maurice-Champlain should go back to white, as their MP crossed the floor to Liberals.

If she hated the party so much, why bother to make an endorsement? And why would she have supported Mulcair, who in all likelyhood would have been b*tchy to such a c*nt (I have heard he hasn't been that nice to a lot of MPs)

Sorry for the language, but I'm not too happy.
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« Reply #776 on: January 10, 2012, 12:08:13 PM »

Uhh, the lady is 71 and battling cancer. Plus she won't run again anyways, what's the BFD here. Seat will flip next time as well.

Mulcair: When only 5/59 (Boulerice, Dube, Boivin, Turmel, Laverdiere) are making any sort of headway so far, I can understand the head-banging frustration.
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« Reply #777 on: January 10, 2012, 12:12:21 PM »

6/59. I would say than Saganash should count.

And some Montreal NDP sympathiser talked me about Christine Moore, I must assume she has some profile.
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« Reply #778 on: January 10, 2012, 01:36:11 PM »

St. Maurice-Champlain should go back to white, as their MP crossed the floor to Liberals.

If she hated the party so much, why bother to make an endorsement? And why would she have supported Mulcair, who in all likelyhood would have been b*tchy to such a c*nt (I have heard he hasn't been that nice to a lot of MPs)

Sorry for the language, but I'm not too happy.

Let it go, there's nothing that can be done.
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« Reply #779 on: January 10, 2012, 01:49:45 PM »

Yeah, anger at this sort of thing is understandable... but she was only a paper candidate who got swept to victory by the tide. It happens. Not a big loss.
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« Reply #780 on: January 10, 2012, 01:55:20 PM »

Moving on, I assume resident Dippers approve of Topp's "junk the Senate, institute PR" ideas?
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« Reply #781 on: January 10, 2012, 03:57:41 PM »

Moving on, I assume resident Dippers approve of Topp's "junk the Senate, institute PR" ideas?

I don't, but I think most dippers will. I say, keep the Senate, but elect it *with* PR.
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« Reply #782 on: January 10, 2012, 04:09:15 PM »

Moving on, I assume resident Dippers approve of Topp's "junk the Senate, institute PR" ideas?

I don't, but I think most dippers will. I say, keep the Senate, but elect it *with* PR.

That.

And I would add junk Brian Topp.
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« Reply #783 on: January 10, 2012, 04:15:46 PM »

So who do you guys support then? Though if somehow Nash becomes a *compromise* candidate I'll be ROFL for at least a week.
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« Reply #784 on: January 10, 2012, 05:09:40 PM »

I support Dewar; I've stated that at least once before.
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« Reply #785 on: January 10, 2012, 05:57:12 PM »

I'm a Mulcair guy. Get rid of the senate. We have enough lawmakers.
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« Reply #786 on: January 10, 2012, 06:31:34 PM »

One of your MP's has defected to our side. Her rationale is identical to mine.
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« Reply #787 on: January 10, 2012, 06:38:09 PM »

One of your MP's has defected to our side. Her rationale is identical to mine.

Posted a long time ago, and we came to the conclusion that she finally realized that she was a Grit all along, just in the wrong party.
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« Reply #788 on: January 10, 2012, 06:40:25 PM »

Moving on, I assume resident Dippers approve of Topp's "junk the Senate, institute PR" ideas?

I don't, but I think most dippers will. I say, keep the Senate, but elect it *with* PR.

Personally, I like this idea.
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« Reply #789 on: January 10, 2012, 06:53:58 PM »

i think its just the shock of her flipping, seemingly coming from nowhere... she should do the right "insert democratic" thing (NDP policy but that dosen't much matter to her now) and call for a by-election.

I'd be fine, as a dipper, will Brians move (i'm not voting for him) or the whats been mentioned here about moving to an elected senate.

but, do people think this will hurt Mulcair? since she did endorse him?
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« Reply #790 on: January 10, 2012, 06:58:09 PM »

How is he responsible for her defection? She said she still wishes him the best, BTW. Wonder if there'll be more...
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« Reply #791 on: January 10, 2012, 10:33:08 PM »

Moving on, I assume resident Dippers approve of Topp's "junk the Senate, institute PR" ideas?

I don't, but I think most dippers will. I say, keep the Senate, but elect it *with* PR.

Personally, I like this idea.

Hmmm, I wonder why? Wink

Actually, I quite admire the Australian electoral system, and wish we had something similar here.
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« Reply #792 on: January 11, 2012, 04:45:10 AM »

I did two poll maps of Saint-Maurice-Champlain, a regular one and one showing the Liberal strength,

http://canadianelectionatlas.blogspot.com/2012/01/saint-maurice-champlain-and-liberals.html

and a minor analysis to go with it.
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« Reply #793 on: January 11, 2012, 10:08:44 AM »

How is he responsible for her defection? She said she still wishes him the best, BTW. Wonder if there'll be more...

No nothing like that, i have heard some chatter in the Facebook world about this... mostly from people who have already said they support someone else though... its being used as foder.. "look Mulcairs liberal roots are showing... he wants us (NDP) to be liberals... he would leave like her if he doesn't win" thats kinda stuff.
just wondering if that even plays outside the committed supporters groups

Always love your analysis Hatman
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« Reply #794 on: January 11, 2012, 11:29:27 AM »

How is he responsible for her defection? She said she still wishes him the best, BTW. Wonder if there'll be more...

You know, Topp team is ready to say anything to win.
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« Reply #795 on: January 11, 2012, 12:12:44 PM »

Dewar got a major union endorsement this week, plus Linda Duncan's.
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« Reply #796 on: January 11, 2012, 01:25:46 PM »

No source for Duncan's endorsement yet, but it was mentioned on 308.

But, Dewar did get an endorsement from former provincial NDP leader Michael Cassidy. Mulcair got a big endorsement from MP Don Davies and also former BC MLA Norman Krog.

Updated map:
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« Reply #797 on: January 11, 2012, 03:48:01 PM »

No source for Duncan's endorsement yet, but it was mentioned on 308.

But, Dewar did get an endorsement from former provincial NDP leader Michael Cassidy. Mulcair got a big endorsement from MP Don Davies and also former BC MLA Norman Krog.

Updated map:

... Leonard Krog... i mentioned it last page. Hes a former 2003 leadership candidate on the provincial level; was the NDP lead on  BCRail too
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« Reply #798 on: January 11, 2012, 11:10:06 PM »

Looks like Linda Duncan will be endorsing Dewar tomorrow. That will be his first sitting MP endorsement and the first endorsement from any Alberta New Democrat. Also, it will mean that there will be at least one endorsement from every province. (Perhaps I should do a tally from each province?)
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« Reply #799 on: January 12, 2012, 07:49:34 AM »

No source for Duncan's endorsement yet, but it was mentioned
I thought we had agreed not to mention that site.
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