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Question: What tl would you like to see?
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Greater Tea Party wave leading to Ron Paul 2012		  
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Third Party in 1964 leads to Reagan/King v Carter/Ted Kennedy v Bush/Anderson		  
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US Parliament after Nixon's removal over Watergate		  
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« on: October 07, 2011, 04:13:57 PM »
In light of a deadlock in my earlier poll I decided to make a few tweaks. Enjoy
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« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2011, 04:16:58 PM »
Number 1 Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2011, 05:14:43 PM »
Option 1.
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« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2011, 05:56:52 PM »
What is your obsession with MLK being a Conservative? He would've been (and was?) a strong pro-social justice liberal IMO.
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« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2011, 05:59:24 PM »
Quote from: Cathcon on October 07, 2011, 05:56:52 PM
What is your obsession with MLK being a Conservative? He would've been (and was?) a strong pro-social justice liberal IMO.
Yes, he was quite the lefty. Policy wise, a President King would have resembled Jesse Jackson.

A much more interesting--and realistic--scenario would be a Reagan versus King race in 1980.
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« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2011, 06:00:45 PM »
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Quote from: Cathcon on October 07, 2011, 05:56:52 PM
What is your obsession with MLK being a Conservative? He would've been (and was?) a strong pro-social justice liberal IMO.
Yes, he was quite the lefty. Policy wise, a President King would have resembled Jesse Jackson.

A much more interesting--and realistic--scenario would be a Reagan versus King race in 1980.

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« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2011, 06:10:19 PM »
Quote from: Cathcon on October 07, 2011, 05:56:52 PM
What is your obsession with MLK being a Conservative? He would've been (and was?) a strong pro-social justice liberal IMO.

I agree he had the social justice thing going but MLK was a conservative on many things.
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« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2011, 06:10:48 PM »
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Quote from: Cathcon on October 07, 2011, 05:56:52 PM
What is your obsession with MLK being a Conservative? He would've been (and was?) a strong pro-social justice liberal IMO.

I agree he had the social justice thing going but MLK was a conservative on many things.
Name a few of those things.
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« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2011, 06:56:40 PM »
He'd be pro-life, pro-traditional marriage, noninterventionist foreign policy (which is the true center-right foreign policy).  His niece Alveda had said so on many occasions.
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« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2011, 07:07:22 PM »
Quote from: WeareAnonymous on October 07, 2011, 06:56:40 PM
He'd be pro-life, pro-traditional marriage, noninterventionist foreign policy (which is the true center-right foreign policy).  His niece Alveda had said so on many occasions.

Assuming this is true, that still doesn't count for the main unifying point of the GOP and the main unifying point of Conservatism, regardless of whether it is between Libertarians or socially conservative hawks: Economic and Fiscal Conservatism. I doubt King would be in favor of kicking poor African-Americans off their welfare. In fact, I remember an article where he believed an even better program would be warranted to help make up for the centuries of enslavement. Beliefs like that don't tend to sit well with the Centre-Right.
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« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2011, 07:09:36 PM »
« Edited: October 07, 2011, 07:11:47 PM by Senator Kalwejt »
Ah, King on the ticket headed by a dude who criticized the 1964 Civil Right Act for a number of occassions...

The point: How dumb can you get?
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« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2011, 07:25:14 PM »
« Edited: October 07, 2011, 07:33:54 PM by WeareAnonymous »
Quote from: Senator Kalwejt on October 07, 2011, 07:09:36 PM
Ah, King on the ticket headed by a dude who criticized the 1964 Civil Right Act for a number of occassions...

The point: How dumb can you get?

There are butterflies that you fail to understand that lead to Reagan/King. It's a couple things JFK does that lead to some interesting political alliances.
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« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2011, 08:08:50 PM »
Quote from: WeareAnonymous on October 07, 2011, 07:25:14 PM
Quote from: Senator Kalwejt on October 07, 2011, 07:09:36 PM
Ah, King on the ticket headed by a dude who criticized the 1964 Civil Right Act for a number of occassions...

The point: How dumb can you get?

There are butterflies that you fail to understand that lead to Reagan/King. It's a couple things JFK does that lead to some interesting political alliances.
There are certain things about history and politics that you fail to understand that would render your scenario impossible.
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« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2011, 08:29:06 PM »
Quote from: I'm a Martin Luther King Republican on October 07, 2011, 08:08:50 PM
Quote from: WeareAnonymous on October 07, 2011, 07:25:14 PM
Quote from: Senator Kalwejt on October 07, 2011, 07:09:36 PM
Ah, King on the ticket headed by a dude who criticized the 1964 Civil Right Act for a number of occassions...

The point: How dumb can you get?

There are butterflies that you fail to understand that lead to Reagan/King. It's a couple things JFK does that lead to some interesting political alliances.
There are certain things about history and politics that you fail to understand that would render your scenario impossible.

It's not only possible but quite plausible.
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« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2011, 08:38:34 PM »
How so? Please narrate & provide examples from
 stuff you read, etc.
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« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2011, 09:02:04 PM »
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A more realistic scenario may be one in which Ronald Reagan runs for President in '68, reaching across the aisle and picking Democratic New Hampshire Governor John King, a strong proponent of the Vietnam War.
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« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2011, 09:22:04 PM »
JCL is just getting high on his crack rocks, move along.  Wink
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« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2011, 07:42:13 AM »
I think JCL may be confusing MLK with Alan Keyes. For some people it's hard to make a distinction between two black people.
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« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2011, 01:54:02 PM »
Quote from: Senator Fuzzleton on October 07, 2011, 09:22:04 PM
JCL is just getting high on his crack rocks, move along.  Wink

I Don't smoke crack.
Quote from: Senator Kalwejt on October 08, 2011, 07:42:13 AM
I think JCL may be confusing MLK with Alan Keyes. For some people it's hard to make a distinction between two black people.

I know the difference betwixt the two and I'd support both of them.
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« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2011, 02:02:25 PM »
Quote from: WeareAnonymous on October 08, 2011, 01:54:02 PM
Quote from: Senator Fuzzleton on October 07, 2011, 09:22:04 PM
JCL is just getting high on his crack rocks, move along.  Wink

I Don't smoke crack.
Quote from: Senator Kalwejt on October 08, 2011, 07:42:13 AM
I think JCL may be confusing MLK with Alan Keyes. For some people it's hard to make a distinction between two black people.

I know the difference betwixt the two and I'd support both of them.

You REALLY know the difference "betwixt" the two? Congrats. You won a Nobel Prize in Logic!
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