National Tracking Poll Thread

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

It's your unapologetic glee over whites voting as a block and, more importantly, your victim complex 'war on whites' that lets your sheet show.

Why is it "racist" to express "glee" that a bloc of voters is strongly in favor of your candidate?  Would citing the black vote in a state be equally racist? 

JJ... you're not stupid. If you've read his posts enough, you know exactly what he means, and no amount of feigned outrage will change it.

Not feigned outrage. 

I think it perfectly reasonable to look at demographic groups and cheer when your side's demographic group turns out, or more strongly moves to your candidate.

I think it is the worst hypocrisy to assign a racist reason when the other side does the same thing.   

....you've completely and utterly missed my point. You've ignored the specific poster's past contributions... analysis of the demographics is fine, but this is NOT what he's doing.

It's sad you don't understand nuance, and with that.... good evening.

[J. J.]

It's your unapologetic glee over whites voting as a block and, more importantly, your victim complex 'war on whites' that lets your sheet show.

Why is it "racist" to express "glee" that a bloc of voters is strongly in favor of your candidate?  Would citing the black vote in a state be equally racist? 

JJ... you're not stupid. If you've read his posts enough, you know exactly what he means, and no amount of feigned outrage will change it.

Not feigned outrage. 

I think it perfectly reasonable to look at demographic groups and cheer when your side's demographic group turns out, or more strongly moves to your candidate.

I think it is the worst hypocrisy to assign a racist reason when the other side does the same thing.   

....you've completely and utterly missed my point. You've ignored the specific poster's past contributions... analysis of the demographics is fine, but this is NOT what he's doing.

It's sad you don't understand nuance, and with that.... good evening.

I have followed the nuances.  There is nothing wrong with cheering the turnout of your side's supporters, or with stronger support of that group.  That is what krazen has been doing. 

Krazen hasn't been posting, from what I can tell, that we shouldn't have a black president or that black people shouldn't vote.  Krazen has posting about increased support for Romney with white voters.  He's happy about it, and I'd bet he'd be overjoyed if Romney would also increase his support with black voters. 

I'm certainly cheering the increased support Romney may be getting with women and Hispanic voters; I'd love for him to increase his support with black voters.

It is hypocritical to complain about this.   

[Umengus]

PPP Tracker

Obama - 48
Romney - 48

with party id D +6 and whites at 70 %

Romney leads independents by 12.

I don't buy a Obama lead in Ohio with this result at national level.

[Silent Hunter]

PPP Tracker

Obama - 48
Romney - 48

with party id D +6 and whites at 70 %

Romney leads independents by 12.

I don't buy a Obama lead in Ohio with this result at national level.

I do if Romney's lead in the South is big enough.

[Sbane]

It's your unapologetic glee over whites voting as a block and, more importantly, your victim complex 'war on whites' that lets your sheet show.

Why is it "racist" to express "glee" that a bloc of voters is strongly in favor of your candidate?  Would citing the black vote in a state be equally racist? 

JJ... you're not stupid. If you've read his posts enough, you know exactly what he means, and no amount of feigned outrage will change it.

Not feigned outrage. 

I think it perfectly reasonable to look at demographic groups and cheer when your side's demographic group turns out, or more strongly moves to your candidate.

I think it is the worst hypocrisy to assign a racist reason when the other side does the same thing.   

....you've completely and utterly missed my point. You've ignored the specific poster's past contributions... analysis of the demographics is fine, but this is NOT what he's doing.

It's sad you don't understand nuance, and with that.... good evening.

I have followed the nuances.  There is nothing wrong with cheering the turnout of your side's supporters, or with stronger support of that group.  That is what krazen has been doing. 

Krazen hasn't been posting, from what I can tell, that we shouldn't have a black president or that black people shouldn't vote.  Krazen has posting about increased support for Romney with white voters.  He's happy about it, and I'd bet he'd be overjoyed if Romney would also increase his support with black voters. 

I'm certainly cheering the increased support Romney may be getting with women and Hispanic voters; I'd love for him to increase his support with black voters.

It is hypocritical to complain about this.   

What about his "war on whites" meme? That is what shows his true colors. What do you think about that JJ?

[J. J.]

What about his "war on whites" meme? That is what shows his true colors. What do you think about that JJ?

Where are the "war on whites" posts.  Yes, it is possible I missed them. 

[Landslide Lyndon]

What about his "war on whites" meme? That is what shows his true colors. What do you think about that JJ?

Where are the "war on whites" posts.  Yes, it is possible I missed them. 

How convenient.
Maybe you should make an appointment with your ophthalmologist.

[J. J.]

Rasmussen:

Romney:  50, u

Obama:  46, -1

[J. J.]

What about his "war on whites" meme? That is what shows his true colors. What do you think about that JJ?

Where are the "war on whites" posts.  Yes, it is possible I missed them. 

How convenient.
Maybe you should make an appointment with your ophthalmologist.

Okay, well where are these posts? 

Do I need an ophthalmologist or do you and Polnut need to visit a polygrapher? 

[You kip if you want to...]

The South will confirm every stereotype if Romney wins the popular vote, but loses the election based on strong support in the South alone...

[Warren 4 Secretary of Everything]

RAND Poll

Obama- 50.93%(+.37)

Romney- 44.58%(-.06)

Obama is at his highest total yet, forget Rasmussen.

[J. J.]

The South will confirm every stereotype if Romney wins the popular vote, but loses the election based on strong support in the South alone...

Maybe not.  Romney's support could be very strong in the west, and in states like IN.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

The South will confirm every stereotype if Romney wins the popular vote, but loses the election based on strong support in the South alone...

Maybe it's time to bring back Reconstruction.

I'm being serious.

[pepper11]

Why do the Dems on this board laugh at any poll that goes to two decimal points but treat Rand as a great pollster.

[Umengus]

RAND Poll

Obama- 50.93%(+.37)

Romney- 44.58%(-.06)

Obama is at his highest total yet, forget Rasmussen.

lol no. Ras was right in 2004 and 2008. Rand is unknow and has a very special methodology... Even PPP show a tie with a D+6 party id. If you apply the same party id, ras and ppp give the same result.

[Joe Biden 2020]

Why do the Dems on this board laugh at any poll that goes to two decimal points but treat Rand as a great pollster.

You have to remember the old rule.  If a poll favors Romney, throw it out.  If a poll favors Obama, keep it.

[J. J.]

The South will confirm every stereotype if Romney wins the popular vote, but loses the election based on strong support in the South alone...

Maybe it's time to bring back Reconstruction.

I'm being serious.

I'd love to see 80% of black voters voting Republican. 

[Franzl]

Why do the Dems on this board laugh at any poll that goes to two decimal points but treat Rand as a great pollster.

You have to remember the old rule.  If a poll favors Romney, throw it out.  If a poll favors Obama, keep it.

lol

Considering all the new Republican trolls on here....

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

You know what? We're going to know who was right and who was wrong in just over a week... It's such a pointless exercise. Arguing about this stuff doesn't make a tinkers cuss worth of difference.

[J. J.]

You know what? We're going to know who was right and who was wrong in just over a week... It's such a pointless exercise. Arguing about this stuff doesn't make a tinkers cuss worth of difference.

IIRC, RAND has an unusual system.  It is interesting to watch that.  Are they the future of polling or just a gimmick that is a piece of crap?

[Joe Biden 2020]

Why do the Dems on this board laugh at any poll that goes to two decimal points but treat Rand as a great pollster.

You have to remember the old rule.  If a poll favors Romney, throw it out.  If a poll favors Obama, keep it.

lol

Considering all the new Republican trolls on here....

We do have a lot more Republican trolls on here that we didn't have before the first debate.

The reverse of my rule applies with them.  Keep the Romney polls, but throw out the Obama polls.

So, what do we have to do?  Follow polnut's advice.

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

What about his "war on whites" meme? That is what shows his true colors. What do you think about that JJ?

Where are the "war on whites" posts.  Yes, it is possible I missed them. 

How convenient.
Maybe you should make an appointment with your ophthalmologist.

Okay, well where are these posts? 

Do I need an ophthalmologist or do you and Polnut need to visit a polygrapher? 

Registered Democrat 96% 3% 1% 235
Registered Undeclared 80% 11% 9% 295
Registered Republican 90% 4% 6% 207



Lol, junk. This poll does not reflect the war on whites.

[RJ]

Why do people pay attention to these national tracking polls??? There's no way either of these candidates are going to win this thing by 5% nationally! I doubt it's even 2.5%.

[J. J.]

What about his "war on whites" meme? That is what shows his true colors. What do you think about that JJ?

Where are the "war on whites" posts.  Yes, it is possible I missed them. 

How convenient.
Maybe you should make an appointment with your ophthalmologist.

Okay, well where are these posts? 

Do I need an ophthalmologist or do you and Polnut need to visit a polygrapher? 

Registered Democrat 96% 3% 1% 235
Registered Undeclared 80% 11% 9% 295
Registered Republican 90% 4% 6% 207



Lol, junk. This poll does not reflect the war on whites.

This is rather clearly a joke. 

Here is what he said further:

To quote you liberals and use your logic:

The universe in which a half dozen national pollsters have whites voting Republican by 20 points.



Obviously then, this poll is absurd due to a heavy mispolling of whites. Republicans have a large edge in voter registration in New Hampshire.

[Silent Hunter]

RAND Poll

Obama- 50.93%(+.37)

Romney- 44.58%(-.06)

Obama is at his highest total yet, forget Rasmussen.

lol no. Ras was right in 2004 and 2008.

Rasmussen was massively off in 2010