Denmark parliamentary election: 15-09-2011

[lowtech redneck]

You guys wouldn't happen to have a link to a party test preferably in English, or even Swedish? I'm sort of curious to which party I'd be considered closest to. I'm guessing either Venstre, Radikale Venstre, or Liberal Alliance. I can read written Danish rather decently, but when it comes to politics there's always there will always be strange an hard words that non-speakers will have a hard time understanding.

You wouldn't vote with a party that allies with the far-right ?

As opposed to parties that ally with the far-left?

[lowtech redneck]

You guys wouldn't happen to have a link to a party test preferably in English, or even Swedish? I'm sort of curious to which party I'd be considered closest to. I'm guessing either Venstre, Radikale Venstre, or Liberal Alliance. I can read written Danish rather decently, but when it comes to politics there's always there will always be strange an hard words that non-speakers will have a hard time understanding.

You wouldn't vote with a party that allies with the far-right ?

As opposed to parties that ally with the far-left?

You might have a point if that was anywhere remotely close to the truth.

Depends on one's perspective; I consider the Red-Green alliance parties to be far left, and the Danish People's Party has far less problematic origins than, say, the Socialist People's Party.

[lowtech redneck]

You guys wouldn't happen to have a link to a party test preferably in English, or even Swedish? I'm sort of curious to which party I'd be considered closest to. I'm guessing either Venstre, Radikale Venstre, or Liberal Alliance. I can read written Danish rather decently, but when it comes to politics there's always there will always be strange an hard words that non-speakers will have a hard time understanding.

You wouldn't vote with a party that allies with the far-right ?

As opposed to parties that ally with the far-left?

You might have a point if that was anywhere remotely close to the truth.

Depends on one's perspective; I consider the Red-Green alliance parties to be far left, and the Danish People's Party has far less problematic origins than, say, the Socialist People's Party.

You mean the split from the Social Democrats after they didn't overthrow the king after his failed coup in 1920, the support of Trotsky over Stalin, the fact that it founder was thrown in Sachsenhausen under the War, their history of being one of the main group of Freedom Fighters under the War or their split from USSR after the Soviet intervention in Hungary? As far as parties go they have a lot less ugly history than the Conservative, who are successor to Høire, who more or less establised a dictatorship from 1866 to 1901. The primary reason DPP have a less distinct history than SPP, is more or less because all far right parties closed after 1945, so they had to reestablish themselves, when enough people who didn't remember the war became adult and could vote.

That information is quite different from that which is contained on their Wikipedia page (and for the record, supporting Trotsky over Stalin merely makes a group less extreme, not commendable); are you referring to the actions of the Communist Party of Denmark? : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_People%27s_Party_(Denmark)#1959.E2.80.9369

I was referring to their origins in the Communist movement, which is a political ideology much farther to the left than anti-immigrant populism is to the right.  For that matter, I don't consider the Danish People's Party to be as far-right as 'Eurocommunism' is far-left.    

[lowtech redneck]

You guys wouldn't happen to have a link to a party test preferably in English, or even Swedish? I'm sort of curious to which party I'd be considered closest to. I'm guessing either Venstre, Radikale Venstre, or Liberal Alliance. I can read written Danish rather decently, but when it comes to politics there's always there will always be strange an hard words that non-speakers will have a hard time understanding.

You wouldn't vote with a party that allies with the far-right ?

As opposed to parties that ally with the far-left?

I think most people would agree that the far-left is vastly preferable to the far-right.

Most people on this forum, perhaps.

[lowtech redneck]

OK guy, thanks for letting us know.

Its always healthy to be reminded that one's bias is not universal.  Do you always have bull sessions with people who agree with you?

[lowtech redneck]

That's nice, but wikipedia aren't the answer to everything. To condemn SPP for it communist past are meaningless for people who don't know the context of its origin. The Social Democrats originated in a time, where a conservative royal supported semi-dictatorial ruled the country, it began moderate after this regime collapse in 1901, but after the king tried to coup the social liberal government, and the following social democratic "revolt" ended up compromising with the king (by letting the monarchy survive), the communists felt that the social democrats had betrayed their people and split from the social democrats. Most of the communist leaders was under the war either in KZ-camps, undeground (and member of the partisan movement) or fleed the country. Unsurprising this made them more loyal to USSR and Stalin after the War (while before the war they had been more hostile to Stalin), but it didn't keep them from split from USSR after the Soviet intervention in Hungary as the first communist party in West Europe, they used the next few decades to push for creation of a independent from USSR Eurosocialism. In my eyes that's a more worthy history than most parties around the world.

...and that's why using Wikipedia to pass judgement of random parties around based on a wikipedia article are not a good idea.

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My point being that they originated from the Communist movement, which is substantially more extreme than anti-immigration populist movements.  Of course they moderated over time....as have the 'far-right' political parties (including most of the parties that actually did originate from fascist movements).  I just think its absurd to personally blacklist a party in a Parliamentary setting for strategically allying with one type of off-center party but not another, which was the point of my original post.

[lowtech redneck]

Heh.  If anyone is the least bit interested in an "American-style right-winger's" opinion, I'm not entirely displeased with the results.  It seems that the social-liberal party is the king-maker in this election cycle, and they are one of the three long-established Danish parties I would actually vote for.