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« Reply #1600 on: October 27, 2012, 10:41:44 AM »

Romney is at his highest level yet in the Ras swing state tracking poll +6.  Doubtful Romney loses Ohio...
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« Reply #1601 on: October 27, 2012, 10:51:31 AM »

Romney is at his highest level yet in the Ras swing state tracking poll +6.  Doubtful Romney loses Ohio...
Except for the fact that he's never lead in a poll in Ohio, or Nevada for that matter.
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« Reply #1602 on: October 27, 2012, 10:57:07 AM »

Romney is at his highest level yet in the Ras swing state tracking poll +6.  Doubtful Romney loses Ohio...

He could just be up big in 2 or 3 states, NC and FL. 
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« Reply #1603 on: October 27, 2012, 11:22:15 AM »

Ipsos Reuters (Oct. 27):

47% Obama (+1)
45% Romney (nc)

The survey was conducted October 23-27. It sampled 1,665 registered voters and 1,291 likely voters.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/27/us-usa-campaign-poll-idUSBRE89K0A920121027
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« Reply #1604 on: October 27, 2012, 11:22:58 AM »

Excellent. Support for Obama is clearly growing.
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« Reply #1605 on: October 27, 2012, 11:36:22 AM »

Romney is at his highest level yet in the Ras swing state tracking poll +6.  Doubtful Romney loses Ohio...

He could just be up big in 2 or 3 states, NC and FL. 
Math doesn't work that way. The 11 states tracked are CO, FL, IA, MI, NV, NH, NC, OH, PA, VA, WI.
If the average is Romney +6, and the average of all the states except NC and FL are a tossup (optimistic for Romney), then Romney would have to be leading by double digits in NC and FL.

Truth of the matter is: either Scotty is pulling numbers out of his ass on this poll, or on the North Carolina one. (or both)
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« Reply #1606 on: October 27, 2012, 12:31:22 PM »

IBD/TIPP

Obama-46.6
Romney-44.5
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« Reply #1607 on: October 27, 2012, 12:41:13 PM »


but very good in 2004, 2006 and 2008.
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« Reply #1608 on: October 27, 2012, 12:42:18 PM »


And again, which election was more recent?
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« Reply #1609 on: October 27, 2012, 12:45:01 PM »


wit D+7 and Romney leading independents by 11
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« Reply #1610 on: October 27, 2012, 12:46:39 PM »

They were hardly spectacular in 2008, missing the result in the seven most-polled states in the final week by around 2.5%, a slightly larger error than ARG or Zogby:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IKhPZc5iEus/SfCoMmJLh7I/AAAAAAAAAEk/Ea5AlJ78Hho/S220/Wall+Street+Chart.jpg
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« Reply #1611 on: October 27, 2012, 12:46:40 PM »


it was not a presidential election. And the best of Rasmussen is his national tracking poll. His state polls can be wrong sometimes.
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« Reply #1612 on: October 27, 2012, 12:48:01 PM »


wit D+7 and Romney leading independents by 11

So, what do you picture them doing when someone answers republican? Hangup the phone?
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« Reply #1613 on: October 27, 2012, 12:48:37 PM »


wit D+7 and Romney leading independents by 11
As you know, of course, if Democrats were a smaller share of the sample, Romney wouldn't be doing so well with independents.
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« Reply #1614 on: October 27, 2012, 12:52:26 PM »


it was not a presidential election. And the best of Rasmussen is his national tracking poll. His state polls can be wrong sometimes.

They were poor in 2000, good in 2004, and merely average in 2008.

Silver has already destroyed the myth of Rasmussen being accurate.
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« Reply #1615 on: October 27, 2012, 01:06:17 PM »

Ipsos Reuters (Oct. 27):

47% Obama (+1)
45% Romney (nc)

The survey was conducted October 23-27. It sampled 1,665 registered voters and 1,291 likely voters.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/27/us-usa-campaign-poll-idUSBRE89K0A920121027

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« Reply #1616 on: October 27, 2012, 01:45:36 PM »

No change in Gallup's LV or RV polls today.
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« Reply #1617 on: October 27, 2012, 01:51:30 PM »

Romney continues to thrash him in Gallup

Romney 51
obama - 46
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« Reply #1618 on: October 27, 2012, 01:57:59 PM »

The strange thing about these trackers is that they all have wildly different numbers but seem to be staying pretty constant, floating a point or two daily around a certain point. Some times Romney has a good day or Obama has a good day, but overall there doesn't seem to be much change.

Rasmussen: Romney +3
Gallup: Romney +5
Reuters/Ipsos: Obama +1
IBD/TIPP: Obama +2
RAND: Obama +3
PPP: Tie
ABC/WaPo: Romney +1

So all seven of these guys think that the race is fairly stable. They just disagree about where it's stable.
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« Reply #1619 on: October 27, 2012, 01:58:45 PM »

And Silver predicted 54 house pickups by GOP and Rasmussen by 55, so technically he sucked worse than Rasmussen, what a sterling and objective source you have there.


it was not a presidential election. And the best of Rasmussen is his national tracking poll. His state polls can be wrong sometimes.

They were poor in 2000, good in 2004, and merely average in 2008.

Silver has already destroyed the myth of Rasmussen being accurate.
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« Reply #1620 on: October 27, 2012, 02:00:41 PM »


wit D+7 and Romney leading independents by 11
As you know, of course, if Democrats were a smaller share of the sample, Romney wouldn't be doing so well with independents.

wrong and ppp proved that 2 weeks ago with his Romney +2 and +4 polls. Rasmussen says the same. Gallup too.
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« Reply #1621 on: October 27, 2012, 02:04:30 PM »

The strange thing about these trackers is that they all have wildly different numbers but seem to be staying pretty constant, floating a point or two daily around a certain point. Some times Romney has a good day or Obama has a good day, but overall there doesn't seem to be much change.

Rasmussen: Romney +3
Gallup: Romney +5
Reuters/Ipsos: Obama +1
IBD/TIPP: Obama +2
RAND: Obama +3
PPP: Tie
ABC/WaPo: Romney +1

So all seven of these guys think that the race is fairly stable. They just disagree about where it's stable.

the answer is in the party id of their sample...
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« Reply #1622 on: October 27, 2012, 02:12:05 PM »

As for House pickups, you do know it is extremely difficult to estimate this with 435 races across America. Silver's model was pretty good in being within 10 seats. Additionally, he had the GOP keeping NV and CO senate seats in 2010.
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« Reply #1623 on: October 27, 2012, 02:12:36 PM »

The strange thing about these trackers is that they all have wildly different numbers but seem to be staying pretty constant, floating a point or two daily around a certain point. Some times Romney has a good day or Obama has a good day, but overall there doesn't seem to be much change.

Rasmussen: Romney +3
Gallup: Romney +5
Reuters/Ipsos: Obama +1
IBD/TIPP: Obama +2
RAND: Obama +3
PPP: Tie
ABC/WaPo: Romney +1

So all seven of these guys think that the race is fairly stable. They just disagree about where it's stable.

the answer is in the party id of their sample...

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« Reply #1624 on: October 27, 2012, 02:14:50 PM »

The strange thing about these trackers is that they all have wildly different numbers but seem to be staying pretty constant, floating a point or two daily around a certain point. Some times Romney has a good day or Obama has a good day, but overall there doesn't seem to be much change.

Rasmussen: Romney +3
Gallup: Romney +5
Reuters/Ipsos: Obama +1
IBD/TIPP: Obama +2
RAND: Obama +3
PPP: Tie
ABC/WaPo: Romney +1

So all seven of these guys think that the race is fairly stable. They just disagree about where it's stable.

the answer is in the party id of their sample...



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