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« Reply #25 on: December 31, 2004, 03:49:56 PM »

Handguns should be outlawed. There is no real purpose for them.

I don't think that rifles or shotguns should be regulated. You can protect yourself in your home with a rifle.

Even if that was true, would you outlaw things just because they have no purpose?
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« Reply #26 on: December 31, 2004, 05:07:19 PM »

Handguns should be outlawed. There is no real purpose for them.

I don't think that rifles or shotguns should be regulated. You can protect yourself in your home with a rifle.

Even if that was true, would you outlaw things just because they have no purpose?

If we used that logic, we would outlaw Democrats.
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« Reply #27 on: December 31, 2004, 05:52:45 PM »

This topic is called "guns" in response to that I say, I like guns, their fun to shoot.
Now, being serious, one of my favourite quotes about gun control is "there wouldn't be a first amendment without the second" many people would do well to remember that.
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« Reply #28 on: December 31, 2004, 06:31:42 PM »

This topic is called "guns" in response to that I say, I like guns, their fun to shoot.
Now, being serious, one of my favourite quotes about gun control is "there wouldn't be a first amendment without the second" many people would do well to remember that.
Gun control is a stable hand and a keen eye.
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« Reply #29 on: December 31, 2004, 06:42:23 PM »

As cute as these phrases are, they aren't really anything but cute phrases.

I'm against gun control, but you are not making a good case - or case at all, I'm afraid.
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« Reply #30 on: December 31, 2004, 06:55:39 PM »

As cute as these phrases are, they aren't really anything but cute phrases.

I'm against gun control, but you are not making a good case - or case at all, I'm afraid.
Duh, we're not trying.
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« Reply #31 on: December 31, 2004, 08:31:29 PM »

Handguns should be outlawed. There is no real purpose for them.

I don't think that rifles or shotguns should be regulated. You can protect yourself in your home with a rifle.

Even if that was true, would you outlaw things just because they have no purpose?

No I said there was no real purpose for them. By real I mean legitimate. They do have purposes, such as burglary and murder.
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« Reply #32 on: December 31, 2004, 08:35:40 PM »

Handguns should be outlawed. There is no real purpose for them.

I don't think that rifles or shotguns should be regulated. You can protect yourself in your home with a rifle.

Even if that was true, would you outlaw things just because they have no purpose?

No I said there was no real purpose for them. By real I mean legitimate. They do have purposes, such as burglary and murder.
So we should ban all handgun competitions in the Olympics because you don't consider it a legitimate use?
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« Reply #33 on: December 31, 2004, 08:44:11 PM »

I don't think they have handgun competitions in the Olympics.

Either way, having handguns in the Olympics isn't a legitimate reason for putting millions of people in danger.
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« Reply #34 on: December 31, 2004, 08:49:06 PM »

I don't think they have handgun competitions in the Olympics.

Either way, having handguns in the Olympics isn't a legitimate reason for putting millions of people in danger.
So lets ban cigarettes too.  There is no legit reason to have them, and they kill thousands and put millions of people in danger.
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« Reply #35 on: December 31, 2004, 08:54:56 PM »

People choose to smoke, they don't choose to get shot while walking on the street.

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« Reply #36 on: December 31, 2004, 08:57:22 PM »

People choose to smoke, they don't choose to get shot while walking on the street.


And they don't choose to get a whiff of lovely carbon monoxide + 300 other poisons when someone walks past them, sits beside them, or shares the same room with them.
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« Reply #37 on: December 31, 2004, 09:01:51 PM »

People don't die or even get damaged from occasionally coming into contact with smokers.
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« Reply #38 on: December 31, 2004, 09:11:20 PM »

People don't die or even get damaged from occasionally coming into contact with smokers.
And people don't die seeing or touching a gun either.
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« Reply #39 on: December 31, 2004, 09:13:35 PM »

People don't die or even get damaged from occasionally coming into contact with smokers.
And people don't die seeing or touching a gun either.

Yeah, they die when OTHER people shoot them
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« Reply #40 on: December 31, 2004, 09:17:02 PM »

People don't die or even get damaged from occasionally coming into contact with smokers.
And people don't die seeing or touching a gun either.

Yeah, they die when OTHER people shoot them
And people can die from second hand smoke, the smoke from other people's cigarettes.

This is going nowhere.  What is your point?
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« Reply #41 on: December 31, 2004, 09:17:49 PM »

People don't die or even get damaged from occasionally coming into contact with smokers.

The vast number of anti-smoking zealots would tell you otherwise.

Handguns have a very legitamite use - protecting yourself from burgalars who would be burgalars even without guns. I can also use a handgun to protect myself from muggers and the like, I don't think I'll be able to carry around a shotgun or rifle all the time for that purpose - reaction time and turning is somewhat decreased with long guns if I am not mistaken, and it'll be clear who should be mugged(the ones not carrying guns). With hanguns available, criminals know they take a risk when mugging people, so they would be less likely to do it when there are more people carrying.

Like it or not, crime will always exist. Get rid of handguns and criminals will use knives(or illegally obtained guns). Get rid of knives(yeah, right) and they'll use shanks(or illegally obtained guns and knives). Get my drift? The technology exists and is widely known, and criminals will be able to obtain it through various means. So, to equalize things, law abiding citizens must have this technology as well in order to adequately defend themselves. If I'm confronted by an armed criminal, my best way of ensuring survival is having the means by which I can kill him instead of him killing me - better that I, the honest citizen who doesn't go out of my way to hurt people, survive than the criminal, who even if he doesn't harm me will go on to rob and likely eventually kill someone else.
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« Reply #42 on: December 31, 2004, 09:21:02 PM »

People don't die or even get damaged from occasionally coming into contact with smokers.
And people don't die seeing or touching a gun either.

Yeah, they die when OTHER people shoot them
And people can die from second hand smoke, the smoke from other people's cigarettes.

This is going nowhere.  What is your point?
No they don't, there is no proof of that.

My point is that the only arguments you make are logical fallacies. I'm not talking to you anymore because you're an ass.
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« Reply #43 on: December 31, 2004, 09:23:26 PM »

People don't die or even get damaged from occasionally coming into contact with smokers.
And people don't die seeing or touching a gun either.

Yeah, they die when OTHER people shoot them
And people can die from second hand smoke, the smoke from other people's cigarettes.

This is going nowhere.  What is your point?
No they don't, there is no proof of that.
Are you trying to claim that you won't die from second hand smoke?  Do you think it is healthy for you?

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« Reply #44 on: December 31, 2004, 09:26:27 PM »

Just because your too stupid to hold a real conversation doesn't mean you've won anything
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« Reply #45 on: December 31, 2004, 09:29:17 PM »

Just because your too stupid to hold a real conversation doesn't mean you've won anything
Well, you keep losing arguments.  Don't think ducking out of an argument I presented counter to your babble is missed by me.
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« Reply #46 on: December 31, 2004, 09:31:54 PM »

Just because your too stupid to hold a real conversation doesn't mean you've won anything
Well, you keep losing arguments.  Don't think ducking out of an argument I presented counter to your babble is missed by me.

You just frustrate people into no longer dealing with you, that isn't winning an argument.
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« Reply #47 on: December 31, 2004, 09:36:11 PM »

Just because your too stupid to hold a real conversation doesn't mean you've won anything
Well, you keep losing arguments.  Don't think ducking out of an argument I presented counter to your babble is missed by me.

You just frustrate people into no longer dealing with you, that isn't winning an argument.
I frustrate people by being right and giving them no way of countering my arguments.  I one of four leaders of the debate team at university.
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« Reply #48 on: December 31, 2004, 09:37:00 PM »

They wouldn't let you on the debate team because you don't know how to debate.
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« Reply #49 on: December 31, 2004, 09:38:37 PM »

They wouldn't let you on the debate team because you don't know how to debate.
Go to bed.  The weed is making your head spin.
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