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« Reply #650 on: September 14, 2012, 12:17:34 PM »

Obama drops 1 in Gallup tracking poll, to 49. Romney stays same at 44. Obama +5.  (As an aside, shows you  how ridiculous Rasmussen's wild swings are)

gallup shows a slow decrease and it'is normal, considering that his poll is on 7 days. The bill clinton and obama speechs are still in...
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« Reply #651 on: September 14, 2012, 12:22:38 PM »

Anyone to give to me the party id of the ras national poll ? because I don't think that it's R +4... Only the august month was R +4 but the juny and july months were +- tied.
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« Reply #652 on: September 14, 2012, 12:25:43 PM »

So why is Reuters showing this while Rasmussen is showing what it shows. Both can't be correct.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/13/us-usa-campaign-idUSBRE88C1MS20120913

I think you made my point. I wasn't arguing that Ras and Gallup and Reuters have different numbers. I argued that swings can be related to the length of the rolling average.  Consider that just two days ago Reuters had the race at 46-43%, and then one day later it was 48-41%, and they use a smaller rolling average than Gallup. That sort of backs up what I said to begin with, right?  The smaller the rolling average, the more likely you are to see what YOU referred to as "wild swings."
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« Reply #653 on: September 14, 2012, 04:08:03 PM »

So why is Reuters showing this while Rasmussen is showing what it shows. Both can't be correct.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/13/us-usa-campaign-idUSBRE88C1MS20120913

Because Rasmussen is full of bunk gas.

No, it seems to be more accurate that Reuters.
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« Reply #654 on: September 14, 2012, 05:35:08 PM »

So why is Reuters showing this while Rasmussen is showing what it shows. Both can't be correct.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/13/us-usa-campaign-idUSBRE88C1MS20120913

Because Rasmussen is full of bunk gas.

No, it seems to be more accurate that Reuters.

Scotty is more accurate than Reuters?!?!?!?! Roll Eyes Roll Eyes In what kind of deranged right-wing, Medicare-slashing, Oliver Twist killing, hackish, trollish world do you live in?
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« Reply #655 on: September 14, 2012, 08:36:13 PM »

So why is Reuters showing this while Rasmussen is showing what it shows. Both can't be correct.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/13/us-usa-campaign-idUSBRE88C1MS20120913

Because Rasmussen is full of bunk gas.

No, it seems to be more accurate that Reuters.

Scotty is more accurate than Reuters?!?!?!?! Roll Eyes Roll Eyes In what kind of deranged right-wing, Medicare-slashing, Oliver Twist killing, hackish, trollish world do you live in?

Yes, as the link that you posted showed the RCP average as being +3.3 for Obama.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #656 on: September 15, 2012, 02:40:50 PM »

The Ipsos/Reuters "daily" tracking poll is turning into more of an occasional tracking poll.

According to the Ipsos website it wasn't published on Wednesday (while their national phone poll was), or Friday this week.
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« Reply #657 on: September 15, 2012, 02:47:19 PM »

Gallup

Obama:  49 (u)

Romney:  45 (+2)

The bounce is wearing off; we will see how much of ot was in the numbers.
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« Reply #658 on: September 15, 2012, 07:04:04 PM »

Gallup

Obama:  49 (u)

Romney:  45 (+2)

The bounce is wearing off; we will see how much of ot was in the numbers.

Romney +1 and not+2

and tomorrow, the day after obama speech go away...
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« Reply #659 on: September 16, 2012, 12:03:26 PM »

Rasmussen: 49-48 Obama

Gallup: 48-45 Obama
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« Reply #660 on: September 16, 2012, 12:52:29 PM »

Rasmussen: 49-48 Obama

Gallup: 48-45 Obama

come back to the situation before the conventions... 2 things maybe changed: better fav for Romney and base more energized for obama.
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« Reply #661 on: September 17, 2012, 10:07:40 AM »
« Edited: September 17, 2012, 12:13:47 PM by MorningInAmerica »

9/17/12 - Monday

Rasmussen: Romney +2
Obama: 45% (-1)
Romney: 46% (-)

w/ leaners: TIE
Obama: 48% (-1)
Romney: 48% (-)

Rasmussen swing state poll: Romney +2
Obama: 45% (-)
Romney: 47% (-)

Rasmussen swing state w/ leaners: Romney +2
Obama: 47%
Romney: 49%

Gallup Registered Voters: Obama +3
Obama: 48% (-)
Romney: 45% (-)
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« Reply #662 on: September 17, 2012, 10:45:43 AM »

What states does Rasmussen consider 'swing' states?
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« Reply #663 on: September 17, 2012, 11:50:11 AM »

What states does Rasmussen consider 'swing' states?

The states collectively hold 146 Electoral College votes and include Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin
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« Reply #664 on: September 17, 2012, 12:15:18 PM »

Not bad, considering many in that list were supposed to be more favourable for Obama.
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« Reply #665 on: September 17, 2012, 12:25:27 PM »

Not bad, considering many in that list were supposed to be more favourable for Obama.

Knowing Rasmussen, they probably polled 70% North-Carolinians and 30% everyone else or something. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #666 on: September 17, 2012, 12:47:33 PM »

Gallup is unchanged

Obama: 48
Romney: 45


Approval is also unchanged at 50/44
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« Reply #667 on: September 17, 2012, 01:33:20 PM »

What states does Rasmussen consider 'swing' states?

The states collectively hold 146 Electoral College votes and include Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin

Romney +2 is fantastic with PA in the mix.  There could be 1-2 of the smaller states showing a large lead, however.
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« Reply #668 on: September 17, 2012, 01:41:25 PM »

You really start to see the power of Rasmussen whenever you see any GOP pundit on TV. Whenever someone talks about the polls and how Romney is losing they always say "well the Rasmussen poll shows...."  On Real Time with Ball Maher some GOPer started that and then everyone just started laughing at him. Of course it was a liberal group but even the GOPer seemed half-heated about the whole thing.
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« Reply #669 on: September 17, 2012, 01:55:04 PM »

Romney leading by +2 in that collection of swing states makes no sense if you look at Rasmussen's actual state by state polling, IMO.
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« Reply #670 on: September 17, 2012, 02:07:09 PM »

You really start to see the power of Rasmussen whenever you see any GOP pundit on TV. Whenever someone talks about the polls and how Romney is losing they always say "well the Rasmussen poll shows...."  On Real Time with Ball Maher some GOPer started that and then everyone just started laughing at him. Of course it was a liberal group but even the GOPer seemed half-heated about the whole thing.

Ras is not the only pollster to give a tied race. Answer in november.
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« Reply #671 on: September 17, 2012, 02:48:27 PM »

What states does Rasmussen consider 'swing' states?

The states collectively hold 146 Electoral College votes and include Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin

Since Obama leads in all these states, Scott proves once again he's a troll.
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« Reply #672 on: September 17, 2012, 02:55:39 PM »

What states does Rasmussen consider 'swing' states?

The states collectively hold 146 Electoral College votes and include Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin

Since Obama leads in all these states, Scott proves once again he's a troll.

Romney leads in NC. CO, WI, NV, VA, OH, FL are tied. Ok for the rest.
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« Reply #673 on: September 17, 2012, 02:59:03 PM »

What states does Rasmussen consider 'swing' states?

The states collectively hold 146 Electoral College votes and include Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin

Since Obama leads in all these states, Scott proves once again he's a troll.

Romney leads in NC.
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« Reply #674 on: September 17, 2012, 03:24:45 PM »

WaPo has an article today just about what I was saying on how important Rasmussen is to the GOP polling pushback

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/09/17/rasmussen-the-gops-cure-for-the-common-poll/
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