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krazen1211
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« on: April 16, 2012, 03:58:37 PM »

Romney is on the rise.

This is possibly due to Obama threatening the public with outrageous tax. In 2010 the Republican party made landslide gains among successful high income voters compared to 2008.
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krazen1211
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2012, 05:45:18 PM »

Romney is on the rise.

This is possibly due to Obama threatening the public with outrageous tax. In 2010 the Republican party made landslide gains among successful high income voters compared to 2008.

This "outrageous tax" by any chance?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/153887/Americans-Favor-Buffett-Rule.aspx

The bills have got to be paid. The cost of, and the response to, the 'Crash of 2008' and the ensuring Great Recession was never going to come cheap. And that's the harsh reality of it

We tried that already. It was called the alternative minimum tax and was passed due to a few hundred millionaires. Now it affects thousands of middle class individuals.

Fool me once...
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krazen1211
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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2012, 05:47:15 PM »

Romney is on the rise.

This is possibly due to Obama threatening the public with outrageous tax. In 2010 the Republican party made landslide gains among successful high income voters compared to 2008.

This "outrageous tax" by any chance?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/153887/Americans-Favor-Buffett-Rule.aspx

The bills have got to be paid. The cost of, and the response to, the 'Crash of 2008' and the ensuring Great Recession was never going to come cheap. And that's the harsh reality of it

"Junk poll!  Junk poll!  Outlier!  Outlier!"

It doesn't have to be, no. But the Republican party made landslide gains among successful high income voters in 2010 and surely is banking on those gains for 2012. The best way to lock in those gains is to point out these confiscatory taxes.
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krazen1211
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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2012, 05:50:56 PM »

Romney is on the rise.

This is possibly due to Obama threatening the public with outrageous tax. In 2010 the Republican party made landslide gains among successful high income voters compared to 2008.

This "outrageous tax" by any chance?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/153887/Americans-Favor-Buffett-Rule.aspx

The bills have got to be paid. The cost of, and the response to, the 'Crash of 2008' and the ensuring Great Recession was never going to come cheap. And that's the harsh reality of it

"Junk poll!  Junk poll!  Outlier!  Outlier!"

It doesn't have to be, no. But the Republican party made landslide gains among successful high income voters in 2010 and surely is banking on those gains for 2012. The best way to lock in those gains is to point out these confiscatory taxes.

1%ers have been voting Republican for years.  This is a well-known fact.

Actually, GOP gains occurred heavily among the top 40% or so.
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krazen1211
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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2012, 05:58:18 PM »

The GOP made gains across the board in 2010.  Regardless, Obama is currently campaigning on a very popular issue.  I don't think what you are saying will be much of a factor.

You keep thinking that to be true, but people don't actually vote that way when higher taxes are threatening. See tax initiative 1098.
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krazen1211
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« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2012, 07:11:55 PM »

The GOP made gains across the board in 2010.  Regardless, Obama is currently campaigning on a very popular issue.  I don't think what you are saying will be much of a factor.

You keep thinking that to be true, but people don't actually vote that way when higher taxes are threatening. See tax initiative 1098.

Oh, so if Obama stops campaigning on an issue that 60% of Americans agree with him on, that will help him win in the general?  Nice try.

Uh huh. That's why of course outrageous tax policies fail even in King County.
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krazen1211
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« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2012, 08:26:47 PM »

The GOP made gains across the board in 2010.  Regardless, Obama is currently campaigning on a very popular issue.  I don't think what you are saying will be much of a factor.

You keep thinking that to be true, but people don't actually vote that way when higher taxes are threatening. See tax initiative 1098.

Oh, so if Obama stops campaigning on an issue that 60% of Americans agree with him on, that will help him win in the general?  Nice try.

Uh huh. That's why of course outrageous tax policies fail even in King County.

I'm sure a tax policy that was outrageous would.

Out of curiosity, under what circumstances, if any, would you actually accept a marginal tax increase on the highest bracket or couple of brackets?

Not would, has. We've already tried something very similar to the Buffett rule.

It would be extremely easy for an unscrupulous Pelosi to simply remove a '0' from the end of the Buffett rule tax and attack the middle class. Why would the middle class want to support the slippery slope of higher tax?

Horesepucky.
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krazen1211
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« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2012, 08:27:59 PM »

The GOP made gains across the board in 2010.  Regardless, Obama is currently campaigning on a very popular issue.  I don't think what you are saying will be much of a factor.

You keep thinking that to be true, but people don't actually vote that way when higher taxes are threatening. See tax initiative 1098.

Oh, so if Obama stops campaigning on an issue that 60% of Americans agree with him on, that will help him win in the general?  Nice try.

Uh huh. That's why of course outrageous tax policies fail even in King County.

There were some issues that voters had with this particular tax reform proposal, but the vast majority of Americans believe that higher income earners can and should pay a little more in taxes.

Sorry.

Clearly of course not the majority of the voting public. New Jersey municipalities across the state have also voted down higher tax.
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krazen1211
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« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2012, 09:12:30 PM »

Just to keep it interesting... here's the latest CNN poll:
Obama 52
Romney 43

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/images/04/16/rel4a.pdf.

Crap poll. CNN hasn't exactly been the gold standard in national polling.

Questionablecrosstabsoutlierjunkpoll

or

QCTOJP, for short.
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krazen1211
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« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2012, 12:19:47 PM »

http://www.politico.com/polls/politico-george-washington-university-battleground-poll.html
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0512/75973.html
http://images.politico.com/global/2012/05/bg_47_questionnaire.html




Likely Voters.



Romney: 48
Obama: 47
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krazen1211
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« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2012, 03:09:39 PM »

http://www.tipponline.com/presidency/news/presidency/race-tightens-obama-lead-over-romney-narrows-to-3-points

Investor's Business Daily/Christian Science Monitor/TIPP Poll


Registered Voters. Of course they ended up with a D+7 electorate.


46%  Democrat Barack Obama
43%  Republican Mitt Romney

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krazen1211
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« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2012, 09:37:23 AM »

Romney's favorables are soaring.


http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2012-05-14/poll-economy-obama-romney/54958250/1

Since becoming the presumptive Republican nominee, Romney's favorable-unfavorable rating has jumped to 50%-41%, his best ever and in the same neighborhood as Obama's 52%-46% standing. The former Massachusetts governor gets stronger ratings than the president when it comes to handling the economy, the issue likely to drive the campaign.

In the poll, 55% say the economy would get better over the next four years if Romney was elected, compared with 46% who say it would improve if Obama was re-elected. Twenty-seven percent say the economy would get worse in a Romney first term, compared with 37% who say that of an Obama second term.
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« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2012, 08:33:05 AM »

Ras tracker: 48 45
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« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2012, 08:26:00 AM »

Ras:

Obama 46
Romney 45
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krazen1211
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« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2012, 08:27:11 AM »

Ras tracker:

Romney 47
Obama 46
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« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2012, 12:00:52 PM »

Romney is going to take the lead in RCP for the first time.
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krazen1211
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« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2012, 01:49:14 PM »

RACE
White   
35%
56%
8%


3 polls now show Romney winning whites by 20 points.
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krazen1211
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« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2012, 01:29:20 PM »

Day 2:

Romney 49
Obama 44


Great news! Obama continues his collapse with whites.
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krazen1211
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« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2012, 01:51:06 PM »

Reuters-Ipsos

Obama 45% (-2)
Romney 45% (unc)

Among LVs. October 5-9.

Among RVs, Obama leads 45-42.



Latest:


Romney 45 (unc)
Obama 44 (-1)
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krazen1211
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« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2012, 01:02:36 PM »



Latest:

Romney 47 (+2)
Obama 44 (unc)
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krazen1211
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« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2012, 12:32:57 PM »

Gallup

RV
Obama: 48% (-2)
Romney: 46% (+1)

LV
Romney: 48%
Obama: 47% (-1)

Today the last pre-debate day of the sample dropped off.


Gallup

RV
Obama: 48% (unc)
Romney: 46% (unc)

LV
Romney: 49% (+1)
Obama: 47% (unc)
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krazen1211
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« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2012, 12:17:37 PM »

The polls have officially stopped making sense. How the hell can Obama be winning Ohio, tied in VA, CO and down 4 nationally?

Actually he's losing in VA and CO polls.
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krazen1211
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« Reply #22 on: October 16, 2012, 12:21:52 PM »

Reuter/Ipsos

Obama 46% (-1)
Romney 43% (-2)
11% undecided, just three weeks from Election Day?

Not sure I believe that.


Obama has been cut down to the 47%ers.
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krazen1211
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« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2012, 12:08:53 PM »




Glorious news!
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krazen1211
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« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2012, 08:57:50 AM »

Ras tracker;

Romney 49 (+1)
Obama 47 (unc)
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